DrDawkinstein Posted August 31, 2011 Posted August 31, 2011 (edited) Here is my edited final roster. I'm only keeping 5 WRs because Smith and Spiller can also be used out wide. My most notable cut is probably Kelsay. Keeping 3 TEs for Special Teams play. I still dont know who that 4th OT will be, but I want to add someone... Jasper goes to PS, that's my only notable PS member. Whatever other rookies end up there, fine. P - Moorman K - Lindell LS - Whoever QB - Fitz, Thigpen, Smith RB - Jackson, Spiller, White FB - McIntyre TE - Chandler, Caussin, Martin WR - Johnson, Parrish, Nelson, Easley, Jones C - Wood, Hangartner G - Levitre, Rhinehart, Urbik OT - Bell, Pears, Hairston, +1 DL - Dareus, Williams, Edwards, Johnson, Troup, Heard OLB - Merriman, Batten, Carrington, Coleman, Moats ILB - Barnett, Davis, Morrison, Sheppard, White CB - Florence, McGee, McKelvin, Williams, Corner FS - Byrd, Corto SS - Wilson, Searcy, Scott Edited August 31, 2011 by DrDareustein
bladiebla Posted August 31, 2011 Posted August 31, 2011 Quarterback (3): Ryan Fitzpatrick, Tyler Thigpen, Brad Smith Running Back (3): Fred Jackson, C.J. Spiller, Johnny White Fullback (1): Corey McIntyre Wide Receiver (6): Stevie Johnson, Donald Jones, Roscoe Parrish, David Nelson, Marcus Easley, Rooseveldt Tight End (2): Scott Chandler, Mike Caussin Offensive Line (9): Demetrius Bell, Erik Pears, Chris Hairston, Ed Wang, Eric Wood, Andy Levitre, Chad Rinehart, Kraig Urbik, Geoff Hangartner Defensive Line (7): Marcell Dareus, Alex Carrington, Kyle Williams, Torell Troup, Dwan Edwards, Spencer Johnson, Kellen Heard Linebacker (9): Andra Davis, Kelvin Sheppard, Chris White, Chris Kelsay, Nick Barnett, Arthur Moats, Danny Batten, Shawne Merriman, Kirk Morrison Cornerback (6): Leodis McKelvin, Drayton Florence, Terrence McGee, Aaron Williams, Reggie Corner, Justin Rogers Safety (4): Jairus Byrd, George Wilson, Da'Norris Searcy, Bryan Scott Punter (1): Brian Moorman Kicker (1): Rian Lindell Long Snapper (1): Danny Aiken PS: Antiono Coleman Jammie Kirlew Kamar Aiken Joshua Nesbitt Lionel Dotson Michael Jasper 2x waiverwire OL pickup I put Jasper on the roster as the inactive project, Jon Corto and Felton Huggins have basicly been the heart of our special teams the last couple of years, one of them could still make the team with Jasper getting cut. Building through the draft also means that they arent going to cut their draft picks, Wang will get another year. Spots I had/have doubts over are Bryan Scott, Michael Jasper, Ed Wang; I think Danny Aiken has Sanborn beat. Rooseveldt will survive the waiverwire (due to his measureables) where as Easley as 107th overall in 2010 draft is too valueable/risky to cut. Justin Rogers makes the roster simply because 9 DBS isnt enough and he's a Nix/Gailey draft pick. 5 WR's since Brad Smith basicly is #6 WR, 2 TE's since we dont use 2 TE sets. 5 WR's even adding BSmith sounds too few for a team using 4 WR sets. How about adding Roosevelt or Aiken and deleting a D-line guy? Jeah I was struggling with that especially with just 2 TE's... I wanted to keep Jasper on the roster though. More I think about it more I think Jasper will be cut, he's just too raw atm. Waive Jasper and add Rooseveldt. Aiken still goes to PS. Updated quoted roster to reflect change.
Matt in KC Posted August 31, 2011 Posted August 31, 2011 Jeah I was struggling with that especially with just 2 TE's... I wanted to keep Jasper on the roster though. More I think about it more I think Jasper will be cut, he's just too raw atm. Waive Jasper and add Rooseveldt. Aiken still goes to PS. Updated quoted roster to reflect change. I think your list is pretty close. Just curious: why Justin Rogers instead of Corto? Corto has been very good on special teams and seeing how raw Searcy looks keeping just 3 others seems pretty "thin". I agree, looking at who we'd have to cut, I can't see Jasper making the team. Also, it's hard to justify Wang making the team. He was was "only" a 5th round pick last year. I'd risk trying to move him to the PS. I know other teams do not have film of him looking good.... I could also really see Eddins making the PS.
bladiebla Posted August 31, 2011 Posted August 31, 2011 While I would LOVE to add both Felton Huggins (who may be sneaked to IR again with his concussion) and Jon Corto I simply believe current ST rules makes it too costly to carry more then a LS, Kicker and Punter. Jon Corto is a converted LB (undersized) without experience at SS. Then keep in mind Nickel, Dime and Prevent packages and you'll need 5 CB's plus 1 on your roster. If you look what the coaching regime did last year then you'll see that they carried 6 CBS and 4 Safeties. Now if they trust Corto enough to be able to handle a SS spot in Dime and Quarter packages then I see them dropping Rogers to the PS and keeping Corto. So basicly it's a toss-up which depends on the coaching philosphy. Personally I'm a firm believer in using CBS to cover WRs and rather compromise by having a CB cover a TE over carrying an extra SS resulting in a SS covering a WR. Another solution could be to have WRs fill that role if such is needed. Rogers being a draft pick of this regime tipped the scales for me into selecting him over Corto. We traded Lynch for "only" a 5th... Wang has been injured all last year so this really is his rookie year, he's defenitly a project but I dont see them giving up on him yet. Especially if you take the build through the draft philosphy at heart. Then again your assesment that he has looked horrible is pretty much spot-on; he may indeed clear waivers and go to PS in which case I see his spot filled by Howard.
Matt in KC Posted August 31, 2011 Posted August 31, 2011 While I would LOVE to add both Felton Huggins (who may be sneaked to IR again with his concussion) and Jon Corto I simply believe current ST rules makes it too costly to carry more then a LS, Kicker and Punter. Jon Corto is a converted LB (undersized) without experience at SS. Then keep in mind Nickel, Dime and Prevent packages and you'll need 5 CB's plus 1 on your roster. If you look what the coaching regime did last year then you'll see that they carried 6 CBS and 4 Safeties. Now if they trust Corto enough to be able to handle a SS spot in Dime and Quarter packages then I see them dropping Rogers to the PS and keeping Corto. So basicly it's a toss-up which depends on the coaching philosphy. Personally I'm a firm believer in using CBS to cover WRs and rather compromise by having a CB cover a TE over carrying an extra SS resulting in a SS covering a WR. Another solution could be to have WRs fill that role if such is needed. Rogers being a draft pick of this regime tipped the scales for me into selecting him over Corto. We traded Lynch for "only" a 5th... Wang has been injured all last year so this really is his rookie year, he's defenitly a project but I dont see them giving up on him yet. Especially if you take the build through the draft philosphy at heart. Then again your assesment that he has looked horrible is pretty much spot-on; he may indeed clear waivers and go to PS in which case I see his spot filled by Howard. Thanks for the thought-filled response! I'd agree with you about Rogers and Corto, except for the depth chart, which lists no one behind Byrd at free safety but Corto (and Joshua Nesbitt) *gulp*. Also, there's a big difference carrying 4 safeties if we had Donte instead of Searcy in terms of quality. We appear to be short one CB if they drop Rogers, and another if like me you think Corner is a liability. As far as your Huggins comment goes... I like him too, but would you really want to keep him instead of Aiken? I think he's serviceable, but already near his performance ceiling.
bladiebla Posted August 31, 2011 Posted August 31, 2011 (edited) Thanks for the thought-filled response! I'd agree with you about Rogers and Corto, except for the depth chart, which lists no one behind Byrd at free safety but Corto (and Joshua Nesbitt) *gulp*. Also, there's a big difference carrying 4 safeties if we had Donte instead of Searcy in terms of quality. We appear to be short one CB if they drop Rogers, and another if like me you think Corner is a liability. As far as your Huggins comment goes... I like him too, but would you really want to keep him instead of Aiken? I think he's serviceable, but already near his performance ceiling. Dont forget Huggins has proven himself as ST player as much if not more then Corto has, granted he was off the radar last year due to being IR-ed. Wilson can also play FS, imo better then at the SS posistion tbh. Aiken will be a victim of the numbers game, I think the coaches have stated that they like Rooseveldt for his ability to catch it all his experience from last year added on top of that wins him the position over Aiken (if there is a posistion to be won). Bottomline is the list is as good as I can argument it to be but it does contain gambles. I have Danny Aiken beating out Garrison Sanborn for the LS job which is more based on early camp info then actually judging his play myself (plus he is getting the same amount of reps as Sanborn does another indicator that the battle is still very much on). Not having a ST guy on there is another as was pointed out, isnt 9 lbs a bit much (then again with 3-4 and 4-3, rotation, grooming and veteran talent attracted I could not see it be done with less. OL depth is thin, with crazy competition going for LT/LG. Will we indeed just carry 2 TEs, last year we still took 3. I went 6 CBs but does the quality of our secondary really warrant that choice? Saturday will tell it all. I do firmly believe that I have nailed at least 50 out of the 53 though. Btw: Hairstone taking reps at LT tomorrow is an indication that Wang may indeed be on his way out; if Hairstone proves himself as viable swingtackle then Wang is out with Levitri emergency depth at LT if Hairstone is allready filling out RT due to Pears being out. I wonder if Levitri has lost his starting guard posistion to Rhinehart. A lot the coaches may be doing here atm might be related to being able to solve injuries from within the OL group itself instead having to call in a new PS kid from another team week in and out. Edited August 31, 2011 by bladiebla
Armchair GM Posted August 31, 2011 Posted August 31, 2011 (edited) My 53: 2 Quarterbacks - Cutting Levi Brown Agreed 14 Ryan Fitzpatrick 4 Tyler Thigpen (Brad Smith is the 3rd QB) 4 Running Backs - Cutting Jehuu Caulcrick FB, Bruce Hall. [/b[b]]#4 would be White, correct? 22 Fred Jackson 28 C. J. Spiller 38 Corey McIntyre FB 8 Wide Receivers - Cutting Buster Davis I'd replace Martin with Aiken... 13 Steve Johnson 19 Donald Jones 86 David Nelson 11 Roscoe Parrish 18 Naaman Roosevelt 16 Brad Smith WR/QB 83 Ruvell Martin 81 Marcus Easley 2 Tight Ends - Surprise Cut of Shawn Nelson, Cutting Mike Caussin Agreed 84 Scott Chandler 80 David Martin 10 Offensive Linemen- Cutting Michael Switzer C, Ed Wang T, Cordaro Howard T, Jason Watkins T Replace Wrotto with Howard 77 Demetrius Bell T 74 Colin Brown T 75 Chris Hairston T 61 Mansfield Wrotto T 79 Erik Pears T 70 Eric Wood C/G 63 Geoff Hangartner C 67 Andy Levitre G 76 Chad Rinehart G 60 Kraig Urbik G 7 Defensive Linemen- Cutting T. J. Langley DE Agreed, sadly Jasper misses the cut, hopefully PS and no one picks him up 92 Alex Carrington DE 99 Marcell Dareus DE 98 Dwan Edwards DE 91 Spencer Johnson DE 95 Kyle Williams NT 72 Kellen Heard NT 96 Torell Troup NT 9 Linebackers- Surprise (!)Cut Chris Kelsey, Cutting Brandon Hicks ILB, Jammie Kirlew OLB/DE, Brad Jefferson ILB Agreed...LOVE IT! Sorry Kelsay, you're a good guy, just not enough of an upside, or talent to keep you around anymore. 50 Nick Barnett ILB 54 Andra Davis ILB 55 Kelvin Sheppard ILB 58 Kirk Morrison ILB 56 Shawne Merriman OLB 57 Danny Batten OLB 52 Arthur Moats OLB/DE 48 Robert Eddins OLB 59 Antonio Coleman OLB 9 Defensive Backs - Cutting Doyle Miller CB, Sidney Glover SS, Reggie Corner CB I don't think Corto makes it...Aaron Williams can play both positions, so I'd like to see them keep Reggie Corner around as an extra DB 31 Jairus Byrd FS 33 Jon Corto FS 43 Bryan Scott SS 25 Da'Norris Searcy SS 37 George Wilson SS 29 Drayton Florence CB 24 Terrence McGee CB 23 Aaron Williams CB 21 Leodis McKelvin CB 3 Special Teams- Cutting Danny Aiken 65 Garrison Sanborn LS 9 Rian Lindell K 8 Brian Moorman P 8 Practice Squad 47 Joshua Nesbitt FS/QB/RB 87 Zach Pianalto 88 Kamar Aiken WR 15 Felton Huggins WR 69 Michael Jasper NT 97 Lionel Dotson DE 94 Chris White ILB 35 Johnny White RB Nope, he'll make the squad...replace with Elzy, who will get picked up elsewhere and eventually become a very good NFL back Edited September 1, 2011 by Armchair GM
CBD Posted August 31, 2011 Posted August 31, 2011 We traded Lynch for "only" a 5th... They traded Lynch for a 4th and a 2012 conditional pick
Defend Greece Posted September 1, 2011 Posted September 1, 2011 Why doesn't anybody have eddins on their list?
Doc Posted September 1, 2011 Posted September 1, 2011 (edited) After looking at last year's roster, I'm changing mine a little: Quarterback (3): Ryan Fitzpatrick, Tyler Thigpen, Brad Smith Running Back (3): Fred Jackson, C.J. Spiller, Johnny White Fullback (1): Corey McIntyre Wide Receiver (6): Stevie Johnson, Donald Jones, Marcus Easley, David Nelson, Roscoe Parrish, Naaman Roosevelt Tight End (2): Scott Chandler, Mike Caussin Offensive Tackle (4): Demetrius Bell, Erik Pears, Chris Hairston, Ed Wang Offensive Guard/Center (5): Eric Wood, Andy Levitre, Chad Rinehart, Kraig Urbik, Geoff Hangartner Defensive End (4): Marcell Dareus, Dwan Edwards, Alex Carrington, Spencer Johnson Defensive Tackle (3): Kyle Williams, Torell Troup, Michael Jasper Outside Linebacker (5): Chris Kelsay, Shawne Merriman, Danny Batten, Antonio Coleman, Arthur Moats Inside Linebacker (5): Nick Barnett, Kirk Morrison, Andra Davis, Kelvin Sheppard, Chris White Cornerback (5): Leodis McKelvin, Drayton Florence, Terrence McGee, Aaron Williams, Reggie Corner Safety (4): Jairus Byrd, George Wilson, Da'Norris Searcy, Jon Corto Punter (1): Brian Moorman Kicker (1): Rian Lindell Long Snapper (1): Garrison Sanborn PS: Aiken, Pianalto, Forrest, Elzy, Heard (or Jasper if Heard makes the roster), Rogers, Eddins, Nesbitt Compared to last year's opening day roster, mine has 1 more WR at the expense of 1 fewer safety, and 1 more DT/NT at the expense of 1 fewer DE. Edited September 1, 2011 by Doc
Ghost of Leonidas Posted September 1, 2011 Posted September 1, 2011 QB: Fitz, Thigpen, Smith RB: Jackson, Spiller, White FB: McIntyre WR: Johnson, Jones, Easley, Nelson, Parrish, Roosevelt (and Smith) TE: Chandler, Martin, Nelson (one of the last ones I added, but having 3 TE's isn't unheard of, and Nelson's upside is still off the charts) OT: Bell, Hairston, Pears, Howard (can play guard in a pinch) OG: Levitre, Rinehart, Urbik C: Wood, Hangartner DE: Dareus, Johnson, Edwards DT: Williams, Troup, Heard (haven't seen Jasper make any plays to warrant him making the team this season) OLB: Batten, Moats, Merriman, Carrington, Kelsay ILB: Barnett, Morrison, Sheppard, Davis CB: McKelvin, McGee, Florence, Williams, Corner (although I'm not a fan of Corner, as a 5th corner I suppose he'll suffice) S: Byrd, Wilson, Searcy, Scott, Corto (ST) K: Lindell P: Moorman LS: Sanborn Did I miss anybody?
bladiebla Posted September 1, 2011 Posted September 1, 2011 (edited) They traded Lynch for a 4th and a 2012 conditional pick *oopsy* my bad. Kinda makes you think though... we got more in return for Lynch then for Evans.... o.0 Why doesn't anybody have eddins on their list? ? Armchair GM has him on his list? Main reason is because we have so many lbs plus a lot of draft spots invested. Edited September 1, 2011 by bladiebla
sarmanuscg07 Posted September 1, 2011 Posted September 1, 2011 QB (3): Fitz, Thigpen, Smith RB (3): Jackson, Spiller, White FB (1): McIntyre WR (6): Johnson, Jones, Easley, Nelson, Parrish, Aiken OL (9): Bell, Levitre, Wood, Urbik, Pears, Rhinehart, Hairston, Howard, Hangartner TE (2): Chandler, Martin DL (7): Dareus, Williams, Edwards, Carrington, Troup, Johnson, Heard LB (9): Merriman, Barnett, Eddins, Davis, Moats, Morrison, Batten, Coleman, Sheppard DB (10): McGee, McKelvin, Florence, Williams, Corner, Wilson, Scott, Searcy, Byrd P (1): Moorman K (1): Lindell LS (1): Sanborn A few posts have us only keeping 4 CBs??? Thats doubtful, if anything 6 is much more of a possibility.
Matt in KC Posted September 1, 2011 Posted September 1, 2011 QB (3): Fitz, Thigpen, Smith RB (3): Jackson, Spiller, White FB (1): McIntyre WR (6): Johnson, Jones, Easley, Nelson, Parrish, Aiken OL (9): Bell, Levitre, Wood, Urbik, Pears, Rhinehart, Hairston, Howard, Hangartner TE (2): Chandler, Martin DL (7): Dareus, Williams, Edwards, Carrington, Troup, Johnson, Heard LB (9): Merriman, Barnett, Eddins, Davis, Moats, Morrison, Batten, Coleman, Sheppard DB (10): McGee, McKelvin, Florence, Williams, Corner, Wilson, Scott, Searcy, Byrd P (1): Moorman K (1): Lindell LS (1): Sanborn A few posts have us only keeping 4 CBs??? Thats doubtful, if anything 6 is much more of a possibility. Like a couple of other posters, you only list 9 DBs, but have it labeled 10. Add Corto?
Astrobot Posted September 2, 2011 Author Posted September 2, 2011 Here is SB Nation's 53 man depth chart. http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2011/9/2/2400170/buffalo-bills-53-man-roster-projection-2011
EasternOHBillsFan Posted September 2, 2011 Posted September 2, 2011 THE BMOREBILLS FIFTY THREE: 2 Quarterbacks. 14 Ryan Fitzpatrick 4 Tyler Thigpen (Brad Smith is the 3rd QB) 4 Running Backs. 22 Fred Jackson 28 C. J. Spiller 38 Corey McIntyre FB 7 Wide Receivers. (Ruvell Martin and Naaman Roosevelt won't make it) 85 Buster Davis 13 Steve Johnson 19 Donald Jones 86 David Nelson 11 Roscoe Parrish 16 Brad Smith WR/QB 81 Marcus Easley 3 Tight Ends. (I can't see them getting rid of any of our TEs other than Nelson) 82 Mike Caussin 84 Scott Chandler 80 David Martin 10 Offensive Linemen. 77 Demetrius Bell T 74 Colin Brown T 75 Chris Hairston T 61 Mansfield Wrotto T 79 Erik Pears T 70 Eric Wood C/G 63 Geoff Hangartner C 67 Andy Levitre G 76 Chad Rinehart G 60 Kraig Urbik G 7 Defensive Linemen. 92 Alex Carrington DE 99 Marcell Dareus DE 98 Dwan Edwards DE 91 Spencer Johnson DE 95 Kyle Williams NT 72 Kellen Heard NT 96 Torell Troup NT 9 Linebackers. 50 Nick Barnett ILB 54 Andra Davis ILB 90 Chris Kelsay OLB 55 Kelvin Sheppard ILB 58 Kirk Morrison ILB 56 Shawne Merriman OLB 57 Danny Batten OLB 52 Arthur Moats OLB/DE 59 Antonio Coleman OLB 9 Defensive Backs. 31 Jairus Byrd FS 33 Jon Corto FS 43 Bryan Scott SS 37 George Wilson SS 27 Reggie Corner CB 29 Drayton Florence CB 24 Terrence McGee CB 23 Aaron Williams CB 21 Leodis McKelvin CB 3 Special Teams. 65 Garrison Sanborn LS 9 Rian Lindell K 8 Brian Moorman P 8 Practice Squad 47 Joshua Nesbitt FS/QB/RB 87 Zach Pianalto 88 Kamar Aiken WR 25 Da'Norris Searcy SS 69 Michael Jasper NT 48 Robert Eddins OLB 94 Chris White ILB 35 Johnny White RB
Matt in KC Posted September 2, 2011 Posted September 2, 2011 THE BMOREBILLS FIFTY THREE: 2 Quarterbacks. 14 Ryan Fitzpatrick 4 Tyler Thigpen (Brad Smith is the 3rd QB) 4 Running Backs. 22 Fred Jackson 28 C. J. Spiller 38 Corey McIntyre FB 7 Wide Receivers. (Ruvell Martin and Naaman Roosevelt won't make it) 85 Buster Davis 13 Steve Johnson 19 Donald Jones 86 David Nelson 11 Roscoe Parrish 16 Brad Smith WR/QB 81 Marcus Easley 3 Tight Ends. (I can't see them getting rid of any of our TEs other than Nelson) 82 Mike Caussin 84 Scott Chandler 80 David Martin 10 Offensive Linemen. 77 Demetrius Bell T 74 Colin Brown T 75 Chris Hairston T 61 Mansfield Wrotto T 79 Erik Pears T 70 Eric Wood C/G 63 Geoff Hangartner C 67 Andy Levitre G 76 Chad Rinehart G 60 Kraig Urbik G 7 Defensive Linemen. 92 Alex Carrington DE 99 Marcell Dareus DE 98 Dwan Edwards DE 91 Spencer Johnson DE 95 Kyle Williams NT 72 Kellen Heard NT 96 Torell Troup NT 9 Linebackers. 50 Nick Barnett ILB 54 Andra Davis ILB 90 Chris Kelsay OLB 55 Kelvin Sheppard ILB 58 Kirk Morrison ILB 56 Shawne Merriman OLB 57 Danny Batten OLB 52 Arthur Moats OLB/DE 59 Antonio Coleman OLB 9 Defensive Backs. 31 Jairus Byrd FS 33 Jon Corto FS 43 Bryan Scott SS 37 George Wilson SS 27 Reggie Corner CB 29 Drayton Florence CB 24 Terrence McGee CB 23 Aaron Williams CB 21 Leodis McKelvin CB 3 Special Teams. 65 Garrison Sanborn LS 9 Rian Lindell K 8 Brian Moorman P 8 Practice Squad 47 Joshua Nesbitt FS/QB/RB 87 Zach Pianalto 88 Kamar Aiken WR 25 Da'Norris Searcy SS 69 Michael Jasper NT 48 Robert Eddins OLB 94 Chris White ILB 35 Johnny White RB Wow, so you think the Bills are going to cut 5 of their last 6 draft picks from this year?
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