4merper4mer Posted June 22, 2017 Posted June 22, 2017 I texted a few of the people who would be interested - I only got one response back... and I swear it was just this gif: Is that him realizing that all of his assumptions are incorrect or is that him using mockery because he can't defend his argument with actual math? Wth is sitcom math? The rest of the thread is interesting. It's in the thread somewhere. Basically, I used the UFO whack jobs own basis for calculation to prove intelligent alien life is a myth. Quote
Deranged Rhino Posted June 22, 2017 Posted June 22, 2017 Is that him realizing that all of his assumptions are incorrect or is that him using mockery because he can't defend his argument with actual math? He didn't expound, but based on knowing his experiences I'm willing to bet it was his attempt to mock me for asking such a question. Quote
Bad Things Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 (edited) So... this story was on our national news tonight. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/technology/news/article.cfm?c_id=5&objectid=11881939 Edited June 26, 2017 by Bad Things Quote
LeGOATski Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 So... this story was on our national news tonight. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/technology/news/article.cfm?c_id=5&objectid=11881939 The Enceladus announcement was important. There's no doubt life exists. It's very possible it exists on that moon of Saturn. There's no doubt that intelligent life exists in the universe. It's just a matter of how far away it is. Where's the edge of the universe? That's how far we need to go to find other intelligent, self-aware alien life. Quote
4merper4mer Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 He didn't expound, but based on knowing his experiences I'm willing to bet it was his attempt to mock me for asking such a question. So he chose a gif of some dude doing a bad impersonation of a boring to begin with Lewis Black to get his point across? That is next level stuff when it comes to losing an argument. Quote
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 He didn't expound, but based on knowing his experiences I'm willing to bet it was his attempt to mock me for asking such a question. When you mess with a deranged rhino you get the horn Quote
4merper4mer Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 The Enceladus announcement was important. There's no doubt life exists. It's very possible it exists on that moon of Saturn. There's no doubt that intelligent life exists in the universe. It's just a matter of how far away it is. Where's the edge of the universe? That's how far we need to go to find other intelligent, self-aware alien life. LOL at the definitive statement. I also love when people say it is "arrogant" to even think we could be all alone in the universe. And yet....sitcom math. Why is the life only at the very end of the universe? Is there something at the edge that sets it apart? Why are we here? Quote
Deranged Rhino Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 (edited) The Enceladus announcement was important. There's no doubt life exists. It's very possible it exists on that moon of Saturn. There's no doubt that intelligent life exists in the universe. It's just a matter of how far away it is. Where's the edge of the universe? That's how far we need to go to find other intelligent, self-aware alien life. Do you really think we will only find intelligent life at the edge of the universe? Look at the progression of mainstream science in just the last decade. Roughly ten years ago it was believed exo-planets were rare. Seven years ago we theorized every star in the sky has at least one planet. Five years ago it was thought rocky, habitable (in our definition of the word) planets were rare. Now (thanks to Kepler) we estimate that there are more rocky planets in the habitable zones of their stars than there are grains of sands on all the beaches on this planet combined. But it wasn't until 2011 that mainstream science realized stars themselves are water generators http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/06/110613-space-science-star-water-bullets-kristensen/meaning that it's now the accepted model that every star potentially creates the ingredients for life as we would recognize it. The natural cycle of a solar system seems to include creating the necessary ingredients for intelligent life - that's a staggering change in perception and mainstream scientific theory. Now turn to our own solar system. Think about what's been just revealed about Enceladus this year... it used to be assumed, recently, that if life was out there in the universe, it was too far away for us to reach. Now, with Enceladus (and other moons in our solar system like Titan which NASA says is habitable for life today) NASA is saying there's life in our solar neighborhood. That's a monumental change of "mainstream scientific opinion" in just a decade. And now we're a few months away from Webb being launched - which will undoubtedly change those opinions even more in the favor that the universe is teeming with not just life, but intelligent life. The trend we are seeing isn't just that life is out there in the universe, but that life is everywhere in the universe. (imo) Edited June 26, 2017 by Deranged Rhino Quote
Fan in San Diego Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 Do you really think we will only find intelligent life at the edge of the universe? Look at the progression of mainstream science in just the last decade. Roughly ten years ago it was believed exo-planets were rare. Seven years ago we theorized every star in the sky has at least one planet. Five years ago it was thought rocky, habitable (in our definition of the word) planets were rare. Now (thanks to Kepler) we estimate that there are more rocky planets in the habitable zones of their stars than there are grains of sands on all the beaches on this planet combined. But it wasn't until 2011 that mainstream science realized stars themselves are water generators http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/06/110613-space-science-star-water-bullets-kristensen/meaning that it's now the accepted model that every star potentially creates the ingredients for life as we would recognize it. The natural cycle of a solar system seems to include creating the necessary ingredients for intelligent life - that's a staggering change in perception and mainstream scientific theory. Now turn to our own solar system. Think about what's been just revealed about Enceladus this year... it used to be assumed, recently, that if life was out there in the universe, it was too far away for us to reach. Now, with Enceladus (and other moons in our solar system like Titan which NASA says is habitable for life today) NASA is saying there's life in our solar neighborhood. That's a monumental change of "mainstream scientific opinion" in just a decade. And now we're a few months away from Webb being launched - which will undoubtedly change those opinions even more in the favor that the universe is teeming with not just life, but intelligent life. The trend we are seeing isn't just that life is out there in the universe, but that life is everywhere in the universe. (imo) I like the sounds of this. Can we send all ISIS people to one of these planets? Quote
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 I like the sounds of this. Can we send all ISIS people to one of these planets? I'd send the non believers there first, Quote
LeGOATski Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 Do you really think we will only find intelligent life at the edge of the universe? Look at the progression of mainstream science in just the last decade. Roughly ten years ago it was believed exo-planets were rare. Seven years ago we theorized every star in the sky has at least one planet. Five years ago it was thought rocky, habitable (in our definition of the word) planets were rare. Now (thanks to Kepler) we estimate that there are more rocky planets in the habitable zones of their stars than there are grains of sands on all the beaches on this planet combined. But it wasn't until 2011 that mainstream science realized stars themselves are water generators http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/06/110613-space-science-star-water-bullets-kristensen/meaning that it's now the accepted model that every star potentially creates the ingredients for life as we would recognize it. The natural cycle of a solar system seems to include creating the necessary ingredients for intelligent life - that's a staggering change in perception and mainstream scientific theory. Now turn to our own solar system. Think about what's been just revealed about Enceladus this year... it used to be assumed, recently, that if life was out there in the universe, it was too far away for us to reach. Now, with Enceladus (and other moons in our solar system like Titan which NASA says is habitable for life today) NASA is saying there's life in our solar neighborhood. That's a monumental change of "mainstream scientific opinion" in just a decade. And now we're a few months away from Webb being launched - which will undoubtedly change those opinions even more in the favor that the universe is teeming with not just life, but intelligent life. The trend we are seeing isn't just that life is out there in the universe, but that life is everywhere in the universe. (imo) It's amazing, I agree. The universe is bigger than we can comprehend, though. Intelligent life could be relatively close, but I think at this point we're like the Europeans trying to find the New World. We'll have to travel to the "edge of the Earth." LOL at the definitive statement. I also love when people say it is "arrogant" to even think we could be all alone in the universe. And yet....sitcom math. Why is the life only at the very end of the universe? Is there something at the edge that sets it apart? Why are we here? It was just a metaphor for how far we'll have to go to find it. We'll see some cool **** along the way, but finding intelligent life like us will take a crazy long journey at this point. Quote
4merper4mer Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 (edited) It's amazing, I agree. The universe is bigger than we can comprehend, though. Intelligent life could be relatively close, but I think at this point we're like the Europeans trying to find the New World. We'll have to travel to the "edge of the Earth." LOL. He was trolling you. It was just a metaphor for how far we'll have to go to find it. We'll see some cool **** along the way, but finding intelligent life like us will take a crazy long journey at this point. The journey is already over dude. Well, at least if you think math is "true" then the journey is over. There isn't any intelligent life in the universe with which we can converse. We have effectively had an infinite number of chances and come up empty. Don't get me wrong, I am all for exploring space. ALL for it. I think it is our destiny. But every penny pissed away looking for intelligent life in the universe is a penny taken away from more valuable space exploration efforts. It would be a shame if we were on the cusp of being able to reach other parts of the universe and we got hit by an asteroid while we were still stuck here. Throwing money away looking for non-existent little green men makes that more likely. Edited June 26, 2017 by 4merper4mer Quote
Deranged Rhino Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 It's amazing, I agree. The universe is bigger than we can comprehend, though. Intelligent life could be relatively close, but I think at this point we're like the Europeans trying to find the New World. We'll have to travel to the "edge of the Earth." It was just a metaphor for how far we'll have to go to find it. We'll see some cool **** along the way, but finding intelligent life like us will take a crazy long journey at this point. Ah, gotcha. Quote
4merper4mer Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 When did Anonymous transform itself from a bunch of douche bag nerds in stupid masks hacking computers and exposing secrets into a bunch of douche bag nerds dressed in stupid masks getting their "secrets" from poor reading comprehension of available newspaper articles? Quote
Fan in San Diego Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 It's amazing, I agree. The universe is bigger than we can comprehend, though. Intelligent life could be relatively close, but I think at this point we're like the Europeans trying to find the New World. We'll have to travel to the "edge of the Earth." It was just a metaphor for how far we'll have to go to find it. We'll see some cool **** along the way, but finding intelligent life like us will take a crazy long journey at this point. We are still trying to find intelligent life on this planet! Most people on this earth are purely ignorant dumb asses and should be exterminated like the common house fly. Quote
4merper4mer Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 1. We are still trying to find intelligent life on this planet! Most people on this earth are purely ignorant dumb asses and 2. should be exterminated like the common house fly. 1. I can buy that 2. try switching to decaf Quote
LeGOATski Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 LOL. He was trolling you. The journey is already over dude. Well, at least if you think math is "true" then the journey is over. There isn't any intelligent life in the universe with which we can converse. We have effectively had an infinite number of chances and come up empty. Don't get me wrong, I am all for exploring space. ALL for it. I think it is our destiny. But every penny pissed away looking for intelligent life in the universe is a penny taken away from more valuable space exploration efforts. It would be a shame if we were on the cusp of being able to reach other parts of the universe and we got hit by an asteroid while we were still stuck here. Throwing money away looking for non-existent little green men makes that more likely. We're wasting relatively nothing on trying to find little green men. It's just part of the bigger mission to find habitable environments. We need those in order to leave this one. There is intelligent life out there. No doubt. As always, we're not the only ones. We always like to think we are. Quote
4merper4mer Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 There is intelligent life out there. No doubt. As always, we're not the only ones. We always like to think we are. Dude don't be proof of the PT Barnum theory. Quote
LeGOATski Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 Dude don't be proof of the PT Barnum theory. Its the other way around. Throughout history, we always make the same mistakes. Quote
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