YOOOOOO Posted December 21, 2004 Posted December 21, 2004 Picture speaks a 1000 words..... Yea he was going for the ball
Alaska Darin Posted December 21, 2004 Posted December 21, 2004 Picture speaks a 1000 words.....Yea he was going for the ball 171760[/snapback] No it doesn't. You want a cheap shot, watch Rodney Harrison take a full out dive at someone's knee as they're going out of bounds voluntarily. I remember when football was football and fans understood that the game is played at full speed. That means occasionally bad things happen unintentionally. Darius has NEVER been a dirty player. Citing a teammate yelling at him on the sideline at the emotional moment isn't proof, either. No one ever does anything out of turn at the heat of the moment.
kota Posted December 21, 2004 Posted December 21, 2004 He must have been going for a one handed grab.
Guest Tatum32 Posted December 21, 2004 Posted December 21, 2004 I think it was a great hit. The guy had the ball and DD was just trying to knock it loose. That's football.
mary owen Posted December 21, 2004 Posted December 21, 2004 No it doesn't. You want a cheap shot, watch Rodney Harrison take a full out dive at someone's knee as they're going out of bounds voluntarily. I remember when football was football and fans understood that the game is played at full speed. That means occasionally bad things happen unintentionally. Darius has NEVER been a dirty player. Citing a teammate yelling at him on the sideline at the emotional moment isn't proof, either. No one ever does anything out of turn at the heat of the moment. 171770[/snapback] it's maddening to try to get through to others about it. it seems like they just look at the slow mo and the still shots. again, watch it at full speed and DD's body english tells the story. Ferguson is descending at the time the arm hits his neck. I still have it on TiVo and it's so clear to me that it was accidental. why would a leader on that D knowing how important that game was, do something so senseless? especially when he could have FACED the guy and stripped the ball out? why? because he COULDN'T!! He was moving too fast (both were) to pinpoint the guy's neck without looking at him. oh well. everyone loves drama.
Alaska Darin Posted December 21, 2004 Posted December 21, 2004 it's maddening to try to get through to others about it. it seems like they just look at the slow mo and the still shots. again, watch it at full speed and DD's body english tells the story. Ferguson is descending at the time the arm hits his neck. I still have it on TiVo and it's so clear to me that it was accidental. why would a leader on that D knowing how important that game was, do something so senseless? especially when he could have FACED the guy and stripped the ball out? why? because he COULDN'T!! He was moving too fast (both were) to pinpoint the guy's neck without looking at him. oh well. everyone loves drama. 171791[/snapback] My sigline tells the story, brother. Children of the media who need controversy to cover their own ignorance.
YOOOOOO Posted December 21, 2004 Posted December 21, 2004 Yea it couldnt of been that Darius overran the play and saw the only chance of taking Ferg down was to throw an arm out..... Did he horse collar Ferg on purpose probably not....but he wasnt trying to strip the ball out either....He was bout to get beat for an even longer gain(if not TD) and decided hell this is my only shot to stop him....
Guest Guest Posted December 21, 2004 Posted December 21, 2004 Did u see the end of the play when Brady was intercepted ... and the guy was clothslines ... blew his helment right off ... but since he popped up .. then that makes it ok???? And watched Monday night football for the first time in ages ... what is that "Jacked up" crap? No wonder players are pulling this .. just a way to get on TV !!! League has no one to blame but themselves .. I don't see any reason to punish the player for doing what they want to see happen ... just sucks for the guy with the ball.
MadBuffaloDisease Posted December 21, 2004 Posted December 21, 2004 Sorry AD, but history of dirty play or not, it was a cheap shot. Whether the intent was to injure, it was a dangerous play, just like spearing is, although unlike with spearing, the deliverer isn't at any risk of injury. And Stroud was PO'd at Darius for a reason. Michael Irvin even made mention of that.
Alaska Darin Posted December 21, 2004 Posted December 21, 2004 Sorry AD, but history of dirty play or not, it was a cheap shot. Whether the intent was to injure, it was a dangerous play, just like spearing is, although unlike with spearing, the deliverer isn't at any risk of injury. And Stroud was PO'd at Darius for a reason. Michael Irvin even made mention of that. 171905[/snapback] Oh, so now Michael Irvin is credible because he agrees with you? I must have missed the memo where he stopped being a crack using scumbag who's on television to provide controversy. Stroud was reacting like alot of emotional people do when confronted with a bad situation. Place blame immediately somewhere, regardless. There's a leader. Whoopie. Darius is guilty of taking a bad angle at a high speed and catching a guy the wrong way. Nothing more. If Ferguson had jumped up and signaled first down, that hit would have been on jacked up and people would be laughing about it. Like I said, you want to whine about dirty or cheap play, watch Rodney Harrison. Doesn't matter which week.
kota Posted December 21, 2004 Posted December 21, 2004 I have yet to see the hit at full pace. Anyone have a link to the hit? I have some thoughts on this but i don't want to make a uninformed opinion.
Guest Guest Posted December 21, 2004 Posted December 21, 2004 I agree with AD. It was not intentional on DD part but it is football and that stuff happens when you have 230 lb. guys running 100 mph in opposite directions. Last time I checked it's tackle football not flag or two hand tap. Did you see Rodney Harrison get called for spearing last night? Now that was intentional and late to boot. That's the guy who should be thrown out and crucified in the media due to the fact he has done the same thing in numerous situations in the past. I'm suprised they didn't call a penalty on the Dolphins on Brady's last pick. Somebody brushed the side of his helmet as they went by just as he was releasing the ball, especially with it being the Patriots and Brady.
MadBuffaloDisease Posted December 21, 2004 Posted December 21, 2004 I agree about Harrison. And again, think of the analogy with spearing. It's a dangerous play that likely isn't done intentionally, but that doesn't mean it's NOT wrong. And again I assert that Darius was NOT going for the ball because he missed it entirely, and it's not like Ferguson jumped or was slipping.
mary owen Posted December 21, 2004 Posted December 21, 2004 I agree about Harrison. And again, think of the analogy with spearing. It's a dangerous play that likely isn't done intentionally, but that doesn't mean it's NOT wrong. And again I assert that Darius was NOT going for the ball because he missed it entirely, and it's not like Ferguson jumped or was slipping. 172061[/snapback] Ferguson was on his way down from leaping to make the catch. the arm caught him on his way down.
Alaska Darin Posted December 21, 2004 Posted December 21, 2004 Ferguson was on his way down from leaping to make the catch. the arm caught him on his way down. 172468[/snapback] That's enough logic. Thanks.
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