3rdnlng Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2011/09/11/140374567/looking-back-10-years-president-bushs-address-to-the-nation?ft=1&f=1001 I don't agree with everything he did or the way he did them throughout his presidency but he certainly was a real President during these times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 You even had to make this political... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 11, 2011 Author Share Posted September 11, 2011 You even had to make this political... I didn't intend to make this political but I can see how it could be taken that way. It was more of a tribute to President Bush's strength and inspiration at the time. It just sort of struck me as I was reading over his speech this morning the vast difference between the two of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 (edited) I didn't intend to make this political but I can see how it could be taken that way. It was more of a tribute to President Bush's strength and inspiration at the time. It just sort of struck me as I was reading over his speech this morning the vast difference between the two of them. You have gone from annoying twerp, to total douche. Congrats, your PPP make-over is complete. Edited September 11, 2011 by Buftex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 Just compare the two today at Ground Zero. Also, Bush was in PA Saturday at the Flight 93 memorial dedication. What was so important that Obama sent Biden? He was handing out food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 11, 2011 Author Share Posted September 11, 2011 You have gone from annoying twerp, to total douche. Congrats, your PPP make-over is complete. So, in your feeble mind I'm a douche because: 1. I didn't intend to make this political? 2. I could see how it could be taken that way? 3. I was making a tribute to President Bush's strength and inspiration? 4. I was struck with the vast difference between the two men? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 Obama would go on TV and explain why the attack is not his fault because the Intelligence infrastructure which failed to catch the attack was inherited from the previous administration. Then he would apologize to the pissed off Muslims. And what about the rest of America? Just 10 years later, I doubt we would come together the way we did that unfortunate day. That day we were all Americans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 11, 2011 Author Share Posted September 11, 2011 Obama would go on TV and explain why the attack is not his fault because the Intelligence infrastructure which failed to catch the attack was inherited from the previous administration. Then he would apologize to the pissed off Muslims. And what about the rest of America? Just 10 years later, I doubt we would come together the way we did that unfortunate day. That day we were all Americans. That was stated very well. It was also part of what was in the back of my mind with the original post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 I say this without a political tinge, just an observation of their communication styles.... President Bush talked to us. He wasn't a smooth speaker at all times, for sure, but it was almost always a conversational tone of someone who could connect with anyone one-on-one. Certainly a far cry from Ronald Reagan but I believe that's who he modeled himself after. But you're always going to get an undawdled honest answer based on what he knows and how he thinks. President Obama talks at us. He's a clear and concise speaker who has a halted speech style that makes sure he's picking/reading the exact right word. Professorial, I'd call it. There is an immediate distance established. Ask him a question, present him with something that needs to be decided on RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW, and he wouldn't know whether to **** or turn purple. The impression from his style is that he's crafting his message with the goal of persuading and winning approval rather/more than just telling you what he thinks... but that he'd rather go to his office and map a response out and test it for a month before he gives an answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 11, 2011 Author Share Posted September 11, 2011 Now this is a douche. http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/11/the-years-of-shame/?smid=tw-NytimesKrugman&seid=auto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 Now this is a douche. http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/11/the-years-of-shame/?smid=tw-NytimesKrugman&seid=auto What metal are Nobel Prizes made of? I hope it's not gold, because that would mean Paul Doucheman's prize has only increased in value since he got it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 Now this is a douche. http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/11/the-years-of-shame/?smid=tw-NytimesKrugman&seid=auto I’m not going to allow comments on this post, for obvious reasons. The obvious reason being that he's a !@#$ing * who here deigns to tell everyone the content of our own thoughts. Thoughts that, wouldn't you know, agree with Krugman's worldview. And then being too chickenshit to accept criticism. So basically, just another day of being a typical liberal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveinElma Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 This is what I'll never forget/forgive from that day. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRA0NKQ0k6E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 (edited) So, in your feeble mind I'm a douche because: 1. I didn't intend to make this political? 2. I could see how it could be taken that way? 3. I was making a tribute to President Bush's strength and inspiration? 4. I was struck with the vast difference between the two men? Your rational, unbiased view is so wise.. I suspect that there is almost nothing any president could have said, in Bush's position, that could have been wrong...unless, of course, like some of you, Obama is some closet Muslim terrorist...Bush was always great with the platitudes...not so much with the actions. I am not sure how this makes him a "real president". Edited September 11, 2011 by Buftex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 You even had to make this political... By definition, 9/11 was and is a political event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 11, 2011 Author Share Posted September 11, 2011 Your rational, unbiased view is so wise.. I suspect that there is almost nothing any president could have said, in Bush's position, that could have been wrong...unless, of course, like some of you, Obama is some closet Muslim terrorist...Bush was always great with the platitudes...not so much with the actions. I am not sure how this makes him a "real president". That was a very weak response. You quoted me with your prior post but come up with this bs? Why didn't you tell me specifically what you objected to? In addition, why would you try to say that I think Obana is some closet Muslim terrorist? You have nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 I said it then and will say it now... This is so subjective. I totally disagree with what has been said via the conservative viewpoints in this tread. I don't feel Obama talks "at us." IMO, that is just people's inferiority complex coming out. I never felt an ounce of strength or conviction from Bush. I am fine with each person having their own take on how a person comes across... It will always be a subjective. Trying to make it objective is foolish... Like this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 12, 2011 Author Share Posted September 12, 2011 I said it then and will say it now... This is so subjective. I totally disagree with what has been said via the conservative viewpoints in this tread. I don't feel Obama talks "at us." IMO, that is just people's inferiority complex coming out. I never felt an ounce of strength or conviction from Bush. I am fine with each person having their own take on how a person comes across... It will always be a subjective. Trying to make it objective is foolish... Like this thread. You made more sense when you were in exhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 I said it then and will say it now... This is so subjective. I totally disagree with what has been said via the conservative viewpoints in this tread. I don't feel Obama talks "at us." IMO, that is just people's inferiority complex coming out. I never felt an ounce of strength or conviction from Bush. I am fine with each person having their own take on how a person comes across... It will always be a subjective. Trying to make it objective is foolish... Like this thread. I feel Obama talks "at us". Now accuse me of having an inferiority complex...that'd be a first. And for what it's worth, I never felt any strength or conviction from Bush, either...though from everything I've heard (from more than a few people) he certainly had plenty of conviction privately. Apparently he just never expressed it publicly, because you put him in a suit in front of the camera and he basically looked like a kid playing dress-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 (edited) That was a very weak response. You quoted me with your prior post but come up with this bs? Why didn't you tell me specifically what you objected to? In addition, why would you try to say that I think Obana is some closet Muslim terrorist? You have nothing. I didn't "object" to anything...you trotted out the same tired cliche about Bush having his finest moment, that day, on the pile of rubble. This tired point has been made 1000's of times over the last 10 years.. It was a fine moment, in all sincerity. And, my point was, if you were being honest, there is almost nothing any president could say, or do, in that situation, at that moment, that would have been wrong...Bush had the will of the people on his side, like almost no president has had in my lifetime, and didn't really do a whole hell of a lot with it...and, in fact, his time in office only divided us more...and it continues today. So, I guess, what I am saying is, what you hail as a great moment, I see as a missed opportunity. In case it escaped you, your "could Obama say the same words with conviction" are about all I need to know about where your coming from..."you didn't mean to make it politcal"? Please...is that the best you can come up with...who has nothing? Edited September 12, 2011 by Buftex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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