buffalo1983 Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 (edited) rest of season (Achilles tendon) Update: Has been placed on IR Edited November 8, 2011 by buffalo1983
Dr. Trooth Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 It ain't a matter of "if", it's "when" the Bills place Kyle on IR, what is their short term plan and longer term plan? Do they bring in a player thatcan play and contrigute right now, or do they just fill a roster spot? What I think we know... 1) Kyle cannot be an everydown NT in the NFL, assuming he can return to form next season. Bills are paying big money for him, so he has to play somewhere, DE? 2) Torrell Troup sucks. When you are drafted in the second round and you ain't contributing significantly, it's time to cut your losses. 3) George Edwards is clueless. He doesn't know WTF defesnse to play... 3-4, 4-3, or 5-2 (what they played against the Skins a week ago). Two years into a supposed transition to the 3-4 and they still don't have a legitimate NT or outside LB. "Lights Out" is done and he ain't comin back. What I think will happen... 1) short term, Bills seem to be thin at OLB. Batten is the only legitimate OLB, although Moats has done time there with so-so results. Kelsay ain't an OLB he's a 4-3 DE and when he has to drop back in coverage it's a disaster. So, my guess an OLB will be added when Kyle goes on IR and be evaluated over the latter part of the season. 2) Best case scenario, the Bills go 4-4 down the stretch and miss the playoffs. 3) George Edwards gets canned at the end of the season and Wanny takes over as the DC. I'm more than OK with canning Edwards... he never should have been hired for the DC position. But, Wanny being promoted means you're looking at going back to the 4-3... tha's all Wanny knows....plus I've never been a fan of Wanny... I don't think he's all he's been made out to be. But, when Edwards gets canned, I don't see the Bills considering anyone but Wanny because I believer the hired him as Asst Head coach and brought him in here specifically because they knew Edwards was way in over his head. 4) With Wanny at the helm as DC, if Kyle comes back next year fully recovered, you'll probably see Darius & Kyle inside, Kelsay at one DE spot and the other either through the draft of free agency... someone with pass rushing skills in the 260 lb. range. You'll probably continue to see Barnett in the middle backed up by Sheppard. The two outside LBs will likely be aquired via free agency and the draft. Basically a continual rebuild The most disappointing thing is, over the past 4-5 years of the Bills consistently ranked in the bottom third on defense (offense too until this season) you'd have thought they would have addressed that by now. But, drafting schmucks like Whitner at #8, then going out on a limb for McCargo, then McKelvin at #11, Troup in the 2nd round, wasting a #13 on Maybin, a #9 on Spliller, and then only one of your draft picks this year is making a significant contribution gives any fan pause that the Bills FO are serious about fielding a competitive team.... just gimmick after gimmick (T.O., Merriman, Spiller to sell a freakin ticket. Personally, I'd like to see both Wanny and Edwards gone and once and for all make the complete swith to the 3-4. Bring in a real 3-4 DC (Man Gina's still out there) and a real NT and a couple of 3-4 OLBs.
buffalo1983 Posted November 8, 2011 Author Posted November 8, 2011 Answer: http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/138163-williams-expected-to-miss/
joejoebills Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 It ain't a matter of "if", it's "when" the Bills place Kyle on IR, what is their short term plan and longer term plan? Do they bring in a player thatcan play and contrigute right now, or do they just fill a roster spot? What I think we know... 1) Kyle cannot be an everydown NT in the NFL, assuming he can return to form next season. Bills are paying big money for him, so he has to play somewhere, DE? 2) Torrell Troup sucks. When you are drafted in the second round and you ain't contributing significantly, it's time to cut your losses. 3) George Edwards is clueless. He doesn't know WTF defesnse to play... 3-4, 4-3, or 5-2 (what they played against the Skins a week ago). Two years into a supposed transition to the 3-4 and they still don't have a legitimate NT or outside LB. "Lights Out" is done and he ain't comin back. What I think will happen... 1) short term, Bills seem to be thin at OLB. Batten is the only legitimate OLB, although Moats has done time there with so-so results. Kelsay ain't an OLB he's a 4-3 DE and when he has to drop back in coverage it's a disaster. So, my guess an OLB will be added when Kyle goes on IR and be evaluated over the latter part of the season. 2) Best case scenario, the Bills go 4-4 down the stretch and miss the playoffs. 3) George Edwards gets canned at the end of the season and Wanny takes over as the DC. I'm more than OK with canning Edwards... he never should have been hired for the DC position. But, Wanny being promoted means you're looking at going back to the 4-3... tha's all Wanny knows....plus I've never been a fan of Wanny... I don't think he's all he's been made out to be. But, when Edwards gets canned, I don't see the Bills considering anyone but Wanny because I believer the hired him as Asst Head coach and brought him in here specifically because they knew Edwards was way in over his head. 4) With Wanny at the helm as DC, if Kyle comes back next year fully recovered, you'll probably see Darius & Kyle inside, Kelsay at one DE spot and the other either through the draft of free agency... someone with pass rushing skills in the 260 lb. range. You'll probably continue to see Barnett in the middle backed up by Sheppard. The two outside LBs will likely be aquired via free agency and the draft. Basically a continual rebuild The most disappointing thing is, over the past 4-5 years of the Bills consistently ranked in the bottom third on defense (offense too until this season) you'd have thought they would have addressed that by now. But, drafting schmucks like Whitner at #8, then going out on a limb for McCargo, then McKelvin at #11, Troup in the 2nd round, wasting a #13 on Maybin, a #9 on Spliller, and then only one of your draft picks this year is making a significant contribution gives any fan pause that the Bills FO are serious about fielding a competitive team.... just gimmick after gimmick (T.O., Merriman, Spiller to sell a freakin ticket. Personally, I'd like to see both Wanny and Edwards gone and once and for all make the complete swith to the 3-4. Bring in a real 3-4 DC (Man Gina's still out there) and a real NT and a couple of 3-4 OLBs. Take a deep breath idiot...
buffalo1983 Posted November 8, 2011 Author Posted November 8, 2011 (edited) Source? Hello! HI! Edited November 8, 2011 by buffalo1983
truth on hold Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 Doesn't change a thing. He's missed several games and when he was in wasnt a factor anyway. If he came back this year it wouldnt have been to 2010 form.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 Source? I agree - source? Just listened to Chan's presser and he said Williams was out for next Sunday, was traveling Tues/Weds for a 2nd opinion in NC But nothing definite or specific.
CardinalScotts Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 I would go sign Pat Williams for 7 games
buffalo1983 Posted November 8, 2011 Author Posted November 8, 2011 (edited) I agree - source? Just listened to Chan's presser and he said Williams was out for next Sunday, was traveling Tues/Weds for a 2nd opinion in NC But nothing definite or specific. From a source i know close with the Bills. We will see how good this source is... Stay tuned Edited November 8, 2011 by buffalo1983
r00tabaga Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 He is not on IR. I have not rec'd any texts from the Bills like I have Shawne Merriman or others. Waste of time here.
artmalibu Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 http://www.buffalobills.com/news/article-1/DT-Williams-to-see-foot-specialist/926d937f-7668-4ea5-b924-abccaff26786 If he is seeing the specialist later this week, I bet he will be out a couple of months. The IR list has begun!!
buffalo1983 Posted November 8, 2011 Author Posted November 8, 2011 http://www.buffalobills.com/news/article-1/DT-Williams-to-see-foot-specialist/926d937f-7668-4ea5-b924-abccaff26786 If he is seeing the specialist later this week, I bet he will be out a couple of months. The IR list has begun!! Agree, we cant catch a break!
Poeticlaw Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 I agree - source? Just listened to Chan's presser and he said Williams was out for next Sunday, was traveling Tues/Weds for a 2nd opinion in NC But nothing definite or specific. http://blogs.buffalonews.com/billboard/2011/11/williams-expected-to-miss-rest-of-season-lindell-out-4-6-weeks.html
Dr. Fong Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 I really have never seen another team that is so snake bit with injuries as this team has been for the past few years.
Dirtbag Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 I really have never seen another team that is so snake bit with injuries as this team has been for the past few years. last year's green bay team had it pretty bad.
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