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That's right. Sully is an idiot. Everything has been going well the past decade. They have made all the right draft picks, acquired the right FA's, and spent to the cap in an attempt to put forth a winning team that has gone to multiple Super Bowls and won two. Oh wait, sorry, I was talking about the Steelers and what a winning team does. I guess Sully might be rigth after all. How anyone with a sane mind can defend what the Bills do is laughable. Did the Steelers trade Heinz Ward because he was "holding back the development" of Sanders and Brown. No, they kept him around because he still has value, is relatively inexpensive, and can help the young guys out. The trade of Evans was a money-saving joke, just as cutting Handgardner was.

 

The Steelers didn't cut Heinz Ward because he runs all the patterns and is one of the elite blocking wideouts in the league. Lee Evans did neither well. Why come here if you hate the Bills so much, you must enjoy playing devil's advocate and annoying fans who want to wait to at least the first game before we label this team as terrible.

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Do people even read these anymore before going off on their latest crusade against Sullivan? Yeah, he's pretty much not worth reading most of the time, but this one was incredibly tame. It's an indictment of the previous regimes that have left this team in a bad spot. I don't see how anyone can question that thought.

 

With that said, I will say that the last line of the column was definitely an attempt to stir people up a bit (something Sullivan and Schopp are PAID to do). The rest seemed pretty fair. This thread is right up there with any of the one's where people rant about being ranked 30th in a power ranking.

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You don't "rebuild" by trading a top WR for a 4th round draft pick, and by cutting an average OL when you lack depth at that position, particularly when you have no viable backup. Explain to me how Nix is "building." This is more of the same old Cheap Ralph, and I bet you were saying "give it more time" when jauron was coaching.

 

I agree.

 

But what does this have to do with the Evans trade?

 

What was he top of again?

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I agree.

 

But what does this have to do with the Evans trade?

 

What was he top of again?

You got those Chan publicly calling out Evans for a year links?

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You got those Chan publicly calling out Evans for a year links?

 

You honestly havent seen them yet? It was at least 2 interviews going back to April, I believe. I'll see if I can dig them up from the board. But it's been WELL documented.

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You don't "rebuild" by trading a top WR for a 4th round draft pick, and by cutting an average OL when you lack depth at that position, particularly when you have no viable backup. Explain to me how Nix is "building." This is more of the same old Cheap Ralph, and I bet you were saying "give it more time" when jauron was coaching.

So you are saying you "rebuild" by sticking with the mediocre guys who've accomplished nothing? You can't B word about the Bills needing to rebuild then piss and moan when they make a change.

 

PTR

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Now I am waiting for the people to come on this post and say he doesn't know what he is talking about. Trading Lee Evans was just the lastest in the completely idiotic moves this franchise continues to make, over and over.

 

They will naturally fall to the old reasoning of "There goes Sully again, always negative and trying to stir the pot".

 

If Justice is blind, then Bills fans who can't see the truth in this are blind, deaf, and many other things...

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So you are saying you "rebuild" by sticking with the mediocre guys who've accomplished nothing? You can't B word about the Bills needing to rebuild then piss and moan when they make a change.

 

PTR

 

A change to what, exactly? Further mediocrity? You confuse CHANGE with POSITIVE CHANGE... and these moves are about as positive as an arrow through the chest.

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They will naturally fall to the old reasoning of "There goes Sully again, always negative and trying to stir the pot".

 

If Justice is blind, then Bills fans who can't see the truth in this are blind, deaf, and many other things...

 

No, Im not blind and Im not a Kool-aid drinker. I dont like the Bills losing, and I dont need Sullivan to keep shoving what I already know down my throat. It's boring, old, and uninformative.

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FWIW, Chan is going to be on Sirius right now and they're going to ask about the Lee trade. Though, clearly, everyone here already knows what the real deal is - one way or another...

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this article is 5 years too late.. We bottomed with Jauron/Brandon at the helm and we're being rebuilt with Nix/Gailey...

 

 

I'm happy with the team as it is being built now... 2 solid drafts and a completely revamped defense has got me liking our future

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A change to what, exactly? Further mediocrity? You confuse CHANGE with POSITIVE CHANGE... and these moves are about as positive as an arrow through the chest.

 

Bills are still 0-0 but apparently you have a crystal ball and know they are going to lose every game. You need to get to Vegas.

 

PTR

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You honestly havent seen them yet? It was at least 2 interviews going back to April, I believe. I'll see if I can dig them up from the board. But it's been WELL documented.

April of this year, 2011. Hes said for the past year.

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Unless the Evans trade was a conspiracy one FULL year in the making, to assume anything else is strictly conjecture. Gailey spent the better part of a year saying...PUBLICLY...SEVERAL times...that he wasn't satisfied with this element of Evans game (or lack there of).

 

"I want a water bug" --- we draft Spiller

"We need to get bigger" --- we draft Dareus

"Maybin needs to improve" --- he gets cut

"Evans can't come over the middle"--- he gets traded

 

WHY DO WE TREAT EVERYTHING LIKE IT'S A DAMN MYSTERY!?

:thumbsup:

 

Probably because too many people are still too busy reading Sully's pieces to actually pay attention to what's going on. It's easier that way. No need to think.

 

The Steelers didn't cut Heinz Ward because he runs all the patterns and is one of the elite blocking wideouts in the league. Lee Evans did neither well. Why come here if you hate the Bills so much, you must enjoy playing devil's advocate and annoying fans who want to wait to at least the first game before we label this team as terrible.

Who ees thees "Heinz Ward"? And why did they name their stadium after him?

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No, Im not blind and Im not a Kool-aid drinker. I dont like the Bills losing, and I dont need Sullivan to keep shoving what I already know down my throat. It's boring, old, and uninformative.

 

Exactly. Sully and his parrot friends here should take a break.

Fer Cripes sakes, the season hasn't started and people are pissing themselves with critiques on how ugly their prom date is.

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Thankfully I can recognize a Sullivan article by the title, and did not click the link from the TBD homepage.

 

What a shocker, Jerry cut and pasted the same article that he's been writing for 5 years and used it on the morning of the NFL Season Opener! Amazing!

 

Does Jerry even write anymore, or does he just cue up his same rant over and over?

 

Not that I care all that much, I stopped reading his uninteresting drivel years ago.

 

 

 

Except that you completely ignore the point of his post, which was that the guys in charge now (Nix/Gailey/Whaley) have only been in place for 2 years, which completely undermines your "fix".

 

But once again I'm shocked that you'd take any chance to bash the organization.

 

Shocked I tell you.

I was following the same MO until I clicked the link - there was no "sullivan" in the link as it usually has been. Perhaps they've caught on and are doing that to add 'clicks' to his articles?

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Isn't when you rebuild a team you rebuild one that sucks? I am sorry but during a rebuilding you gut the old parts that have no use. I think that the philsophy Nix has employed is a good one even if he made some moves I don't agree with all the moves he has made(Cutting Handy, drafting Spiller, and trading Lee for a 4th). There is a lot of roster turnover in the NFL get over it.

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I agree.

 

But what does this have to do with the Evans trade?

 

What was he top of again?

He was at top of the list of wide recievers the Bills have had for one.

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