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UDFAs don't sign fat deals. That's not disrespect. That's just what it is. When you outplay your contract you are starting from further back.

 

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Kelly you changed your name. You are no longer fair and balanced?

Never was. ;)

 

Kelly the Dog was the original name my first few years here, named after my yellow lab, Jim Kelly. I changed it as a joke, but never changed it back. I just decided to. I should have a long time ago.

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I think he was referring to the one when he was an erfa

How is that an extension? His contract was up. They tendered him at a one year deal for $460,000. Then signed him to a four year deal. That is not an extension.

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Yet another post on how Freddie is underpaid.........

 

Yes and when he signed he new contract he was the #2 back on the depth chart. That's a pretty good salary for a #2.

 

I'm not saying that he doesn't deserve a raise but it isn't going to happen mid-season. He's not struggling to pay the mortgage and his family isn't going to starve to death. It'll either get done or it won't. If it doesn't it'll give the perpetually miserable Bills fans something to B word about for the next six months.

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Never was. ;)

 

Kelly the Dog was the original name my first few years here, named after my yellow lab, Jim Kelly. I changed it as a joke, but never changed it back. I just decided to. I should have a long time ago.

Got ya... must have been before my time

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Yet another post on how Freddie is underpaid.........

 

Yes and when he signed he new contract he was the #2 back on the depth chart. That's a pretty good salary for a #2.

 

I'm not saying that he doesn't deserve a raise but it isn't going to happen mid-season. He's not struggling to pay the mortgage and his family isn't going to starve to death. It'll either get done or it won't. If it doesn't it'll give the perpetually miserable Bills fans something to B word about for the next six months.

Agreed. At the time, he was given a fair contract. He's certainly out performed it, but it was still a risk back at that time.

I give Freddie serious props though, because he's not making a huge stink right now.

He deserves appreciation when the contract is up, just hope he's healthy enough to get a new contract.

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Guys....I think freddie is gonna get taken care of.....

 

While we have lots of "ralph is cheap" on the board.....guys that actually perform and WANT to be here seem to get taken care.....

 

Freddie is tied for like the number one running back in the league....he isnt going anywhere

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Freddie will get paid. He knows that and so do the Bills. No need for sum peeps to fret. It won't be a huge $ deal because of his age. But it will be adequate enough to satisfy both parties. With his fresh legs he should be highly productive for us for at least 2-3 years.

 

Like many here I want him to retire a Bill. He's the class act I envision all future great Bills to be.

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How is that an extension? His contract was up. They tendered him at a one year deal for $460,000. Then signed him to a four year deal. That is not an extension.

 

Did you have an actual point beyond the semantics in there or did you just want to bust my balls on a choice of words?

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Jackson was a restricted free agent so the bills had a better bargaining position. Now that Jackson is playing like a Pro Bowl caliber player and Spiller has showed little Jackson is in a good bargaining position. He is now one of a handful of guys who need a new deal.

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UDFAs don't sign fat deals. That's not disrespect. That's just what it is. When you outplay your contract you are starting from further back.

 

PTR

It won't be 'disrespect' if/when he signs a new deal.

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Did you have an actual point beyond the semantics in there or did you just want to bust my balls on a choice of words?

 

IMO, it's a significant point. And perhaps THE salient point. If he signed an extension before, and they ripped up his old contract to add onto it, then he would have no little to no argument that the team should do it again. But he didn't. He has never had his contract extended. And the last time the team offered him a pitiful tender offer of $460,000.

 

So even though he has two years left on the last contract he signed, he has an argument that he has outplayed his contract, and they should revisit it. Revisiting it twice probably wouldn't be right.

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IMO, it's a significant point. And perhaps THE salient point. If he signed an extension before, and they ripped up his old contract to add onto it, then he would have no little to no argument that the team should do it again. But he didn't. He has never had his contract extended. And the last time the team offered him a pitiful tender offer of $460,000.

 

So even though he has two years left on the last contract he signed, he has an argument that he has outplayed his contract, and they should revisit it. Revisiting it twice probably wouldn't be right.

 

So he was under an expiring contract, had a 1 year tender and chose to extend that for more money.... I'm not even sure your technicality argument has any merit, yet alone the assertions based off it.

 

That said, I'd have no problem renegotiating before free agency. The source of his contract bears little on the fact that he's 18 months from free agency and that's standard practice to renegotiate in the coming offseason, if not a few weeks earlier. My feeling is it has to do with time remaining not source and this isn't year 2 of a 7 year deal where he already got big money up front and just never liked the salaries.

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