Romeo Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 It's funny how "NoJustice" just fires back at you all and you act as if he started the fight LOL Really you're taking a real GWB approach to debate aren't ya? The Title is meant to be offensive, everyone has commented with every intention to be offensive and now because he defends himself you're ready to call him out? It's obvious most of you are doing this because you're bored, there isn't an adult thought running through your heads as you attack, make sport and attempt to belittle. Facts are facts, once upon a time Christians were quite hardcore and while they were they maintained a moral structure that is absent in it's morphed form now. Muslims saw the ways of Christianity, they saw how it became corrupted and turned into something it never was meant to be. Because of this example Muslims refuse to allow themselves to be cornered into changing for profit and for this you hate them. Are there people who call themselves Muslims that have done horrible things in the name of God? Yes. This is true of many people's though, often crimes are carried out by people who attend Church/Temple/Prayer frequently. It's the shadow of good they used to cloak their evil and because of their ways they will be punished by God. But to generalize or lump an entire religion into a category of evil based upon acts carried out by sinister people who cloak themselves in it is just ignorant. But since that is your aim, mission accomplished. Sound familiar? Lighten up, Francis! Nice "Stripes" quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 How much can a man take before he hits back? A peace loving person with any backbone can take it forever. Which are you lacking? Are there people who call themselves Muslims that have done horrible things in the name of God? Yes. This is true of many people's though, often crimes are carried out by people who attend Church/Temple/Prayer frequently. It's the shadow of good they used to cloak their evil and because of their ways they will be punished by God. But to generalize or lump an entire religion into a category of evil based upon acts carried out by sinister people who cloak themselves in it is just ignorant. But since that is your aim, mission accomplished. Sound familiar? Not often do you hear someone "hiding behind the cloak of good" shouting "In the name of Jesus Christ!" as they commit their evil though but you often hear Allah Akbar. Why is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 A peace loving person with any backbone can take it forever. Which are you lacking? Not often do you hear someone "hiding behind the cloak of good" shouting "In the name of Jesus Christ!" as they commit their evil though but you often hear Allah Akbar. Why is that? So American and British troops singing "Onward Christian Soldier" before they slaughtered the citizens of Dresden, Germany was...what? The Ku Klux Klan saying, "In the name of Jesus Christ" before each hanging...Um, how about American troops murdering citizens in Iraq as they represent the "Cross"... Yea dude your post has so many holes in it that it's just laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 A peace loving person with any backbone can take it forever. Which are you lacking? Not often do you hear someone "hiding behind the cloak of good" shouting "In the name of Jesus Christ!" as they commit their evil though but you often hear Allah Akbar. Why is that? This is exactly what I'm talking about, right there. You think just because some ass clowns shout out "Allah U Akbar" before they commit some heinous crime that should reflect upon the religion, itself? That Islam is somehow responsible for their actions? That's wrong. Those guys don't represent Islam. Why don't you take a look at the moderate Muslim American families right here in our own backyard as examples of how to be a Muslim? Why no mention of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 According to NAF, since 1977 in the United States and Canada, property crimes committed against abortion providers have included 41 bombings, 173 arsons, 91 attempted bombings or arsons, 619 bomb threats, 1630 incidents of trespassing, 1264 incidents of vandalism, and 100 attacks with butyric acid ("stink bombs"). The first clinic arson occurred in Oregon in March 1976 and the first bombing occurred in February 1978 in Ohio. More recent incidents have included: * October 1999: Martin Uphoff set fire to a Planned Parenthood clinic in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, causing US$100 worth of damage. He was later sentenced to 60 months in prison. * May 28, 2000: An arson at a clinic in Concord, New Hampshire on resulted in damage estimated at US$20,000. * October 1, 2000: A Catholic priest drove his car into the Northern Illinois Health Clinic after learning that the FDA had approved the drug RU-486. He pulled out an ax before being shot at by a security guard. * June 11, 2001: A bombing at a clinic in Tacoma, Washington on destroyed a wall, resulting in US$6000 in damages * July 4, 2005: A clinic Palm Beach, Florida was the target of an arson. * December 12, 2005: Patricia Hughes and Jeremy Dunahoe threw a Molotov cocktail at a clinic in Shreveport, Louisiana. The device missed the building and no damage was caused. In August 2006, Hughes was sentenced to six years in prison, and Dunahoe to one year. * September 13, 2006 David McMenemy of Rochester Hills, Michigan crashed his car into the Edgerton Women's Care Center in Davenport, Iowa. He then doused the lobby in gasoline and then started a fire. McMenemy committed these acts in the belief that the center was performing abortions, however Edgerton is not an abortion clinc. * April 25, 2007: A package left at a women's health clinic in Austin, Texas contained an explosive device capable of inflicting serious injury or death. A bomb squad detonated the device. * May 9, 2007: An unidentified person deliberately set fire to a Planned Parenthood clinic in Virginia Beach, Virginia. * December 6, 2007: Two unidentified persons set fire to a Planned Parenthood clinic in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Some of the most ignorant things are done in the name of religion. It's not exclusive to Christianity or Islam. Since the beginning of time people have misinterpreted religion purposely to further an agenda or gain control of an uneducated mass. So to lump terrorists with Muslims is !@#$ing retarded. If you want to continue that crap then go ahead, you're retards. !@#$ off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 (edited) A peace loving person with any backbone can take it forever. Which are you lacking? Not often do you hear someone "hiding behind the cloak of good" shouting "In the name of Jesus Christ!" as they commit their evil though but you often hear Allah Akbar. Why is that? I'm not blaming Christianity here, but did you ever hear about the 900,000 people slaughtered in Rwanda in 1994 in a population that was over 90% Christian? Or what about, the genocide of over 300,000 Muslims and systematic rape of over 100,000 Muslim women by Christian Serbs? Edited November 3, 2011 by NoJustice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Atrocities are carried out by the mad and misguided. Islam and Christianity are not the problems. Remind yourself of that when you want to verbally abuse another person's faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 (edited) I'm not blaming Christianity here, but did you ever hear about the 900,000 people slaughtered in Rwanda in 1994 in a population that was over 90% Christian? Or what about, the genocide of over 300,000 Muslims and systematic rape of over 100,000 Muslim women by Christian Serbs? And who was it that halted those attrocities? I don't recall the Arab League leading the charge there. EDIT: Above reply should not be construed to be notwithstanding your exaggeration of quantities of dead & raped. Edited November 4, 2011 by Taro T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Central Intelligence Agency officials estimate the number of dead at 837,000-838,000. So the number NoJustice listed earlier is hardly exaggerated. And the how are you trying to portray the USA's involvement as favorable? They dragged their feet and let nearly a million people die. The Bosniak ethnic group suffered nearly 80,000 casualties. Reports of rape reached at high as 128,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Central Intelligence Agency officials estimate the number of dead at 837,000-838,000. So the number NoJustice listed earlier is hardly exaggerated. And the how are you trying to portray the USA's involvement as favorable? They dragged their feet and let nearly a million people die. You're still here? I thought you gave up on this thread. And I'm the one that needs a life. CIA estimates are actually about 150k. Nobody on the planet has ever generated an estimate of more than 300k, except you with your "pull a number out of your ass" methodology, you !@#$ing numbskull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 I never 300,000 I said 128,000 was the Bosnian estimate and the Rwanada estimate was 837-838,000 Both of which are FACTS. Unlike you Tom I pick one topic that is PERSONAL and defend my position. You on the other hand troll dozens of threads to throw fiction out as fact. You're a moron. You've proved it yet again. Congrats! The Bosniak estimate reflects the estimated cases of rape. The Rwanadan estimate reflects murders. Yet again, both are facts. As for Bosniaks, about 8,000 were confirmed to have murdered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 (edited) You're still here? I thought you gave up on this thread. And I'm the one that needs a life. CIA estimates are actually about 150k. Nobody on the planet has ever generated an estimate of more than 300k, except you with your "pull a number out of your ass" methodology, you !@#$ing numbskull. Casualties Calculating the number of deaths that resulted from the conflict has been subject to considerable and highly politicised debate. There are large discrepancies between estimates of the total number of casualties, ranging from 25,000 to 329,000. These are partly the result of the use of inconsistent definitions of who can be considered victims of the war. Some research calculated only direct casualties of the military activity while other also calculated indirect casualties, such as those who died from harsh living conditions, hunger, cold, illnesses or other accidents indirectly caused by the war conditions. Original higher numbers were also used as many victims were listed twice or three times both in civilian and military columns as little or no communication and systematic coordination of these lists could take place in wartime conditions; one valid form of historical revision involves identifying where a given victim is separately identified in multiple primary lists, and correcting the resulting overcount; in particular, the RDC and ICTY's demographic unit performed such forensic revision. The death toll was originally estimated in 1994 at around 200,000 by Cherif Bassouni, head of the UN expert commission investigating war crimes.According to Prof. Steven L. Burg and Prof. Paul S. Shoup (1999) Either way, that's a rather large death toll. Edited November 4, 2011 by NoJustice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 DC Tom is likely to respond with, "Unless it's 6,000,000 it doesn't count". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 DC Tom is likely to respond with, "Unless it's 6,000,000 it doesn't count". For real. Come to think of it, far more Muslims died at the hands of Christians than the other way around. Hell, it ain't even close. Between the crusades, both Iraq wars, the war in Afghanistan and Bosnia, it's a blowout! And they call themselves the victims? Come on, man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Of course the scariest people remain old white men My link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 You want a few groups besides Muslims or Jihadists to worry about? Republicans. Democrats. Bankers. Reality TV Executive Producers. Just naming a few... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 (edited) You want a few groups besides Muslims or Jihadists to worry about? Republicans. Democrats. Bankers. Reality TV Executive Producers. Just naming a few... Yes, all those crazy bankers strapping bomb to themselves and starting another infitada You fake profiles could be rather entertaining. Edited November 4, 2011 by meazza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Seriously you're defending bankers? LOL Wow apparently you weren't effected by the de-regulated market? You must've voted Bush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Yes, all those crazy bankers strapping bomb to themselves and starting another infitada You fake profiles could be rather entertaining. Who was it that created the mother of all bombs and not to mention nukes, again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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