Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 4, 2011 Posted September 4, 2011 (edited) Last year after the cuts to the 53 man roster, we had a number of players on the roster I had little opinion of....Shawn Nelson, McCargo, Maybin, Ayodele, Torbor, Youboty. ( I can't remember exactly when Cornell Green was signed) We have a rather young team and they're gonna make mistakes. Some of our unproven new players may prove no better than the above. Overall, though, I feel the 53 men on the roster are a significant step up from last year. We're still thin or inexperienced in depth. We're depending on some key players to stay healthy. I feel a lot of dead wood has been pruned from the tree and I think the players overall have the message: Bring it, or we'll find someone else who can. Does this mean I'm "drinking the kool-aid" or just a realistic (albeit positive) assessment? Edited September 4, 2011 by Hopeful
vincec Posted September 4, 2011 Posted September 4, 2011 (edited) Overall, though, I feel the 53 men on the roster are a significant step up from last year. I think that it's a step up but overall I don't think that it's that significant. The defense is definitely improved but I think the offense will regress slightly from last season. The overall end product will be slightly better. Edited September 4, 2011 by vincec
Rico Posted September 4, 2011 Posted September 4, 2011 (edited) Still too early to say for sure, but right now I would say better. Lil Donte, Pos, and Stroud have been upgraded. Probably downgraded by losing Evans, but I'm hoping Fitz will be even better as a starter from Day 1. Overall depth looks improved. As for the OL, who the hell really knows? ETA: Can't believe I forgot Merriman, HUGE upgrade over Torbor if he can stay healthy. Edited September 4, 2011 by Rico
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 4, 2011 Author Posted September 4, 2011 Still too early to say for sure, but right now I would say better. Lil Donte, Pos, and Stroud have been upgraded. Probably downgraded by losing Evans, but I'm hoping Fitz will be even better as a starter from Day 1. Overall depth looks improved. As for the OL, who the hell really knows? Don't know how bad Jags line was the fact that Fitzy stayed clean in that game seems positlve.
Boludo Posted September 4, 2011 Posted September 4, 2011 post the two rosters side by side, grouped by position then people can grade out +/- by each unit
Rico Posted September 4, 2011 Posted September 4, 2011 Don't know how bad Jags line was the fact that Fitzy stayed clean in that game seems positlve. I think 3 of their DL starters didn't play though.
altruisticbillsfan Posted September 4, 2011 Posted September 4, 2011 (edited) A step up (from the bottom) but I believe Kelsay is still on the team, how can that be. I thought after Antonio Coleman's preformance in the preseason would have been enough to ship off Kelsay to the junk yard, but nope, the clueless wonder boy is still here. Edited September 4, 2011 by altruisticbillsfan
Captain Hindsight Posted September 4, 2011 Posted September 4, 2011 The defense is much improved and much bigger. The offense too is bigger. This team wont get puched around anymore and that alone makes us better
BillsObserver Posted September 4, 2011 Posted September 4, 2011 Lets put it this way - If you were to play this year's opening day roster against last year's opening day roster, 2011 team would destroy those guys (mostly due to Trent starting and the defense being weaker in 2010)
Dr. K Posted September 4, 2011 Posted September 4, 2011 Overall I'm encouraged by the new roster. I was not happy about the Lee Evans trade, and the o-line seems thin to me, and we're depending on some key players like Merriman to stay healthy. But I like the general direction, the turn to younger players, the willingness to prune unproductive players. Though I don't want him in pass coverage, I think the knee-jerk Kelsay haters are out of line. And there are young players behind him who may move up and take his place. In general, I like that the most--if any significant number of these young guys improve with experience, we could have the makings of a first rate team here. At any rate, I'm looking forward to seeing what happens when the real games start.
vincec Posted September 4, 2011 Posted September 4, 2011 Lets put it this way - If you were to play this year's opening day roster against last year's opening day roster, 2011 team would destroy those guys (mostly due to Trent starting and the defense being weaker in 2010) Can't argue with that.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 4, 2011 Author Posted September 4, 2011 post the two rosters side by side, grouped by position then people can grade out +/- by each unit Great idea, go for it! Can't wait for your post!
BillyBaroo Posted September 4, 2011 Posted September 4, 2011 Dareus and Merriman alone make it better - they seem to me to be the only 2 in the last couple of years that will be considered "great players" and get some respect
Defend Greece Posted September 5, 2011 Posted September 5, 2011 I would be happy with it if had kept cole An instead of kelsay and Roosevelt over who?vell Martin Dareus and Merriman alone make it better - they seem to me to be the only 2 in the last couple of years that will be considered "great players" and get some respect 95?
DonInBuffalo Posted September 5, 2011 Posted September 5, 2011 Here's a breakdown of the changes: QB Thigpen, Smith Edwards, Brohm RB J. White Lynch WR Easley, R. Martin Evans TE Chandler, Painalto Stupar, (S. Nelson) OL C. Brown, Hairston, Rinehart, Pears Hangartner, Green, Howard, Meredith, Wang DL Dareus, Heard Stroud, McCargo LB Eddins, Merriman, Barnett, Sheppard, Morrison, C. White Ellis, Ellison, Maybin, Ayodele, Torbor, Coleman DB A. Williams, Rogers, Searcy Whitner, Youboty, Corner, C. Harris certainly looks like an upgrade on the defensive side
BillyBaroo Posted September 5, 2011 Posted September 5, 2011 Here's a breakdown of the changes: QB Thigpen, Smith Edwards, Brohm RB J. White Lynch WR Easley, R. Martin Evans TE Chandler, Painalto Stupar, (S. Nelson) OL C. Brown, Hairston, Rinehart, Pears Hangartner, Green, Howard, Meredith, Wang DL Dareus, Heard Stroud, McCargo LB Eddins, Merriman, Barnett, Sheppard, Morrison, C. White Ellis, Ellison, Maybin, Ayodele, Torbor, Coleman DB A. Williams, Rogers, Searcy Whitner, Youboty, Corner, C. Harris certainly looks like an upgrade on the defensive side You forgot Special Teams
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