/dev/null Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 http://news.yahoo.com/poll-cain-surges-opens-20-point-lead-romney-132015440.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 http://news.yahoo.co...-132015440.html The only thing I know about him is he's a pizza guy and his 999 plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 http://news.yahoo.com/poll-cain-surges-opens-20-point-lead-romney-132015440.html It will be so funny when the white MSM pundits start calling him a racist...LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted October 7, 2011 Author Share Posted October 7, 2011 It will be so funny when the white MSM pundits start calling him a racist...LOL http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/10/06/fireworks_msnbcs_lawrence_odonnell_hostile_interview_with_herman_cain.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 The only thing I know about him is he's a pizza guy and his 999 plan. You should look a little deeper because there's a lot to like about him. Now, you won't like him because he recently made some stupid comment about how being gay is a choice, so that'll likely eliminate him in your book, but for those of us who don't get too hung up on social issues, he's a decent voice to have in the game. Another upside to him that I enjoy is that he's not afraid to admit when he doesn't have an answer for something, or if he's made a mistake. Unfortunately, there's more to the POTUS role than being a successful businessman willing to admit shortcomings. Plus, he's a southern black conservative, and many liberal blacks have already broken out the "Oreo" comments, but if you get a chance to hear him speak, he's pretty straightforward. WSJ Link Here Does a résumé like Herman Cain's add up to an American presidency? I used to think not. But after watching the American Idol system we've fallen into for discovering a president—with opinion polls, tongue slips and media caprice deciding front-runners and even presidents—I'm rewriting my presidential-selection software. Conventional wisdom holds that this week's Chris Christie boomlet means the GOP is desperate for a savior. The reality is that, at some point, Republicans will have to start drilling deeper on their own into the candidates they've got. Put it this way: The GOP nominee is running against the incumbent president. Unlike the incumbent, Herman Cain has at least twice identified the causes of a large failing enterprise, designed goals, achieved them, and by all accounts inspired the people he was supposed to lead. Not least, Mr. Cain's life experience suggests that, unlike the incumbent, he will adjust his ideas to reality. Herman Cain is a credible candidate. Whether he deserves to be president is something voters will decide. But he deserves a serious look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/10/06/fireworks_msnbcs_lawrence_odonnell_hostile_interview_with_herman_cain.html Wow, Cain needs to show better judgement than to go on an MSNBC show. He says that there are people who are too far gone to even have the capacity listen and that's the MSNBC audience in a nutshell. Just waiting for the predictable "Uncle Tom" moniker in 3, 2, 1... Hopefully he's learned his lesson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 The only thing I know about him is he's a pizza guy and his 999 plan. 9 inch pizza.....9 toppings......9 bucks?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 9 inch pizza.....9 toppings......9 bucks?? No, that's the Chris Christie plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 http://news.yahoo.com/poll-cain-surges-opens-20-point-lead-romney-132015440.html Wow. That was pretty embarrassing for O'Donnell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 No, that's the Chris Christie plan. I think his is the 9999 plan Nine 9 inch pizzas....9 toppings....9 bucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Wow. That was pretty embarrassing for O'Donnell. Yeah, like the sun never rises or sets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted October 7, 2011 Author Share Posted October 7, 2011 Wow. That was pretty embarrassing for O'Donnell. Not really. I've seen his show a couple times and he's usually that awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Not really. I've seen his show a couple times and he's usually that awful Then he needs to pick some lower-hanging fruit because all he did was give Herman Cain a nice video clip to send around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 The poll found that 38 percent of Republican primary voters said they would vote for Cain if the primary were held today. This tells me that 68% of GOP primary voters must be racists. Seriously though, regarding the 999 plan. Has his plan been scored or reviewed by any known economist? This is a serious question to ask, anyone who is thinking about supporting him has to demand an answer to this question. We are talking about overhauling the US tax code, I mean I know it sounds nice and all, 999, and it's "bold" and what not, but it's something that he should be pressed on. I don't have an issue with a US sales tax, considering there is lots of revenues to be had from illegal immigrants, US underground trade etc, but it can be quite regressive, and there certainly are many families out there that are falling more and more into poverty, so a regressive tax is unacceptable unless it comes with the caveat that it excludes essentials such as food, gas and possibly clothing. This is something that has to be well thought out, we can't possibly put more burdens on families that are overburdened as it is. So again, Mr. Cain has to come out with a study or a review from a respected economist that this 999 plan would effectively bring in more revenues and not place many struggling families into a worse position then their in right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted October 7, 2011 Author Share Posted October 7, 2011 Then he needs to pick some lower-hanging fruit because all he did was give Herman Cain a nice video clip to send around. Cut the guy some slack. With Palin officially not running, MSNBC is scrambling for new material Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 This tells me that 68% of GOP primary voters must be racists. so you work with numbers huh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 so you work with numbers huh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Has his plan been scored or reviewed by any known economist? I suspect it will be whether he likes it or not. The onus will be on him to get in front of it because now that he's the new flavor of the month, the other candidates will beat the schit out of him at the next debate...and one of the clubs they could use will be "We reviewed your 9-9-9 plan with a top economist and found out..." If you watched the McDonnell interview, he tried to do it, but was just making stuff up. The next person to do that will have backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 I suspect it will be whether he likes it or not. The onus will be on him to get in front of it because now that he's the new flavor of the month, the other candidates will beat the schit out of him at the next debate...and one of the clubs they could use will be "We reviewed your 9-9-9 plan with a top economist and found out..." If you watched the McDonnell interview, he tried to do it, but was just making stuff up. The next person to do that will have backup. Yep, he needs to get out in front of it. In regards to watching the McDonnell interview, I didn't see it. The only ones I can watch from that network are Matthews and Morning Joe, good interviews and debates. But holy ****! Has anyone seen the Rev.'s show on MSNBC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 This tells me that 68% of GOP primary voters must be racists. Seriously though, regarding the 999 plan. Has his plan been scored or reviewed by any known economist? This is a serious question to ask, anyone who is thinking about supporting him has to demand an answer to this question. We are talking about overhauling the US tax code, I mean I know it sounds nice and all, 999, and it's "bold" and what not, but it's something that he should be pressed on. I don't have an issue with a US sales tax, considering there is lots of revenues to be had from illegal immigrants, US underground trade etc, but it can be quite regressive, and there certainly are many families out there that are falling more and more into poverty, so a regressive tax is unacceptable unless it comes with the caveat that it excludes essentials such as food, gas and possibly clothing. This is something that has to be well thought out, we can't possibly put more burdens on families that are overburdened as it is. So again, Mr. Cain has to come out with a study or a review from a respected economist that this 999 plan would effectively bring in more revenues and not place many struggling families into a worse position then their in right now. I don't think that his plan has been, but the big problem with the national VAT is slippage of a portion of the economy underground, and a 9% national sales tax on top of the state taxes raises the price of good enough to encourage a gray market. You're probably better off lowering the vat to 3% and raising the income tax to 15%. Or simply have a flat top 20% income tax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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