San-O Posted August 21, 2011 Posted August 21, 2011 Cosidering the fact that McKelvin was an 11th pick overall, going into his 4th year in the league,would you consider him a bust? Our first round selections in recent years have been very disappointing , to say the least. Yes, he's bad. Another bust. Opposing offenses/QBs go after this guy when he's on the field, which is all you really need to know. He costs the team games.
BillnutinHouston Posted August 21, 2011 Posted August 21, 2011 When was the last time you saw McKelvin deflect a pass? Reggie Corner seems to do it regularly. Have you listed to McKelvin speak? Not much brainpower there.
Mr. WEO Posted August 21, 2011 Posted August 21, 2011 Technically, he can't be a bust because it's not his fault he was drafted at #11. Is that right? Whitner lovers, help me out with the script on this one please.
KD in CA Posted August 21, 2011 Posted August 21, 2011 On any other team he's a bust, but since in Buffalo he gets to be compared to Maybin, Losman, McCargo, etc. he only looks somewhat disappointing.
BillsVet Posted August 21, 2011 Posted August 21, 2011 Technically, he can't be a bust because it's not his fault he was drafted at #11. Is that right? Whitner lovers, help me out with the script on this one please. Awesome.
billsfan89 Posted August 21, 2011 Posted August 21, 2011 Bust no but far from living up to his draft billing. The guy has managed to stay on the roster and play decently at times. This season he is going to have to show something as far as being a productive NFL corner goes or else he is going the way of Donte.
uncle flap Posted August 21, 2011 Posted August 21, 2011 jeez. mckelvin isnt on his way to the HOF, but he's solid. most CBs throughout the league arent expected to cover for 5-6 seconds which is what happens with a pathetic pass rush. dont let his special teams mistakes cloud your judgement on his CB skills. again, hes not an all star by any means, but i dont see why hes the target of all this criticism. i agree with the consensus that the higher a player is picked, the higher the expectations become, but i wouldnt call him a bust. 4 interceptions in 35 regular season games INTs dont gauge a DBs skills that well. asomugah and other elite corners typically have unimpressive stats bc they arent thrown on often. i know mckelvin isnt an elite corner, but stats usually dont tell the whole story. poz had a million tackles, but thats due to the defense's inability to get off the field. fitz gets an INT on his stat sheet last night bc easley dropped a ball. i could go on...
Erik Posted August 21, 2011 Posted August 21, 2011 4 interceptions in 35 regular season games Didn't he have three in one game too? That would be 1 in 34 games then.
San-O Posted August 21, 2011 Posted August 21, 2011 jeez. mckelvin isnt on his way to the HOF, but he's solid. most CBs throughout the league arent expected to cover for 5-6 seconds which is what happens with a pathetic pass rush. dont let his special teams mistakes cloud your judgement on his CB skills. again, hes not an all star by any means, but i dont see why hes the target of all this criticism. i agree with the consensus that the higher a player is picked, the higher the expectations become, but i wouldnt call him a bust. INTs dont gauge a DBs skills that well. asomugah and other elite corners typically have unimpressive stats bc they arent thrown on often. i know mckelvin isnt an elite corner, but stats usually dont tell the whole story. poz had a million tackles, but thats due to the defense's inability to get off the field. fitz gets an INT on his stat sheet last night bc easley dropped a ball. i could go on... Mrs. MvLuvin?
BuffaloRebound Posted August 21, 2011 Posted August 21, 2011 In my non-expert opinion, McKelvin has good coverage ability but poor ball skills.
dpberr Posted August 21, 2011 Posted August 21, 2011 I've never thought McKelvin was smart enough to be a top-notch CB. You need to be both intelligent and technically sound to play that position. McKelvin has always lacked those intangibles, even at Troy. You read the negatives on him at the draft...it's all about needing to be more alert, must refine technique, must learn how to predict the play, etc.
3rdand12 Posted August 21, 2011 Posted August 21, 2011 after last night i am again done with him, he gets beat and its ugly. he should be the #4 cb
billybrew1 Posted August 21, 2011 Posted August 21, 2011 Levitre is average sized at best. Bell is small and weak. Yes. McKelvin is an absolute bust for a #11. Seriously, what would even raise this question. Do you have any doubt at all that he is a bust, and a stupid draft selection? Mckelvin..... I thought he looked like we finally got one right after his rookie year, then he blew out his knee, then the fumble happened and then last year he just played like a nancy. Such are the fortunes of players drafted by the cursed Bills.
Pirate Angel Posted August 21, 2011 Posted August 21, 2011 how long until we move Mcgee back to the outside??
SoggyHog Posted August 21, 2011 Posted August 21, 2011 Last year, when Nix and his regime took over, the Bills were essentially an expansion caliber team. In another year or two most of the Jauron/Levy/Modrak/Brandon era players will be moved out. The Bills are not going to be a competitive team for the next couple of years until a new nucleus of players is brought in. Could there be an accelerataton of the rebuilding process? It could if the Bills were a normal organization. This is a Ralph Wilson owned franchise. What incentive does he have to invest in the team when the 92 yr old owner has aleady made arrangements to auction off the franchise after his departure. The Bills are very much under their own imposed cash to cap payroll structure. They have been under the that miniscule line for the previous few years and they will follow that stringent policy next year because under the terms of the CBA they will be allowed to get away with that scam. If the owner was a serious owner (clearly he is not) the rebuilding process could be augmented with the addition of more mid-level free agents. That is not going to happen. If there are complaints about the caliber of our starting offensive linemen then what happens when injuries occur? That is a frightening thought. Wang at LT? Are you laughing or crying? Bringing in some serviceable OL backups would have been the right thing to do. It is easy to lament about a particular draft pick or the philosophy of drafting. It is a futile exercise. That isn't the main problem. The truth of the matter is that the real issue is the caliber of ownership and the peculiar way he has staffed and structured this organization. Until there is change at the ownership level then it is like dogs chansing after their own tails. The best way to judge this season is certainly not from a won/lost perspecitve. The most sane way to judge a successful season is to note whether Nix's drafted players (last year's) improve and make a contribution. This year's draft class can be more fairly evaluated next year. When you have a aged, out of town owner who states the obvious that the team lacks talent, then chuckles about it--why would anyone be surprised with the continuation of the status quo. This garbage has been going on for half a century. What do you really expect? Dramatic change? Urgency? Let's get real here. This may be the best post I have ever read!
Da Big Man Posted August 21, 2011 Posted August 21, 2011 McKelvin is most certainly another bust in a long line of busts. They should change their name to the BUFFALO BUSTS.
San-O Posted August 21, 2011 Posted August 21, 2011 Last year, when Nix and his regime took over, the Bills were essentially an expansion caliber team. In another year or two most of the Jauron/Levy/Modrak/Brandon era players will be moved out. The Bills are not going to be a competitive team for the next couple of years until a new nucleus of players is brought in. Could there be an accelerataton of the rebuilding process? It could if the Bills were a normal organization. This is a Ralph Wilson owned franchise. What incentive does he have to invest in the team when the 92 yr old owner has aleady made arrangements to auction off the franchise after his departure. The Bills are very much under their own imposed cash to cap payroll structure. They have been under the that miniscule line for the previous few years and they will follow that stringent policy next year because under the terms of the CBA they will be allowed to get away with that scam. If the owner was a serious owner (clearly he is not) the rebuilding process could be augmented with the addition of more mid-level free agents. That is not going to happen. If there are complaints about the caliber of our starting offensive linemen then what happens when injuries occur? That is a frightening thought. Wang at LT? Are you laughing or crying? Bringing in some serviceable OL backups would have been the right thing to do. It is easy to lament about a particular draft pick or the philosophy of drafting. It is a futile exercise. That isn't the main problem. The truth of the matter is that the real issue is the caliber of ownership and the peculiar way he has staffed and structured this organization. Until there is change at the ownership level then it is like dogs chansing after their own tails. The best way to judge this season is certainly not from a won/lost perspecitve. The most sane way to judge a successful season is to note whether Nix's drafted players (last year's) improve and make a contribution. This year's draft class can be more fairly evaluated next year. When you have a aged, out of town owner who states the obvious that the team lacks talent, then chuckles about it--why would anyone be surprised with the continuation of the status quo. This garbage has been going on for half a century. What do you really expect? Dramatic change? Urgency? Let's get real here. + 1 I would pay $100 or so to have a billboard posted somewhere around town, or a full page add asking for ownership change now.
Pirate Angel Posted August 21, 2011 Posted August 21, 2011 Last year, when Nix and his regime took over, the Bills were essentially an expansion caliber team. In another year or two most of the Jauron/Levy/Modrak/Brandon era players will be moved out. The Bills are not going to be a competitive team for the next couple of years until a new nucleus of players is brought in. Could there be an accelerataton of the rebuilding process? It could if the Bills were a normal organization. This is a Ralph Wilson owned franchise. What incentive does he have to invest in the team when the 92 yr old owner has aleady made arrangements to auction off the franchise after his departure. The Bills are very much under their own imposed cash to cap payroll structure. They have been under the that miniscule line for the previous few years and they will follow that stringent policy next year because under the terms of the CBA they will be allowed to get away with that scam. If the owner was a serious owner (clearly he is not) the rebuilding process could be augmented with the addition of more mid-level free agents. That is not going to happen. If there are complaints about the caliber of our starting offensive linemen then what happens when injuries occur? That is a frightening thought. Wang at LT? Are you laughing or crying? Bringing in some serviceable OL backups would have been the right thing to do. It is easy to lament about a particular draft pick or the philosophy of drafting. It is a futile exercise. That isn't the main problem. The truth of the matter is that the real issue is the caliber of ownership and the peculiar way he has staffed and structured this organization. Until there is change at the ownership level then it is like dogs chansing after their own tails. The best way to judge this season is certainly not from a won/lost perspecitve. The most sane way to judge a successful season is to note whether Nix's drafted players (last year's) improve and make a contribution. This year's draft class can be more fairly evaluated next year. When you have a aged, out of town owner who states the obvious that the team lacks talent, then chuckles about it--why would anyone be surprised with the continuation of the status quo. This garbage has been going on for half a century. What do you really expect? Dramatic change? Urgency? Let's get real here. Remember the Mularky era...or the Bledsoe era...when we did implement mid level free agents..we where better but still no playoffs and lower draft picks. To really turn it around we need a franchise QB and the best way to acquire one is to draft high
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