DDD Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 It's not like the Bills don't do anything. They did invite 90 season ticket holders to get a signed jersey from a player. But Ralph didn't drive his Ford Taurus to my house for a cup of hot Bosco. PTR Funny but what the heck is Bosco? Is that like old-time geritol or ovaltine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Sabres management style: Announce you're going to do whatever it takes to win a Stanley Cup. Revamp team facilities to make your team as desirable as possible. Go out and spend some money to get players that fill the needs of your team. Ingratiate yourself with fans at every opportunity. Send players out to deliver season tickets to some fans. Bills management style: Bumble!@#$ your way to 11 straight non-playoff seasons, a near impossibility in today's NFL. Make your franchise so undesirable that most coaches refuse to consider employment by your team. Announce that you really don't care about winning and aren't willing to do give your all to win. Make minimal effort to improve the team. Allow bean counters to make decisions about the roster. Trade away one of your best offensive players for nothing. Refuse to pay going rate for one of your best players, a warrior and a locker room leader. (Freddie) *Note: these are not my feelings about the current Bills team/players, just the ownership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Sabres management style: Announce you're going to do whatever it takes to win a Stanley Cup. Revamp team facilities to make your team as desirable as possible. Go out and spend some money to get players that fill the needs of your team. Ingratiate yourself with fans at every opportunity. Send players out to deliver season tickets to some fans. Bills management style: Bumble!@#$ your way to 11 straight non-playoff seasons, a near impossibility in today's NFL. Make your franchise so undesirable that most coaches refuse to consider employment by your team. Announce that you really don't care about winning and aren't willing to do give your all to win. Make minimal effort to improve the team. Allow bean counters to make decisions about the roster. Trade away one of your best offensive players for nothing. Refuse to pay going rate for one of your best players, a warrior and a locker room leader. (Freddie) *Note: these are not my feelings about the current Bills team/players, just the ownership. Exceptional post. Very concise and substative. Laser sharp commentary. The committment to excellence and winning starts at the top with ownership. The owner and his primary business aid, Jeff Littman, have created a business model that allows it to make money without serious consideration to the caliber of the product. Instead of taking a myopic view of the franchise and focusing on extracting out instead of fortifying the team so this franchise could be even more prosperous. The Bills' fans are sophisticated enough to know that this franchise can't be run in a spendthrift manner. That would be irresponsible and unsustainable. What this fanbase deserves is a degree of competency and respect for its paying customers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTS Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Terry does it again. Sabres sign Tyler Myers to a seven-year contract extension. Rumor is $5.5 per year. Presser today at 2PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Excellent move by the Sabres. This cost them nothing and the value it creates by generating goodwill in their fans is incalculable. The Bills should be taking notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Excellent move by the Sabres. This cost them nothing and the value it creates by generating goodwill in their fans is incalculable. The Bills should be taking notes. How does this cost them nothing? Looks like about $35M to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 How does this cost them nothing? Looks like about $35M to me. It cost them nothing this season. His hit won't affect their cap until next season is what he was pointing at. Although, with the upside that Myers has and the likelihood of the cap increasing more of the time of the contract, it will end up being pennies on the dollar. Kind of like Stafford's contract. They are paying him 4mil per year but with the increase of the cap I think the difference worked out to something like 2.75 mil per year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 LET'S GO BUFFALO!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 It cost them nothing this season. His hit won't affect their cap until next season is what he was pointing at. Although, with the upside that Myers has and the likelihood of the cap increasing more of the time of the contract, it will end up being pennies on the dollar. Kind of like Stafford's contract. They are paying him 4mil per year but with the increase of the cap I think the difference worked out to something like 2.75 mil per year. Got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 What's BS? The fact that numerous coaches flat out turned down the Bills for coaching interviews last year? The fact that the Bills are on record as saying they are not going to be active in free agency (ie-not giving your all to win) The fact that the Bills are 26 million below the cap? The fact that they refuse to pay Freddie a decent contract despite all he's done for the team? The fact that Bills' decisions are always over-reachingly influenced by the accounting side over the football side? The fact that we traded Lee Evans for a mere pittance? Most of what you've written is either hearsay or "urban legend" based upon folks repeating it over and over. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest the Evans trade was dictated by "the accounting side" -- and as for what was obtained in return, please provide specific examples of higher draft picks obtained for a player with similar statistics as Evans. Whether or not Fred Jackson has a "decent" contract is a matter of opinion, not fact. He was an undrafted free agent who already had his deal re-done once. We have no idea what discussions the Bills are having internally about a potential re-working of Fred's deal. The Bills and Buddy Nix have NEVER said they won't be "active in free agency" -- they have said their priority is to build through the draft and add pieces via free agency that fit within the framework of what they're trying to accomplish. Buddy repeatedly says he won't "overspend" just to be flashy -- he only wants to improve the team. I'd suggest the acquisitions of Dwan Edwards, Nick Barnett, Kirk Morrison, Shawne Merriman, several O-linemen, and Scott Chandler provide ample proof the Bills are "active" and trying to make the football team better. That strategy doesn't fit with the "fantasy football" mentality of the average boneheaded fan (or local media), but that also doesn't mean it's not a legitimate way to build a competitive football team. There is one consistent message coming out of OBD -- Buddy Nix makes the football decisions, period. If you don't like his strategy or judgment, that's your prerogative, but it's time to stop making schitt up or treating someone else's uninformed opinion as fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Most of what you've written is either hearsay or "urban legend" based upon folks repeating it over and over. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest the Evans trade was dictated by "the accounting side" -- and as for what was obtained in return, please provide specific examples of higher draft picks obtained for a player with similar statistics as Evans. Whether or not Fred Jackson has a "decent" contract is a matter of opinion, not fact. He was an undrafted free agent who already had his deal re-done once. We have no idea what discussions the Bills are having internally about a potential re-working of Fred's deal. The Bills and Buddy Nix have NEVER said they won't be "active in free agency" -- they have said their priority is to build through the draft and add pieces via free agency that fit within the framework of what they're trying to accomplish. Buddy repeatedly says he won't "overspend" just to be flashy -- he only wants to improve the team. I'd suggest the acquisitions of Dwan Edwards, Nick Barnett, Kirk Morrison, Shawne Merriman, several O-linemen, and Scott Chandler provide ample proof the Bills are "active" and trying to make the football team better. That strategy doesn't fit with the "fantasy football" mentality of the average boneheaded fan (or local media), but that also doesn't mean it's not a legitimate way to build a competitive football team. There is one consistent message coming out of OBD -- Buddy Nix makes the football decisions, period. If you don't like his strategy or judgment, that's your prerogative, but it's time to stop making schitt up or treating someone else's uninformed opinion as fact. AMEN brotha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Funny but what the heck is Bosco? Is that like old-time geritol or ovaltine? More like Ovaltine. It's a brand of chocolate syrup popular in the 60s they added to milk. Hot Bosco is hot chocolate. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 More like Ovaltine. It's a brand of chocolate syrup popular in the 60s they added to milk. Hot Bosco is hot chocolate. PTR It's also George Costanza's ATM card passcode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ (not THAT RJ) Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Most of what you've written is either hearsay or "urban legend" based upon folks repeating it over and over. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest the Evans trade was dictated by "the accounting side" -- and as for what was obtained in return, please provide specific examples of higher draft picks obtained for a player with similar statistics as Evans. Whether or not Fred Jackson has a "decent" contract is a matter of opinion, not fact. He was an undrafted free agent who already had his deal re-done once. We have no idea what discussions the Bills are having internally about a potential re-working of Fred's deal. The Bills and Buddy Nix have NEVER said they won't be "active in free agency" -- they have said their priority is to build through the draft and add pieces via free agency that fit within the framework of what they're trying to accomplish. Buddy repeatedly says he won't "overspend" just to be flashy -- he only wants to improve the team. I'd suggest the acquisitions of Dwan Edwards, Nick Barnett, Kirk Morrison, Shawne Merriman, several O-linemen, and Scott Chandler provide ample proof the Bills are "active" and trying to make the football team better. That strategy doesn't fit with the "fantasy football" mentality of the average boneheaded fan (or local media), but that also doesn't mean it's not a legitimate way to build a competitive football team. There is one consistent message coming out of OBD -- Buddy Nix makes the football decisions, period. If you don't like his strategy or judgment, that's your prerogative, but it's time to stop making schitt up or treating someone else's uninformed opinion as fact. You are on fire, brother! Rock on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 (edited) Most of what you've written is either hearsay or "urban legend" based upon folks repeating it over and over. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest the Evans trade was dictated by "the accounting side" -- and as for what was obtained in return, please provide specific examples of higher draft picks obtained for a player with similar statistics as Evans.. Unfortunately there is. Wawrow's article suggests financials drove the Evans trade, since the trade was facilitated by the Bills salary cap specialist. Now, I don't believe everything I read, but jw has a reputation of impeccable journalistic integrity. I'm not trying to start a pissing match, just being fair. There is, in fact, evidence of this happening. http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2011/8/24/2381348/lee-evans-trade-buddy-nix-jim-overdorf The Bills did receive appropriate compensation though, no disputing that. But the motivation of the trade is troubling. Edited September 15, 2011 by kas23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 (edited) How does this cost them nothing? Looks like about $35M to me. I think he was referring to the ticket delivery. Edited September 15, 2011 by LabattBlue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 I think he was referring to the ticket delivery. Ha! Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Unfortunately there is. Wawrow's article suggests financials drove the Evans trade, since the trade was facilitated by the Bills salary cap specialist. Now, I don't believe everything I read, but jw has a reputation of impeccable journalistic integrity. I'm not trying to start a pissing match, just being fair. There is, in fact, evidence of this happening. http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2011/8/24/2381348/lee-evans-trade-buddy-nix-jim-overdorf The Bills did receive appropriate compensation though, no disputing that. But the motivation of the trade is troubling. Suggestions don't equate to evidence -- and in this particular case, those suggestions were roundly dismissed by Nix, who explained very clearly how Overdork handles the specific negotiations but isn't making the football decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTS Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Some more gems from Pegula today. I'm paraphrasing but you'll catch the drift: On how much money he's spent on the team: "I don't really know and to be honest I don’t really care." On being an owner: "When you own a professional sports team, it's your obligation to the fans and to the city to do everything you can to win." My Favorite: "We're going to win a Stanley Cup or we are going to die trying." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Some more gems from Pegula today. I'm paraphrasing but you'll catch the drift: On how much money he's spent on the team: "I don't really know and to be honest I don’t really care." On being an owner: "When you own a professional sports team, it's your obligation to the fans and to the city to do everything you can to win." My Favorite: "We're going to win a Stanley Cup or we are going to die trying." My man crush on Pegula and Black grows by the day. He is the dream owner and hopefully owns the Sabres for a long long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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