The Poojer Posted August 10, 2011 Posted August 10, 2011 but we've heard of him...that counts for something....doesn't it???? He's available because he's a mess physically. And no, he's not better than what we have now. PTR
billsfan89 Posted August 10, 2011 Posted August 10, 2011 Pass if anything Shawn Andrews would be a better option.
JStranger76 Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 Andrews on top of his game is also a better player than Clabo as well. When in Philly, he was considered the best guard in the league, and a very good RT since. Don't believe me about the best guard in the league, go check out Haloti Ngata in his first preseason NFL game vs him. Many O-line and D-lone coaches thought that at the time.
coseybedaman Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 (edited) Shawn Andrews is a very very good player. He was supposed to make ridiculous money with the Giants this year, and that was the sole reason they got rid of him. Just like the rest of their Oline that they let go, they are pretty well starting fresh, and Andrews was a big cap hit. In the past, Shawn had issues with clinical depression which can be very serious. Whenever that has been under control in his career (college & pro) he has been an absolute star. He has finally worked out his issues, and got himself on whatever medication is neccesary to keep this from recurring. I would LOVE to have Andrews in Buffalo. Its a pipe dream, but it would really make this line start to be impressive. Andrews on top of his game is also a better player than Clabo as well. When in Philly, he was considered the best guard in the league, and a very good RT since. Don't believe me about the best guard in the league, go check out Haloti Ngata in his first preseason NFL game vs him. Many O-line and D-lone coaches thought that at the time. Edited August 11, 2011 by coseybedaman
JStranger76 Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 Yet some will defend why we aren't taking a good hard look at him. :wallbash:
I hate the Bills ! Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 I know posting this will get lot of you fired up but what about that Tony Washington that nobody drafted last Year, because he was well a perve is saying it nicely...
....lybob Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 Shawn Andrews is a very very good player. He was supposed to make ridiculous money with the Giants this year, and that was the sole reason they got rid of him. Just like the rest of their Oline that they let go, they are pretty well starting fresh, and Andrews was a big cap hit. In the past, Shawn had issues with clinical depression which can be very serious. Whenever that has been under control in his career (college & pro) he has been an absolute star. He has finally worked out his issues, and got himself on whatever medication is neccesary to keep this from recurring. I would LOVE to have Andrews in Buffalo. Its a pipe dream, but it would really make this line start to be impressive. Does Shawn Andrews have any injury or weight problem or was he strictly a cap cut? Max Starks has a neck injury and weight issues Mckinnie has just weight issues maybe age Gaither has back issues Walker has no issues that I know of except not that great Herman Johnson is Huge but I guess he can't play
JStranger76 Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 As far as I know the only issues Andrews ever had were the depression issues. If anyone else knows anything please bring it to light, because this just makes too much sense ( which in itself makes it a typical non-Buffalo Bills move). We like our guys, we think they can develope into other teams practice squad material for a year or two.... :wallbash:
coseybedaman Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 Yes its just been the depression issues, and a "lack of work ethic". Anyone who has ever suffered any kind of depression understands exactly what that is like so they kind of go hand and hand. Andrews is sort of an oddball character, but definitely a very good football player. I doubt we are even interested though. Why bring in a solid veteran tackle when you already have a roster full of scrubs at that position.
3rdand12 Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 eehh, i'm a thinking we Are getting a little concerned after the Bell injury. i think something is in the works, geez i hope so.
jcbillsfan Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 I know it is crazy but lanston walker would provide good depth . I always thought he was slightly below average as a started , but as a expierenced backup what the hell do they have to lose /
Ghost of Rob Johnson Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 (edited) eehh, i'm a thinking we Are getting a little concerned after the Bell injury. i think something is in the works, geez i hope so. Yes its just been the depression issues, and a "lack of work ethic". Anyone who has ever suffered any kind of depression understands exactly what that is like so they kind of go hand and hand. Andrews is sort of an oddball character, but definitely a very good football player. I doubt we are even interested though. Why bring in a solid veteran tackle when you already have a roster full of scrubs at that position. Bell is practicing today, as for Andrews he went MIA on Philadelphia and after returning missed most of the 2008 season with a back injury that eventually required surgery. He then missed all of 2009 after re injuring the back. The injury also flared up mid season last year resulting in hospitalization My link and games missed. This guy sounds as bad or worse than Gaither when it comes to injury history. Edited August 11, 2011 by Ghost of Rob Johnson
JStranger76 Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 Thanks for the link RobJohnson( did i just say that lol). See, before that we didn;t know if their were injury issues too. Still, if he is over them, he'd be a hell of an upgrade!
huddleislegend Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 What about Nick Kaczur? Not at LT but what about at RT?
huddleislegend Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 Well i'm sure he's got a couple handfuls since he was on IR last year. I think if we bring him in we can attract more Canadian fans instead of wasting a home game in Toronto.
BillsVet Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 I'd like Shawn Andrews for RT so we can groom Hairston slowly for the swing tackle role. I think he has a good 5 years left and he played good last year. Supposedly he is past his depression problems as well. Don't know why he isn't getting any looks....anyone know something about that? Buddy already signed Erik Pears, Colin Brown, Mansfield Wrotto, and drafted Chris Hairston along with Ed Wang. I think the OT position is in good shape.
NoSaint Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 Starting to look that Gaither may be done, at least for this year. Whats the rule on passing physicals? Does failing in Oak mean he can't pass anywhere else? McCargo failed in Indy but was back on the roster in Buffalo. Are there legal lability issues for the teams that might be scaring them off? Just salary being paid- one team might risk an injury someone else wouldn't given the paycheck I know posting this will get lot of you fired up but what about that Tony Washington that nobody drafted last Year, because he was well a perve is saying it nicely... Maybe no one really rated his play as high as the kipers/mcshays.... Wouldn't be the first time
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 Honest question because I haven't been to camp: how is Pears looking? You can never have enough linemen but are people just trying to sign players for the sake of signing them? Clabo was a UDFA and bounced around. However on ATL with a committment to him, he became a borderline pro bowl player and the apple of TBD's eye. Gaither is looking for one last payday. He is thought of as lazy and has one of the worst injuires an athlete could have. I guess if it was a cheap enough deal, I'd bring him in for a look. But depending on how Pears and the other young guys are progressing, I really don't know how much of an upgrade Gaither would be at this point.
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