EasternOHBillsFan Posted October 4, 2011 Posted October 4, 2011 Again, if you honestly didn't hear anyone refer to Bush as Hitler you have led a very sheltered life on that boat. I never SAID I didn't!!!! Come on now... you said that it happened without any examples.
DanInUticaTampa Posted October 4, 2011 Posted October 4, 2011 I never SAID I didn't!!!! Come on now... you said that it happened without any examples. You shouldn't have to provide examples when something is common knowledge. why are you nitpicking at something so silly? and why would you ask for examples when you have already heard of such examples? If you are trying to prove a point, stop beating around the bush because no one cant get what you are trying to prove except you want "examples" of things you already know exist.
Taro T Posted October 4, 2011 Posted October 4, 2011 I never SAID I didn't!!!! Come on now... you said that it happened without any examples. You need examples to prove something that you indirectly admit to knowing about? Sorry, I expect that I am done responding to you in this thread. Referring to Bush as Bush is enough. Bush doesn't need to be compared to Hitler. THAT was funny.
dave mcbride Posted October 4, 2011 Posted October 4, 2011 Again, if you honestly didn't hear anyone refer to Bush as Hitler you have led a very sheltered life on that boat. Actually, I'd say that the stupid comparison with the American Executive and the Fuhrer has occurred more with Obama than Bush (and trust me, I follow these things). Why? Jonah Goldberg's argument in his wretched LIBERAL FASCISM (where he subsumes modern liberalism into fascist statism) became a genuine meme on the right, and when combined with the OBAMA=SOCIALISM meme that percolated throughout the right beginning in early 09, it was an easy road for those inclined to make the comparison. I'm not saying that some misguided souls didn't compare Bush Jr. with Hitler, but I'll bet that if you trolled the internet for comparison between Obama and Hitler/national socialism or the left more generally with national socialism, you'd find more instances of it. That said, I wouldn't waste your time trying. It's not interesting.
DanInUticaTampa Posted October 4, 2011 Posted October 4, 2011 Actually, I'd say that the stupid comparison with the American Executive and the Fuhrer has occurred more with Obama than Bush (and trust me, I follow these things). Why? Jonah Goldberg's argument in his wretched LIBERAL FASCISM (where he subsumes modern liberalism into fascist statism) became a genuine meme on the right, and when combined with the OBAMA=SOCIALISM meme that percolated throughout the right beginning in early 09, it was an easy road for those inclined to make the comparison. I'm not saying that some misguided souls didn't compare Bush Jr. with Hitler, but I'll bet that if you trolled the internet for comparison between Obama and Hitler/national socialism or the left more generally with national socialism, you'd find more instances of it. That said, I wouldn't waste your time trying. It's not interesting. pretty much should end the discussion with the whole argument. And I really don't understand why people think that people who make their living as a public figure wouldn't have consequences for saying something contraversial. it happens all the time. it has nothing to do with freedom of speech. if you make your living off the public, then your pay goes way down once you do something the public doesn't like. it isn't like a normal job where you can say **** at a bar and go in the next day an no one has any idea that you ran your mouth.
Dirtbag Posted October 4, 2011 Posted October 4, 2011 i can't wait for one of those "hitler is angry they fired hank williams jr from monday night football" videos on the youtubes.
skibum Posted October 4, 2011 Posted October 4, 2011 How did this become such a political thread? Can't we all, in the spirit of America, come together and agree that Hank WIlliams, Jr. is a third-rate country singer with two "hits" that both stink? It's time for a regime change.
DC Tom Posted October 4, 2011 Posted October 4, 2011 Examples? What happened to the examples that did? Curious... Seriously? It wasn't even an analogy, it was a literal statement, based on the whole "Grandpappy Prescott Bush funded the Nazi Party" nonsense.
apuszczalowski Posted October 4, 2011 Posted October 4, 2011 How did this become such a political thread? Can't we all, in the spirit of America, come together and agree that Hank WIlliams, Jr. is a third-rate country singer with two "hits" that both stink? It's time for a regime change. Actually, I think everyone in here is acting very American like. Theres two sides, arguing over which side is worse/better, resorting to name calling at times, and not willing to compermise with either sides 'facts" because their side is the true "correct side" just like how things are done in Washington! Seriously guys, your country is screwed..........
DC Tom Posted October 4, 2011 Posted October 4, 2011 Seriously guys, your country is screwed.......... Believe me, we know... But we all think it's the other guy's fault.
Kaz Posted October 4, 2011 Posted October 4, 2011 i can't wait for one of those "hitler is angry they fired hank williams jr from monday night football" videos on the youtubes.
DanInUticaTampa Posted October 4, 2011 Posted October 4, 2011 How did this become such a political thread? Can't we all, in the spirit of America, come together and agree that Hank WIlliams, Jr. is a third-rate country singer with two "hits" that both stink? It's time for a regime change. amen!
apuszczalowski Posted October 4, 2011 Posted October 4, 2011 Believe me, we know... But we all think it's the other guy's fault. Well, as long as you can always blame the other/new guy!
dave mcbride Posted October 4, 2011 Posted October 4, 2011 i can't wait for one of those "hitler is angry they fired hank williams jr from monday night football" videos on the youtubes. Here's a weak early attempt: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5xNp4lM1Ws. I'm guessing a better one will crop up soon enough.
xsoldier54 Posted October 4, 2011 Posted October 4, 2011 Agreed, he did nothing wrong, he has every right to say what he wants to say, like ESPN has every right to remove him from their broadcast because of his comments, and everyone has the right to agree or disagree with his comments. But seriously, stop posting, cause you are really making a case for HWjr being a sharper tool in the shed then you. Right in his comment he said that ''You used the name of one of the most hated people in all of the world to describe, I think, the president.'' Williams replied, ''Well, that is true. But I'm telling you like it is.'' Right there, in black and white (or whatever color you may have your text set to), he admits that he compares the president to Hitler, unless, in your mind and his, Netanyahu is one of the most hated men in the world. Piss off. Because I disagree with your interpretation of what he said doesn't make me stupid. I heard what he said and I choose to believe that he is just stupid, rather than malicious. Huge difference. And why don't you stop posting. You are just showing your ignorance each time you do.
metzelaars_lives Posted October 4, 2011 Posted October 4, 2011 Piss off. Because I disagree with your interpretation of what he said doesn't make me stupid. I heard what he said and I choose to believe that he is just stupid, rather than malicious. Huge difference. And why don't you stop posting. You are just showing your ignorance each time you do. You're starting to remind me of a certain National Socialist leader of the Third Reich.
xsoldier54 Posted October 4, 2011 Posted October 4, 2011 Whatever, rook. What are we arguing about? Did I say that he wasn't allowed to open his mouth and form the words he did? Of course not. You are trying to minimalize the unbelievable extent to which his comments were ignorant, hate-inducing, offensive, unfathomable, etc., etc. (all the while wearing an Alabama hat, which is amazing BTW) Maybe you need a refresher on exactly who Adolf Hitler was. Go to his wikipedia page or something. He did a lot worse things than not reduce unemployment as quickly as he had predicted. Go look up the meaning of analogy. He did not say that Obama in any way was like Hitler. He said that Obama and Boehner playing golf together would be like Hitler playing with Netanyahu. That means it wouldn't make sense because they have such diametrically opposed views. That is what an analogy does. It is not to be taken literally. And did you really refer to me as "Rook"? Really? At least you managed to make me laugh. Maybe we ought to leave it at that.
Orton's Arm Posted October 4, 2011 Posted October 4, 2011 Is ESPN's sanction of Hank Jr. as "idiotic, nonsensical, and "PC" a move as when Glenn Beck of Fox News accused Obama of being a racist? (Beck apologized but it was an early nail in the coffin for his TV show which plummeted). If I can refresh your memory (or put it on your radar screen… if you have one), 57 advertisers of Beck's show (on Fox) withdrew ads in protest over Beck's comments. The Fox executives intervened and made Beck apologize. Beck relented saying that he has a big mouth. Obviously you're anti-liberal and would like to spin this to bolster your belief system but you're either naive or misinformed (or something else) if you think that this has anything to do with anything other than money. If ESPN didn't suspend Hank Jr's involvement, it would have cost them millions of dollars. ESPN is no different than Fox in that respect and you would do well to recognize that the action against Williams has to do with money… not "left-wing, liberal, mainstream," Obama love. Your contempt and disdain and use of catchphrases are a dead giveaway for a brainwashed opinion, IMO. Sorry. The divide and conquer people are glad to have you onboard. That is a fact. I have one piece of music by America's favorite redneck… "All my Rowdy friends…" which is a part of our league's Fantasy Football Draft playlist along with both Sportscenter themes, The Final Countdown, all the NFL Films music, Sprint Right (the official theme of the NFL), Heavy Action (Monday Night Football theme) and a bunch of other cliched sports-related crap music. It's like a Pavlovian response… I hear Hank Williams' ignorant yelling and I become happy because I know football will be served up soon. I agree that when Fox punished Beck, it was responding to financial pressure from its advertisers. The question we need to ask ourselves is, why do so many advertisers feel the need to use their financial muscle to suppress non-mainstream viewpoints? Should we as consumers seek to punish advertisers who act this way? Nine times out of ten, a non-mainstream viewpoint will be wrong. This is not because mainstream viewpoints are generally correct. It's because any given question will have far more possible wrong answers than right answers. The same mechanisms which punish people for expressing incorrect non-mainstream views will also be used to punish those who express correct non-mainstream views. This is why the financial pressure toward conformism you've described is so dangerous. Unfortunately, any news outlet which accepts money from advertisers is automatically compromised. If (for example) half of a news outlet's advertising money comes from Car Company X, and if there are serious problems with X's safety or environmental track record, how likely is the news outlet to report on those deficiencies? Advertisers reduce the news outlet's credibility and impartiality both in this manner, and by suppressing political views with which the advertisers disagree.
xsoldier54 Posted October 4, 2011 Posted October 4, 2011 You're starting to remind me of a certain National Socialist leader of the Third Reich. Now that's what I'm talking about. This thread could use a little more humor.
shrader Posted October 4, 2011 Posted October 4, 2011 You're starting to remind me of a certain National Socialist leader of the Third Reich. Obama?
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