KD in CA Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 cmon KD, your saying my kids are going to be drunken jerkoffs cause they go to pro football games? As mentioned, I have been going to games sinse 1969, and while certainly maybe the drunken part, jerkoff no way. Maybe I go to different games, or somehow have a blind eye...how in Gods green earth has this never been a problem for me in most likely over 100 pro football games attended in my life? BTW, while i think m kids are chuckleheads..think they can talk pretty intelligently about how being drunk makes you look stupid, how drunks do stupid things,how drinking too much makes you throw up, how driving drunk KILLS people, and how not having manners ( ie the swearing) makes people identify you as an uneducated buffon who can only use cuss words to make a point..but they are only words. Not saying ot wont happen, but I am pretty confident my kids will not grow up to be jerkoffs..or least it will not be the result of going to a Bills game LOL Fair enough....and you're right plenz. It has more to do with parenting than anything else. I was thinking more of the people who are dropping F-bombs at the game in front of their own kids as well as the idiots doing it in front of someone else's kids. Of course everyone gets a little fired up at times, but it's appalling that people are either too drunk and/or selfish to curb their behavior one iota when they are sitting right behind someone with women and kids (which sound like what JSP was describing). And as for the "kids hear worse on the bus" excuses -- well guess what, they are hearing it from OTHER KIDS on the bus, not from adults who are supposed to be setting an example for how to behave like a normal person.
Heels20X6 Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 Just my experience at the game, I was in section 242 and all the Bills fans (minus a few F bombs for the horrid play on the field) were pretty well-behaved. The worst of the bunch was this caucasian wanna-be gang banger, drunk out of his mind, who needed to remind everyone how much of a "sh!!-town" Buffalo was and how great his Jets were. This was around children. He left in the third quarter. Some guy from Ottawa may have dumped a full coke on him as he was exciting...could have been anyone. The two other worse people were this couple of COWBOY FANS who didn't even face the play, just spent the whole game drinking and trying to start things with fans. They were escorted out by security early in the 4th. I had a great time at the games, I'd bring my kids too. Why? Because as some posters have said, the camaderie you get with fellow Bills fans is amazing. I loved chatting football with Bills fans before, during, and after the game. Sure, there are some serious louts, but I find they are few and far between.
plenzmd1 Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 Fair enough....and you're right plenz. It has more to do with parenting than anything else. I was thinking more of the people who are dropping F-bombs at the game in front of their own kids as well as the idiots doing it in front of someone else's kids. Of course everyone gets a little fired up at times, but it's appalling that people are either too drunk and/or selfish to curb their behavior one iota when they are sitting right behind someone with women and kids (which sound like what JSP was describing). And as for the "kids hear worse on the bus" excuses -- well guess what, they are hearing it from OTHER KIDS on the bus, not from adults who are supposed to be setting an example for how to behave like a normal person. Agreed omn all points..and I have on more than one occasion asked people, some very drunk to tone it down ause of the kids, very politely of course..and 99.9% of people really do their best to to that. The occasional F bomb still comes out...but really never is intentional and the "dude I am sorry bout that" usually comes right after.
dpberr Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 I'm all for taking alcohol out of the stadiums and not allowing visibly drunk people into the stadium. Doing those two things solves 90% of the problems. I wish the NFL would try it for a year.
D'love Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 I'm all for taking alcohol out of the stadiums and not allowing visibly drunk people into the stadium. Doing those two things solves 90% of the problems. I wish the NFL would try it for a year. But. $$$$$$$$$$$$4
SouthernMan Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 I didn't read through the entire thread, so forgive me if it's been repeated, but I'm shocked at the number of posts by readers in this forum that more or less condone bad bahaviour, since after all, "it is a football game". When did discourteous and vulgar behaviour become acceptable in a public setting? I don't care if it's a football game or the local library. It's not o.k. or acceptable to act that way in gatherings of people that could be offended by the language or action. The families acting respectably should sacrifice their day at the ball park so that drunken idiots can blow off frustration in an unacceptable way? This is a sad statement of where America is as a culture if the majority actually agree that such behaviour is ok in the setting of a football stadium.
erynthered Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 I didn't read through the entire thread, so forgive me if it's been repeated, but I'm shocked at the number of posts by readers in this forum that more or less condone bad bahaviour, since after all, "it is a football game". When did discourteous and vulgar behaviour become acceptable in a public setting? I don't care if it's a football game or the local library. It's not o.k. or acceptable to act that way in gatherings of people that could be offended by the language or action. The families acting respectably should sacrifice their day at the ball park so that drunken idiots can blow off frustration in an unacceptable way? This is a sad statement of where America is as a culture if the majority actually agree that such behaviour is ok in the setting of a football stadium. ^ This ^
Peter Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 I pretty much agree. I didn't read through the entire thread, so forgive me if it's been repeated, but I'm shocked at the number of posts by readers in this forum that more or less condone bad bahaviour, since after all, "it is a football game". When did discourteous and vulgar behaviour become acceptable in a public setting? I don't care if it's a football game or the local library. It's not o.k. or acceptable to act that way in gatherings of people that could be offended by the language or action. The families acting respectably should sacrifice their day at the ball park so that drunken idiots can blow off frustration in an unacceptable way? This is a sad statement of where America is as a culture if the majority actually agree that such behaviour is ok in the setting of a football stadium.
D'love Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 I didn't read through the entire thread, so forgive me if it's been repeated, but I'm shocked at the number of posts by readers in this forum that more or less condone bad bahaviour, since after all, "it is a football game". When did discourteous and vulgar behaviour become acceptable in a public setting? I don't care if it's a football game or the local library. It's not o.k. or acceptable to act that way in gatherings of people that could be offended by the language or action. The families acting respectably should sacrifice their day at the ball park so that drunken idiots can blow off frustration in an unacceptable way? This is a sad statement of where America is as a culture if the majority actually agree that such behaviour is ok in the setting of a football stadium. ...are you one of those guys who asks people to sit down during a game?
theesir Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 ...are you one of those guys who asks people to sit down during a game? Are you one of those !@#$s that throws up on someone and then falls down the stairs and is proud of yourself when you're done?
JPS Posted November 8, 2011 Author Posted November 8, 2011 Wow, so much whining. The crowds haven't changed, football has always been like this. Bulls**t. Your "always" must be about 4 years. I love the comparison to a Phish concert. The drunken youts use it as an excuse to just get hammered these days. That was NEVER the case even 10 years ago. Did you have drunks. Yes. Bad lingo. Of course. But the number of "fans" aged 20-30 who are there just to drink is way higher than it used to be.
The Poojer Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 Hahahaha....great reply...this cracked me up for some reason!!! Thanks for the laugh! Couldn't tell you, but the old timers talk about it like it was at one point. I took their word for it.
John Adams Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 Bulls**t. Your "always" must be about 4 years. I love the comparison to a Phish concert. The drunken youts use it as an excuse to just get hammered these days. That was NEVER the case even 10 years ago. Did you have drunks. Yes. Bad lingo. Of course. But the number of "fans" aged 20-30 who are there just to drink is way higher than it used to be. Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha. I see better behavior these days at Bills games than in 1990. Concerts, about the same. Maybe the only significant difference is that drug use was higher in the 90s, and language is higher now. Either way, your 16 year old was fine.
Alphadawg7 Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 I didn't read through the entire thread, so forgive me if it's been repeated, but I'm shocked at the number of posts by readers in this forum that more or less condone bad bahaviour, since after all, "it is a football game". When did discourteous and vulgar behaviour become acceptable in a public setting? I don't care if it's a football game or the local library. It's not o.k. or acceptable to act that way in gatherings of people that could be offended by the language or action. The families acting respectably should sacrifice their day at the ball park so that drunken idiots can blow off frustration in an unacceptable way? This is a sad statement of where America is as a culture if the majority actually agree that such behaviour is ok in the setting of a football stadium. Not to condone bad behavior but to answer your question about when did it become OK to swear and use vulgarities at games in public...That's easy, it became OK when we formed this country on the principal of free speech. If you are going to go to a public event that is emotionally charged like a divisional rival game, then you are subjecting yourself to language and statements you may not approve of, but they have as much right to voice them as you do to voice your displeasure about them. Just my 2 cents.
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 My wife and I no longer make our annual trek north for a game. Last year after getting beer spilled on us by a guy that showed up drunk as a skunk, getting beer on us as a result of the fight between the drunk and his girl fiend and the number of drunken brawls we decided that going to a game was not as much fun anymore. I agree with others that if you are concerned about kids hearing f bombs and other profanity a football game or any other sporting event is probably not a good choice.
Jauronimo Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 I didn't read through the entire thread, so forgive me if it's been repeated, but I'm shocked at the number of posts by readers in this forum that more or less condone bad bahaviour, since after all, "it is a football game". That rationalization never gets old. At Lollapalooza 2008, about 30 mins before RATM took the stage I watched some drunk turn around, whip it out, and start pissing all over the backs of some dude and his girlfriend who were sitting in the grass waiting for the show to start. The urine soaked guy got to his feet and and yelled "dude, you're pissing on me!" to which the drunk replied "IT'S A F#$%ING CONCERT!" and went about his business.
HurlyBurly51 Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 I'm all for taking alcohol out of the stadiums and not allowing visibly drunk people into the stadium. Doing those two things solves 90% of the problems. I wish the NFL would try it for a year. It never ceases to amaze me how security allows falling down, blind drunks through the gate. I mean they need to be held up by their friends, but somehow still get though. Unbeleivable. That rationalization never gets old. At Lollapalooza 2008, about 30 mins before RATM took the stage I watched some drunk turn around, whip it out, and start pissing all over the backs of some dude and his girlfriend who were sitting in the grass waiting for the show to start. The urine soaked guy got to his feet and and yelled "dude, you're pissing on me!" to which the drunk replied "IT'S A F#$%ING CONCERT!" and went about his business. Uhhh, that drunk guy would've been in for a serious beatdown, and I doubt the cops or anyone else would see anything wrong with that.
Jauronimo Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 It never ceases to amaze me how security allows falling down, blind drunks through the gate. I mean they need to be held up by their friends, but somehow still get though. Unbeleivable. Uhhh, that drunk guy would've been in for a serious beatdown, and I doubt the cops or anyone else would see anything wrong with that. The 15 or so big ugly looking dudes with him indicated otherwise.
dave mcbride Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 Not to condone bad behavior but to answer your question about when did it become OK to swear and use vulgarities at games in public...That's easy, it became OK when we formed this country on the principal of free speech. If you are going to go to a public event that is emotionally charged like a divisional rival game, then you are subjecting yourself to language and statements you may not approve of, but they have as much right to voice them as you do to voice your displeasure about them. Just my 2 cents. Um, no they don't. It's a privately controlled space, not a public forum. The Bills can kick out anyone whose language they dislike, and they actually do it frequently.
D'love Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 Are you one of those !@#$s that throws up on someone and then falls down the stairs and is proud of yourself when you're done? Nope, I don't drink in the stadium and never go into the game with more than a strong buzz, thanks.
Recommended Posts