/dev/null Posted November 1, 2011 Author Share Posted November 1, 2011 Dave's funnier. Dave's not here man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Dave's not here man !@#$off Hal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 how has the EU worked for them? Kept them on life support longer than usual. Without EU, Greece would have defaulted years ago, the drachma would have been devalued by 50%, the country would ink into a depression, and the only hope it would have is that tourists would come in droves to take advantage of low prices, only to be met with surly service and strikes, thus keeping tourists at bay. At the end of which, Greece would need to Germany & France go with cup & hat in hand begging for money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Kept them on life support longer than usual. Without EU, Greece would have defaulted years ago, the drachma would have been devalued by 50%, the country would ink into a depression, and the only hope it would have is that tourists would come in droves to take advantage of low prices, only to be met with surly service and strikes, thus keeping tourists at bay. At the end of which, Greece would need to Germany & France go with cup & hat in hand begging for money. Pete, please explain to us how Greece is innocent in this regard, and it's the financial industry's fault. Just 'cause I need a good laugh today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Pete, please explain to us how Greece is innocent in this regard, and it's the financial industry's fault. Just 'cause I need a good laugh today. Me too. crickets................................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Pete, please explain to us how Greece is innocent in this regard, and it's the financial industry's fault. Just 'cause I need a good laugh today. Oh Please! Like Pete is capable of giving a rational answer. It's about as pointless of a question as the one I posed to Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Oh Please! Like Pete is capable of giving a rational answer. It's about as pointless of a question as the one I posed to Dave. Hey, I only asked for a good laugh. I was aiming for irrational. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Pete, please explain to us how Greece is innocent in this regard, and it's the financial industry's fault. It's democracy man! Power to the (stupid) people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 It's democracy man! Power to the (stupid) people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicot Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 How can you use the word "sovereignty" in the same sentence, or book for that matter, as Greece? Sovereignty implies the ability to make decisions for yourself. It also implies that you are actually a real country. It also implies that other countries respect you enough to recognize your right to sovereign determination. Greece can't make decisions for itself. They have been trying to make socialism work, and now, they apparently are run by mobs of blatant idiots. How's that sovereignty? Greece isn't a real country. How many Greeks would be willing to fight for Greece? How many would protest the war, and protest being asked to fight, instead? How many are willing to accept less handouts to help their country? How many actually care about solving their country's problems, both short and long term, more than they care about their handouts? What about these people makes them a "country" and not merely a collection of lazy azzholes that just happen to live near each other? Greece is what happens when the far left is allowed to be in charge = your country ceases to exist in any way that matters. Greece's sovereignty is a joke to everyone. If it wasn't, then why the deal they got? If your sovereignty isn't recognized or respected by anyone, it doesn't exist. Sovereignty? Shirly, you can't be serious. And finally, the EU, and all its FAIL, is also what happens when you allow the far-left to be in charge. The only reason Greece hasn't been tossed out years ago? The far-left politicians in France and Germany don't want to admit their massive mistakes. They want to blame everybody else for their FAIL, as per the far-left methodology. Who are these far-left politicians in France and Germany that you're babbling on about? If you think Sarkozy and Merkel are "far-left" then I want some of what you're smoking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 (edited) Who are these far-left politicians in France and Germany that you're babbling on about? If you think Sarkozy and Merkel are "far-left" then I want some of what you're smoking. Sarkozy and Merkel are trying, and will fail, to hold together the mess that the far-left created, because, now, they are up to their asses in it. Now, the best thing for France and Germany is to try to make this work . They didn't invent this mess. They inherited it. Hey, the Obama excuse is good for the goose, right? I am merely saying that this situation should never have happened. Single currency, or more accurately, single world currency, as well as one-world government, has been the goal of the far-left everywhere for a very long time. They want it...because it's "fair". The fact that it's ridiculous, example Greece, is beyond them. Are you telling me these simple facts are beyond you as well? Isn't this your country we are talking about? Edited November 2, 2011 by OCinBuffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicot Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Sarkozy and Merkel are trying, and will fail, to hold together the mess that the far-left created, because, now, they are up to their asses in it. Now, the best thing for France and Germany is to try to make this work . They didn't invent this mess. They inherited it. Hey, the Obama excuse is good for the goose, right? I am merely saying that this situation should never have happened. Single currency, or more accurately, single world currency, as well as one-world government, has been the goal of the far-left everywhere for a very long time. They want it...because it's "fair". The fact that it's ridiculous, example Greece, is beyond them. Are you telling me these simple facts are beyond you as well? Isn't this your country we are talking about? Which is my country? Greece? France? Which country do you think I'm from today? Care to be a bit more specific about these far-left rascals that got us into this fine mess? Maybe a name or a political party or anything at all? Or are you somehow implying that these fiendishly clever far-left individuals somehow put the idea into the heads of all the mainstream politicians that have been running Europe for the past few decades? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Which is my country? Greece? France? Which country do you think I'm from today? Care to be a bit more specific about these far-left rascals that got us into this fine mess? Maybe a name or a political party or anything at all? Or are you somehow implying that these fiendishly clever far-left individuals somehow put the idea into the heads of all the mainstream politicians that have been running Europe for the past few decades? France. We know you're from France. Well, let's see, since your "mainstream" has been our "far-left" from 1990 to 2010, I'd say I have it right on target. Now, some of your "mainstream" have realized that "social justice" gets you: 1. In massive debt 2. An entire generation of people who don't want to work at anything more that what we would call a part time job, and expect free everything 3. Whole cities of self-segregated Muslims who have 0 interest in being actual citizens of your countries. some of your "mainstream" have begun to see just how stupid they have been. Some. It remains to be seen if they will pull a Guallist "we don't suck, we didn't lose WW2, we are actually awesome, because we won WW2" rewrite of history and double down on their failures. However, I think they have come to their senses. Are you trying to tell me that I'm supposed to know/care about which specific political party is to blame for this mess? What on earth makes you think I do? Your people bought the lies they were told by the left, and the right either wasn't big enough or not convincing enough to stop them. Now you are F'ed. And we are all now trying to do whatever we can to make sure Greece doesn't drag you down, and then you don't drag us down with you. But don't feel bad, we bought the same lies only 3 short years ago. It happens. Usually when the financial sector does something stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_In_Norfolk Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Greece is really a case study for our Americans Conservatives love of states rights. Thank God--or really big government Liberals--for not having a decentralized confederation where South Carolina or some other state drag us all down. Centralization is simply good for the economy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Greece is really a case study for our Americans Conservatives love of states rights. Thank God--or really big government Liberals--for not having a decentralized confederation where South Carolina or some other state drag us all down. Centralization is simply good for the economy Economics is the one place where states rights still exist, to a degree, you nitwit. That's why low tax states like Texas and Florida have recovered from the recession, and high tax states like New York and California are still sucking. That's why so many people have left New York If everything was the same everywhere, you'd still be living here, and not in Norfolk, moron. The economy is the least centralized thing about this country...never mind the fact that true centralization for a country this large is practically impossible. Dave once again proving his unmitigated moron status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Greece is really a case study for our Americans Conservatives love of states rights. Thank God--or really big government Liberals--for not having a decentralized confederation where South Carolina or some other state drag us all down. Centralization is simply good for the economy Ok, you're not even trying to make sense anymore. You clearly understand that your mere existence is enough to agitate many on this board and are now just making ignorant and inflammatory remarks just to stir it up. Stop phoning it in Dave. If I'm mistaken, then please attempt to explain your previous comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Greece is really a case study for our Americans Conservatives love of states rights. Thank God--or really big government Liberals--for not having a decentralized confederation where South Carolina or some other state drag us all down. Centralization is simply good for the economy I really think they should take away your right to vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_In_Norfolk Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Ok, you're not even trying to make sense anymore. You clearly understand that your mere existence is enough to agitate many on this board and are now just making ignorant and inflammatory remarks just to stir it up. Stop phoning it in Dave. If I'm mistaken, then please attempt to explain your previous comment. You seriously can't understand how our stronger centralized system is superior to the European decentralized system? You obviously do not know anything about doing business in Europe, and it's not my job to educate your totally ignorant arse. I really think they should take away your right to vote. I think if you tried to take anything from me you would end up swallowing a pound of my poop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 I think if you tried to take anything from me you would end up swallowing a pound of my poop Sorry not into those kind of fetishes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Economics is the one place where states rights still exist, to a degree, you nitwit. That's why low tax states like Texas and Florida have recovered from the recession, and high tax states like New York and California are still sucking. That's why so many people have left New York If everything was the same everywhere, you'd still be living here, and not in Norfolk, moron. The economy is the least centralized thing about this country...never mind the fact that true centralization for a country this large is practically impossible. Dave once again proving his unmitigated moron status. Florida? Saying Florida's recovered from the recession is like saying Bishop Hedd has recovered from his Sarah Palin obsession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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