Simon Posted October 16, 2011 Author Posted October 16, 2011 Did you expect gailey to go jauron-esque and run the ball to the left hash for three straight plays and settle for a 46 yard field goal with 3:00 mins to play. You may have missed this part: "I'm not demanding he throw Fred and Corey into the middle of the pile"
cantankerous Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 There's no way we could run the clock out in that scenario either. Gailey knew that play would be open. (It was). Also, with a suspect defense, it's obviously better to go up 7 than 3. There is no way Gailey could anticipate Fitz throwing a similarly horrible pass to what he did earlier. I can't fault the play call in that instance. I absolutely fault Fitzpatrick because, as a supposed second coach out there on the field, he should make a concerted effort that if he were to make a mistake on that pass, it'd be an overthrow, not an underthrow. In that instance, that mistake is 100% on him. He cost us the game today. Sure he could, he saw Fitz throw a ****ty pass earlier on the same route. To say he couldn't possibly anticipate a ****ty throw is ridiculous.
Spiderweb Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 (edited) I gotta agree with simon. There is no need for a pass play call on 1st down there. Yes, a case can be made to run the ball there. Yet, on 1st down, that's the prefect time for the play Gailey called. It was simply a horribly soft under thrown ball. That's was on Fitz, not Gailey. I'll take 7 points anytime. Now, if the ball is incomplete, a run or two would have been fine.... If complete, were up 7. the chief goat was Fitz no matter how you slice it. That was a very poorly thrown ball (again). Edited October 16, 2011 by Spiderweb
San Jose Bills Fan Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 (edited) Sure he could, he saw Fitz throw a ****ty pass earlier on the same route. To say he couldn't possibly anticipate a ****ty throw is ridiculous. Does that mean that you're the type of person who doesn't get better the second time you try something? Because that's largely what you're saying. Also, do you think Gailey should send the message to Fitz that he doesn't believe in him? Because that's also part of what your position suggests. Edited October 16, 2011 by San Jose Bills Fan
billsfanmiami(oh) Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 awful !@#$ing call and awful !@#$ing execution. it's just not what you do in that situation and with that time left on the clock. sorry to all the apologists out there but if you're gonna pass in that situation you make it a pass where only your reciever is gonna get a shot at it. You don't just throw up a 50/50 ball towards the sidelines. The most disappointing thing about it is that I thought Fitz was smarter than that. I understand that he is not the most skilled QB, but that mistake is unexcuseable. joke of a call and joke in execution
Wayne Cubed Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 I don't understand what's up with people and settling for a field goal. You can't sit there and talk about time management. There is no way we run the clock out, get 3 points, and give no time to the giants. They were gonna get the ball back either way. I'd rather have 7 than 3. Force them to go the whole way. It was a good play call, Stevie was as wide open as you can get in the NFL. Fitz just threw a terrible ball(2x). Fitz lost us that game.
ko12010 Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 It is absolutely not the right call to be throwing it up like that on first down. Passing is fine if it's a slant route or another screen to Freddie but a f"ing fade to a well covered Stevie? Give me a break. Im not saying it was or wasn't a bad call but Stevie was NOT well covered. It was just a severely underthrown football. The miss on a fade or fly always has to be long. Two tough throws. I would say the call was fine because Stevie beat his coverage clean. Just underthrown.
BuffaloBillsForever Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 I will take that play over and over again. 1 on 1 coverage, Stevie beats his man at the line. This is a high percentage completion at this point. Fitzy just failed miserably.
Spiderweb Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 I will take that play over and over again. 1 on 1 coverage, Stevie beats his man at the line. This is a high percentage completion at this point. Fitzy just failed miserably. Exactly..... +1
metzelaars_lives Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 Stevie had two steps and a well-thrown ball is a TD. Like the call or not, the second guessing only comes into play when the execution fails. If that ball is well-thrown, we're celebrating and lauding Gailey for the aggressiveness. Would Jauron ever allow his OC to make a call like that? What was Curtis Modkins thinking on that play!?!
Simon Posted October 16, 2011 Author Posted October 16, 2011 There is no way we run the clock out, get 3 points, and give no time to the giants. What? There are a vast multitude of ways for the Bills to pick up a first down (or two) and bleed the clock before attacking the endzone in a less dangerous manner
Bangarang Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 (edited) Aside from FJax 80 yard run, he had 15 carries for 41 yards. That's 2.7 ypc. How can people so confidently say that we could have easily ran the ball and run out the clock? And how much clock do you expect to burn being just outside the red zone? Especially since the Giants still had 2 time outs remaining. Edited October 16, 2011 by Bangarang
tbonehawaii Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 Only if he completes it for a touchdown. Otherwise, no. The point is that by running it is a virtual certainty you are up by 3 with little time left and a significant chance you are up by seven with way less time on the clock than if that pass goes for a score.
34-78-83 Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 Stevie had two steps and a well-thrown ball is a TD. Like the call or not, the second guessing only comes into play when the execution fails. If that ball is well-thrown, we're celebrating and lauding Gailey for the aggressiveness. Would Jauron ever allow his OC to make a call like that? This.... The alignment called for single coverage on the outside on Stevie. This team and regime is gonna throw that 100 times out of 100. If it's not underthrown it's a TD or incomplete. Fitz just needed to make a better throw. I hear the frustration from folks though. That call approach can also win you some games.
Frostbelt City Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 I haven't read any other posts today... just letting out some frustration. RUN THE BALL WHEN YOU ARE IN SCORING POSITION WITH 4 MINUTES LEFT.
Bangarang Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 Aside from FJax 80 yard run, he had 15 carries for 41 yards. That's 2.7 ypc. How can people so confidently say that we could have easily ran the ball and run out the clock? And how much clock do you expect to burn being just outside the red zone? Especially since the Giants still had 2 time outs remaining.
San Jose Bills Fan Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/137106-the-call/
ko12010 Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 I will take that play over and over again. 1 on 1 coverage, Stevie beats his man at the line. This is a high percentage completion at this point. Fitzy just failed miserably. Fitz has got to miss long on those!! If he plays for a miss over the top Stevie gets at least 1 of those! So tough to watch those throws. And for everyone saying it was Fitz with a weak arm thats unreal. Fitz can make every throw he just tried to guide those two in there. It was a touch issue not strength.
bills44 Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 Aside from FJax 80 yard run, he had 15 carries for 41 yards. That's 2.7 ypc. How can people so confidently say that we could have easily ran the ball and run out the clock? Especially since the Giants still had 2 time outs remaining. as Simon said, it didn't have to be FJ running the ball. Safe passes - screens, something short to Chandler - may have worked as well
34-78-83 Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 Jauron sure would have run the ball there ... Just sayin...
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