Do we really need Lee Evans?

[floridabillfan]

Lee Evans is absolutely essential. How many teams under .500 that pick where we picked complain about having a receiver like Evans? It's ridiculous to think a guy like Evans is expendable because we have Stevie the playboy

[Defend Greece]

Ha! Yes, reality.

 

Now that we've done several laps around your non point, why don't you explain what we'd be missing without Lee.

 

Had you read my original post it addresses several facets of Lee's so-called irreplaceable contributions. Rather than focus squarely on one to make your point, why not go through them all and address the "reality" as it exists in multiple dimensions, as I have, bro.

Well I would say you have no idea what you are talking about, I did read your original post and after I was done gagging....... Your reality and mine seem to differ as I am sure you are late for some live action roleplaying right now

You offer up the thought that he is past his prime, fine, I disagree

You talk about our 10 years of veteran leadership and how it has gotten us nowhere, well I can't really say much about that because I'm not on the field or in the lockerroom

What I can comment on is his professionalism, which you don't seem to care much about. To is a free agent, we could get him, trade for donte stallworth and Chad ochocinco, and Brandon Marshall and win the superbowl right????

You talk about him not being big enough, well he is plenty big as far as I am concerned, almost 200# with his speed

 

There is actually a good post in regards to stevies tds on this board and 83s effect on them, go read it bud

Edited August 11, 2011 by Defend Greece

[The Big Cat]

Well I would say you have no idea what you are talking about, I did read your original post and after I was done gagging....... Your reality and mine seem to differ as I am sure you are late for some live action roleplaying right now

You offer up the thought that he is past his prime, fine, I disagree

You talk about our 10 years of veteran leadership and how it has gotten us nowhere, well I can't really say much about that because I'm not on the field or in the lockerroom

What I can comment on is his professionalism, which you don't seem to care much about. To is a free agent, we could get him, trade for donte stallworth and Chad ochocinco, and Brandon Marshall and win the superbowl right????

You talk about him not being big enough, well he is plenty big as far as I am concerned, almost 200# with his speed

 

There is actually a good post in regards to syenite td's on this board and 83s effect on them, go read it bud

 

Actually, I wrote about none of those things. Goodbye, and good luck. The golden gates to my ignore list await you.

[Defend Greece]

Actually, I wrote about none of those things. Goodbye, and good luck. The golden gates to my ignore list await you.

Yup I am dumb, I read the original post, my bad

[dave mcbride]

I continue to love how Bills fans are happy to say sayonara to a bona fide league-wide starter (meaning that he'd start for the vast majority of nfl teams) because we can replace him easily with top 5 picks like David Nelson and Donald Jones.

 

There's a reason why the Bills have what may well be the worst pool of talent in the league.

Edited August 11, 2011 by dave mcbride

[#34fan]

I question Lee Evans' work ethic. Point blank. Buster will work his butt off like he did with the Bolts. Stevie (If all goes well) Should put up BIG numbers. That's IF Fitz can get the ball to him. (and IF he doesn't drop it)

[Hapless Bills Fan]

My logic isnt bad.They ran travis henry out,ran mcgahee out,ran lynch out.Criticized T.O. even though he was by far our best receiver.And back to travis henry the guy ran for 1500 yards consecutively played with a broken bone in his leg,a busted bloody mouth ect.. and some how he wasnt good enough.I guess you need to be polish and have long hair to be wanted here.

 

Logic. You used that word, "Logic". I do not think it means what you think it means.

 

I question Lee Evans' work ethic. Point blank. Buster will work his butt off like he did with the Bolts. Stevie (If all goes well) Should put up BIG numbers. That's IF Fitz can get the ball to him. (and IF he doesn't drop it)

 

So if you know Buster's history with SD, riddle me this: what's the straight gouge on his lack of productivity for the Bolts, despite all that butt-working off?

 

Seriously, would like to hear from someone knowledgeable on that point.

[Defend Greece]

I question Lee Evans' work ethic. Point blank. Buster will work his butt off like he did with the Bolts. Stevie (If all goes well) Should put up BIG numbers. That's IF Fitz can get the ball to him. (and IF he doesn't drop it)

Where do you get this stuff?

[Frez]

Truth is....we probably wouldn't get more than a 4th round pick for Lee Evans. We also have a lot of unknowns at the WR position going into the season. Is everyone on board with that?

 

 

Frez, great call on the 4th round pick! You're a realist!

 

[playboy reese 2.0]

Logic. You used that word, "Logic". I do not think it means what you think it means.

 

 

 

So if you know Buster's history with SD, riddle me this: what's the straight gouge on his lack of productivity for the Bolts, despite all that butt-working off?

 

Seriously, would like to hear from someone knowledgeable on that point.

I guess the Bills agree with me genius.Goodbye Lee.Kelsay is next.Nix just may be on the ball after all.Sound logical.lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I continue to love how Bills fans are happy to say sayonara to a bona fide league-wide starter (meaning that he'd start for the vast majority of nfl teams) because we can replace him easily with top 5 picks like David Nelson and Donald Jones.

 

There's a reason why the Bills have what may well be the worst pool of talent in the league.

Damn are we gonna miss those 37 catches. We'll probably only win three games this year.lol.Bye Lee.

 

I continue to love how Bills fans are happy to say sayonara to a bona fide league-wide starter (meaning that he'd start for the vast majority of nfl teams) because we can replace him easily with top 5 picks like David Nelson and Donald Jones.

 

There's a reason why the Bills have what may well be the worst pool of talent in the league.

Whats a shame is the fact that Nelson and Jones are undrafted and still better than Evans.You people know anything about football.I was watching when you were in your diapers.We are starting to do business like the Pats, just give it a few years.Its a business Lee wasnt an asset anymore.Goodbye Lee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Beerball]

I guess the Bills agree with me genius.Goodbye Lee.Kelsay is next.Nix just may be on the ball after all.Sound logical.lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

Damn are we gonna miss those 37 catches. We'll probably only win three games this year.lol.Bye Lee.

 

 

Whats a shame is the fact that Nelson and Jones are undrafted and still better than Evans.You people know anything about football.I was watching when you were in your diapers.We are starting to do business like the Pats, just give it a few years.Its a business Lee wasnt an asset anymore.Goodbye Lee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ease up playboy.

[playboy reese 2.0]

Ease up playboy.

The Bills are moving forward and I like it.People always say lets build through the draft.Well receiver was the only position we've had any luck drafting at.Lets build.

[Sisyphean Bills]

The Bills are moving forward and I like it.People always say lets build through the draft.Well receiver was the only position we've had any luck drafting at.Lets build.

Got enough rags and polish?

[BillsLux]

Really....., tell me that as a Ravens fan you wouldn't be stoked giving up a fourth round pick for Lee Evans? I don't care that he's 30, tell me the probability that we get a 4th round pick who provides us the producutivy he does over the next few years.

 

The financial analysis about salary cap is a joke, we're way below it and we can't get a tackle to protect our quarterback.

 

Tell me a good move that Nix/Gailey has made besides what my 4 year old daughter could have done: Picking Dareus and letting go of Poz.

 

Was it the brilliance behind letting Lynch play for 4-5 games last year despite that he wasn't our best player at the position (But we got a huge draft pick for it, please....? Or was it that we solidified are hold on Kelsay.

[Delete This Account]

Frez, great call on the 4th round pick! You're a realist!

 

this is extremely odd.

 

jw

[Kingfish]

One thing that just sticks out to me when I looked at Lees stats on the rotoworld link:

most receptions in a season in the 80's and it only happened once. That's just sad, especially for a guy that people around here think of as a great #1 WR. Let's out that into perspective, Boldin, Fitzgerald and Breaston all did that a few years ago from the same offense. Moss, Welker both did it for years in NE. There are plenty of teams that have 2 80 catch recievers on thier rosters and Lees only done it once.

And for those people that say that it's too early to call Stevie a real #1 reciever cause he's only put up numbers one year, consider this:

in just one season after being given the chance to start, Stevie posted more yards, TDs, receptions, and had an absolutely great repor with his QB and he's only been in the league for 3 years. Evans has had over how many? 7 years with at times being the ONLY option and still never did what Stevie did. The only time he even sniffed 10 TDs is when he was the 3rd WR with Moulds on the team taking the #1 role. So maybe we should put Evans in the slot behind Stevie and Nelson and let him work in space. Just a thought. I guarantee you all that he never tops his 9 TDs or just over 1,000 yards or 80 receptions again in his career. At least on this team. So let's trade him, get a 3 and 4 for him if you can. Give the young guys a chance to prove themselves. Good teams do this kind of stuff all the time. The only time when teams keep these guys are when they are actually good.

 

Another telling stat to look at when comparing Lee with the rest of the receiving core is the percentage of catches he made when targeted by the quarterback-

 

Nelson-65.9

Roscoe-62.2

Stevie-57.7

Evans- 44.9

Jones- 43.9

[Beerball]

Another telling stat to look at when comparing Lee with the rest of the receiving core is the percentage of catches he made when targeted by the quarterback-

 

Nelson-65.9

Roscoe-62.2

Stevie-57.7

Evans- 44.9

Jones- 43.9

Were more of those throws of the 'longer' variety? Would you expect the completion % to be equal between a pass 7 yards past the LOS and one that's 17?

[bowery4]

Lee, you were more than just a very talented player, you were a class act. In an era of me-first prima donna receivers, you were a great team player. I, for one, am disappointed you were traded but I wish you all the best with your new team.

Good luck Lee, Thanks for your time in Bflo. I thought the Raven's were going to the big game last year, maybe having you aboard will help their cause. I wish you the best and that you and Fitz would have sparked a bit more.

[Kingfish]

Were more of those throws of the 'longer' variety? Would you expect the completion % to be equal between a pass 7 yards past the LOS and one that's 17?

 

Then we can compare Lee's last two seasons to his two best seasons 2008 and 2006

 

2010-44.5

2009-46.3

2008-61.0

2006-59.8

 

A 15% drop in Lee's success rate since his two best seasons makes me think that he's lost a step.

[USABuffaloFan]

How many 1st round picks are busts. Lee was a fine player for the Bills for 7 years. The Bills needed to move on and create winners with the next batch of receivers. Evans only new losing and couldn't drive himself to "be better". Losing does that to you over time, not Evans fault but he couldn't change that with the Bills.

 

The funny thing is I truly only remember one game that Lee really made a difference. It was against Houston when Losman tossed two 80 yard plus TD's to Evans for the win. I can remember these type of plays many times from Andre Reed and a few of them from Moulds. You can go back even further for guys like Butler, Lewis, Piccone, Lofton, Beebe and Dubieon dominated games. Butler broke his leg on a TD catch and ended his career that way. Last year Stevie Johnson and Parrish were better recievers. The Bills way over paid for Lee Evans at 8.5 mil/yr on the last contract for the production they got.

 

What I really find weird is the percieved "leader" role Lee played. Every QB change was met with resistance from Lee, even Edwards being let go. The true leader on offense the last couple years has been Fred Jackson. Now it is Fitzpatrick as it should be. Lee's game was too one dimensional. He also couldn't block well or handle hand checks from aggressive CB's. As a second reciever for Baltimore he will be fine but the Bills didn't just lose a Pro-bowler. In alot of ways the Bills just got better, Stevie now is the number one reciever. Parrish will be two till Easley, Smith, Roosevelt or Davis comes to the front. Nelson and Jones are good role recievers but not number two types yet. Whoever ends up the second receiver will have better stats then Evans the past two years. Here's hoping Stevie gets a #1 receiver's extension and we all can move on. As a matter of fact I will bet when the season starts no one will miss Evans.

Edited August 13, 2011 by USABuffaloFan