Armchair GM Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 I've seen enough of Martin (was targeted on Fitzy's int Sunday & fell down). sure he makes a play here and there on ST, but I'm willing to bet there would be little fall off with Aiken. Martin has bounced around and hasn't stuck anywhere & Aiken is a young (UDFA siging) sitting on our practice squad? The kid's about 6'1" and around 215....pretty good size! He ran a 4.45 @ UCF's proday and in the preseason performed really well...something like 5 catches for 100 yds, and I think all of those cathes were for 1st downs...He looked to run crisp routes and was able to get good seperation...I'm not sure what the eligibility rules are with retaining the ability to PS him next year IF we activate him for a couple games while Nelson heals up...Anyone?
AReed Deep For 7 Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 Lets see what he's got. Ruvell Martin is a bum, and we need a WR worse than a ST, our #2 WR is down for 4-6 games, and we run a spread offense. See ya later Ruvell
PromoTheRobot Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 Kick returners don't tackle themselves. You better pay attention to special teams even if they don't make the highlight reels. PTR
Gugny Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 I think Aiken should be brought up, but not at Martin's expense. Wheatley should be demoted to make room. We have 6 healthy CBs.
nucci Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 I think Aiken should be brought up, but not at Martin's expense. Wheatley should be demoted to make room. We have 6 healthy CBs. With McGee expected to play Sunday, I think you're right.
Armchair GM Posted October 11, 2011 Author Posted October 11, 2011 I think Aiken should be brought up, but not at Martin's expense. Wheatley should be demoted to make room. We have 6 healthy CBs. Fine with me...whatever will give this kid an opportunity. Kick returners don't tackle themselves. You better pay attention to special teams even if they don't make the highlight reels. PTR oh, that's right! OK, thanks!
NewEra Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 Can't wait til we bring him up....if we bring him up I should say. I'm on board with most of you guys, Aiken has talent. I could see him blossoming into an Hakeem Nicks type....maybe not as good.
LabattBlue Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 (edited) Maybe the reason he is on the practice squad is because he hasn't completely grasped the offense. You know the kind of thing where when you run the incorrect route, it turns into a pick six. :doh: Edited October 11, 2011 by LabattBlue
Cotton Fitzsimmons Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 Maybe the reason he is on the practice squad is because he hasn't completely grasped the offense. You know the kind of thing where when you run the incorrect route, it turns into a pick six. :doh: That sounds more like one of Ruvy Martin's tricks.
Billshank Redemption Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 I went to training camp 2 times just because like a lot of people in here were more then the causal fans and like to know every piece of the team. 88 was consistently making plays no matter who they threw at him. He actually reminds me a lot of victor cruz, I think he definitely needs some polishing but he has big time potential and he's the type of guy to go up and get the deep balls something we need especially with jones gone. Im not saying he's going to come in and put this team over the top, but he is someone i can see becoming a household name or at least a rock solid player in a couple years.
Charles Romes Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 I've seen enough of Martin (was targeted on Fitzy's int Sunday & fell down). sure he makes a play here and there on ST, but I'm willing to bet there would be little fall off with Aiken. Martin has bounced around and hasn't stuck anywhere & Aiken is a young (UDFA siging) sitting on our practice squad? The kid's about 6'1" and around 215....pretty good size! He ran a 4.45 @ UCF's proday and in the preseason performed really well...something like 5 catches for 100 yds, and I think all of those cathes were for 1st downs...He looked to run crisp routes and was able to get good seperation...I'm not sure what the eligibility rules are with retaining the ability to PS him next year IF we activate him for a couple games while Nelson heals up...Anyone? I am a big fan of Aiken. He has the look of a prototypical #1 receiver. I agree that he should be playing ahead of Martin and that Martin should be cut. I also thought Aiken should have been called up before Roosevelt. It should be noted that these comments are coming from someone who thought Brohm should be playing ahead of Fitz because he looked more like a #1.
5 Wide Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 Kick returners don't tackle themselves. You better pay attention to special teams even if they don't make the highlight reels. PTR No doubt Promo, but 15 snaps on offense > 1 or 2 Kickoffs that aren't touchbacks.
seq004 Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 Have to agree, Martin is a waste of roster spot and I like what I've seen of Aiken.
Santana Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 Yeah i'm not really sold on Ruvell Martin, Kamar Aiken has a lot more upside. He would definitely be worth a look.
Geno Smith's Arm Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 Kick returners don't tackle themselves. You better pay attention to special teams even if they don't make the highlight reels. PTR Kickoffs are practically a formality. I think the old way of keeping a guy because of his special teams skills has lost a lot of importance. I realize there are still punts, but the amount gained by having a better "regular" player seems to now outweigh the special teamer. Unless we are talking about a guy that can block kicks or something.
Malazan Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 I think that we should not trust the guy who has turned a bunch of no name receivers into budding stars to make the right decision.
Armchair GM Posted October 12, 2011 Author Posted October 12, 2011 (edited) I think that we should not trust the guy who has turned a bunch of no name receivers into budding stars to make the right decision. Agreed to a point, but this ain't "Waterboy," these kids had some serious, undiscovered talent and were given a shot...which speaks to my original point perfectly. I billieve Aiken will turn into a GREAT WR, based on what I've seen of him, the kid looked like a vet out there. Take it with a grain of salt regarding the level of talent he was playing against, but to your point, I'll give Gailey the benefit of the doubt on ALL decisions, maybe this kids a year away, but all he needs is his "shot." Edited October 12, 2011 by Armchair GM
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