truth on hold Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 (edited) Here's the play ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRWN4l5YLQk ... which would have 99.9999% of the people on this board singing Nix praises if Merriman made it. But since it's Maybin, unless he lines up over center, destroys him and pushes him into the QB's lap, throws a guard out of the way with a powerful swim move, then does a balletic spin move to get by the running back, sacking the QB in under 1.5 seconds, many on this board won't consider it a "quality" sack. Edited October 24, 2011 by Joe_the_6_pack
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 Unless he lines up over center, pushes him into the QB's lap, throws a guard out of the way, hurdles a running back and sacks the QB all in under 2 seconds, many on this board won't consider it a "quality" sack. Your hypothetical is incomplete; for example, how was the coverage downfield?
buffalover4life Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 The jets have different system and Rex Ryan is a defensive mastermind. he he knows how to use speed to rush the QB and get favorable match ups, he even puts Mcknight out there to go after the QB.
Thisistheyear Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 It could simply be that Maybin was a lazy POS when he was here and only started working when he got cut. Gailey has said that he had trouble figuring out how to motivate Maybin. One could assume he was threatened with being cut several times. Sometimes threatening doesn't get through. Some people need to be fired before they understand that 75% effort isn't enough.
Geno Smith's Arm Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 (edited) MONEY. He was making ridiculous money in Buffalo and not doing anything. Bad for the lockeroom, BADBADBAD. The Jets pay him league minimum. He is a very limited player. Sacks aren't everything. Maybe some of you would prefer the Bills find some track star to play rush linebacker, so they can get a few sacks. That would be awesome. Of course the guy would be useless for every other situation, and leave the defense vulnerable. It will indeed suck if Maybin ends up being another in a long list of Bills that got run out of town that ended up contributing or starting on teams for other winning organizations. Is there really a long list of these kinds of players? More than most other teams? Edited October 24, 2011 by Matthews' Bag
1B4IDie Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 (edited) Here's the play ... youtube.com/watch?v=QRWN4l5YLQk ... which would have 99.9999% of the people on this board singing Nix praises if Merriman made it. But since it's Maybin, unless he lines up over center, destroys him and pushes him into the QB's lap, throws a guard out of the way with a powerful swim move, then does a balletic spin move to get by the running back, sacking the QB in under 1.5 seconds, many on this board won't consider it a "quality" sack. You might want to count again. Especially if you start it from the beginning of the play. Edited October 24, 2011 by Why So Serious?
truth on hold Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 Why? I made no claim about the length of that play
truth on hold Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 Should edge speed rushers get regularly pancaked by RB's or tackles? Better dump merriman too then huh?
Geno Smith's Arm Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 (edited) Maybin with big 3rd down sack against Chargers. He lined up against Ryan Matthews and easily got around him. Beating Matthews isn't that impressive, but the Jets do a great job of putting him on the field in situations where he won't be trying to get around an OT. Very, very fair to ask why the Bills failed so badly at putting him on the field in situations where his weaknesses would be masked and his strengths be maximized. Sorry, this really pisses me off. Look forward to the defense of our geniuses upstairs (Gailey and Nix). Because they were paying him a load of money and he hadn't done ****! The Jets pay him the league minimum. The Bills have guys like Fred Jackson, Steve Johnson, and Ryan Fitzpatrick TEARING UP THE LEAGUE, all the while being WAY UNDERPAID! Maybin was a JOKE on this team! A guy like that breeds resentment among the underpaid veterans. Additionally, HE SUCKS! He is less than a one-trick pony, he is a half-trick pony! What else do you need to know? Do you have any more questions? I am answering for Nix and Gailey because they have more important things to take care of than stupid questions like this one. Edited October 24, 2011 by Matthews' Bag
bmur66 Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 That clip doesn't show him getting knocked down by the rb. It does show how he can get back up faster than anyone I have ever seen.
eball Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 It was a nice play, too. Beat the RB blocking him and exploded into Rivers. This is becoming a disaster. Excuse me? The RB (Matthews) definitely slowed him down, and it was a coverage sack. Rivers held the ball too long. Maybin is and always will be a one-trick pony. Wait until he tries to get around Freddy in two weeks. It will be like Sunday morning at IHOP.
Bob in STL Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 You can't make sacks sitting on the bench. Apparently he's something of a gamer. I still think he was on something because he showed up at the combine 25 lbs heavier than his playing weight in college. After the draft he shows up in Buffalo back down to his college playing weight. This might have destroyed any trust that Ralph Wilson had in him with this organization. It will indeed suck if Maybin ends up being another in a long list of Bills that got run out of town that ended up contributing or starting on teams for other winning organizations. What does Ralph Wilson have to do with Maybin's playing wieght? Maybin was not run out of town. He was beat out on a team that boasts such star LB's as Moats, Batten, Carrington and Kelsey (sarcasm intended BTW). Maybin could not beat out any of these guys for playing time. He is fortunate to land a spot on the jets, where he was once cut, and can fill a role for them.
GaryPinC Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 What does Ralph Wilson have to do with Maybin's playing wieght? Maybin was not run out of town. He was beat out on a team that boasts such star LB's as Moats, Batten, Carrington and Kelsey (sarcasm intended BTW). Maybin could not beat out any of these guys for playing time. He is fortunate to land a spot on the jets, where he was once cut, and can fill a role for them. Excellent post and I think the fact the jets also cut him previously seems lost on the folks who are hinting/saying that we made a mistake cutting him. Jets limited his role and perhaps Maybin finally realized his NFL career was non-existent and that he needed to make some changes in his approach to the game. He definitely looks much more tenacious and "hungry" out there right now. I don't think he'll ever be more than a situational pass rusher but good for him trying to make something out of himself.
cvanvol Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 Excuse me? The RB (Matthews) definitely slowed him down, and it was a coverage sack. Rivers held the ball too long. Maybin is and always will be a one-trick pony. Wait until he tries to get around Freddy in two weeks. It will be like Sunday morning at IHOP. hahaha IHOP joke... he still beat him pretty handily and while it may have been a coverage sack he was still there to make the play
todd Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 You saw his sack, right? He was unblocked. That's how much respect he gets - nobody tries to block him. We get rid of this guy 3 weeks ago and now he has 3 sacks! WTF
Dont Stop BILL-ievin' Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 Bottom line...he was way to expensive to carry on the roster, for just being a player to have on passing downs.
EldaBillsFan Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 I LOVE TO SAY!!!!...I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!! When you have Speed Rushers you have to be CREATIVE!!!!! Our Defense lacks all imagination... the kid is gonna average 10-12 sacks barring injuries for the rest of his career, and we let him go...
billsfreak Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 We get rid of this guy 3 weeks ago and now he has 3 sacks! WTF Isn't that more than our entire team? Maybe a Lamonica situation again?
CodeMonkey Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 So what are we arguing about here? That we should have kept Maybin? PTR I think more like the Bills coaches suck for not getting Maybin to play that well for them maybe?
nucci Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 (edited) Isn't that more than our entire team? Maybe a Lamonica situation again? Really? You have got to be kidding? Edited October 24, 2011 by nucci
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