ICanSleepWhenI'mDead Posted June 28, 2021 Posted June 28, 2021 From https://www.wired.com/story/what-the-pentagons-new-ufo-report-tells-us-about-ourselves/?utm_source=pocket-newtab "The new report is less a major turning point in our understanding of life in the universe and more a product of our current cultural climate, a time when expertise and authority are increasingly being called into question. The debate over UFOs instead highlights the limits of knowledge and humanity’s continued need to believe in something beyond our mundane experience of the world." Quote
LeGOATski Posted June 29, 2021 Posted June 29, 2021 2 hours ago, ICanSleepWhenI'mDead said: From https://www.wired.com/story/what-the-pentagons-new-ufo-report-tells-us-about-ourselves/?utm_source=pocket-newtab "The new report is less a major turning point in our understanding of life in the universe and more a product of our current cultural climate, a time when expertise and authority are increasingly being called into question. The debate over UFOs instead highlights the limits of knowledge and humanity’s continued need to believe in something beyond our mundane experience of the world." It seems like they're crossing wires with that statement. The UFO debate certainly highlights the need to believe in something beyond. It always has. But that's been discussed to death. It's lazy to deflect to that. This report doesn't highlight that. It highlights a shift in the government's handling of public perception around such events. That part of it (and what the government believes and is willing to disclose) is more interesting than simply continuing the discussion around why members of the public believe. Quote
Patrick Duffy Posted July 4, 2021 Posted July 4, 2021 5 hours ago, Gene1973 said: What the NAVY is seeing is not a craft, but plasma created by a min of 3 coincident lasers creating plasma balls that show up on radar. The fast speeds and accelerations are possible with no sound and no sonic booms. Russia and China are laughing their asses off at the clueless Pentagon. Yeah, I believe you know exactly what it is. You have known all along the answer to the big mystery. Quote
sherpa Posted July 4, 2021 Posted July 4, 2021 9 hours ago, Gene1973 said: What the NAVY is seeing is not a craft, but plasma created by a min of 3 coincident lasers creating plasma balls that show up on radar. The fast speeds and accelerations are possible with no sound and no sonic booms. Russia and China are laughing their asses off at the clueless Pentagon. The Navy is well aware of laser caused plasma images in the IR spectrum. They've been working on it for ten years as a missile decoy system. In fact, they have a patent on the technology. 1 2 Quote
ICanSleepWhenI'mDead Posted July 6, 2021 Posted July 6, 2021 Doesn't hurt to plan ahead: https://spy.com/articles/health-wellness/stress-relief/how-to-prepare-for-an-alien-invasion-1202773602/ I know a guy who isn't planning for an alien invasion, but has concerns about society breaking down in some fashion. He stocked up on doomsday prepper supplies, including food and ammo. How do I know this? I watched him turn pale as he tried to figure out how to muzzle his wife, who was all too happy to blab to a group of social acquaintances (not family) about all the detailed preparations her hubby had made. I figure he probably upped the weapons inventory after his wife let a bunch of people know where they could find food and shelter when doomsday arrives. 1 Quote
Warcodered Posted July 6, 2021 Posted July 6, 2021 1 hour ago, ICanSleepWhenI'mDead said: Doesn't hurt to plan ahead: https://spy.com/articles/health-wellness/stress-relief/how-to-prepare-for-an-alien-invasion-1202773602/ I know a guy who isn't planning for an alien invasion, but has concerns about society breaking down in some fashion. He stocked up on doomsday prepper supplies, including food and ammo. How do I know this? I watched him turn pale as he tried to figure out how to muzzle his wife, who was all too happy to blab to a group of social acquaintances (not family) about all the detailed preparations her hubby had made. I figure he probably upped the weapons inventory after his wife let a bunch of people know where they could find food and shelter when doomsday arrives. I mean there is no planning for it if they find us first it's really just up to what they want. 1 Quote
LeGOATski Posted July 7, 2021 Posted July 7, 2021 9 hours ago, Warcodered said: I mean there is no planning for it if they find us first it's really just up to what they want. Quote
frostbitmic Posted July 7, 2021 Posted July 7, 2021 This thread is almost 10 years old, are the aliens and their ship still there ? Quote
Patrick Duffy Posted July 7, 2021 Posted July 7, 2021 35 minutes ago, frostbitmic said: This thread is almost 10 years old, are the aliens and their ship still there ? Yup, been here since long, long ago........😳 Quote
ICanSleepWhenI'mDead Posted July 12, 2021 Posted July 12, 2021 Scientific American article about a study that examined which exoplanets around distant stars could detect earth as an exoplanet orbiting our sun, if you assumed that an alien civilization on the distant exoplanet used the same exoplanet detection methods that our own civilization has recently developed. Basically, it figures out which distant planets were positioned in such a way that they could observe earth transiting across the face of our sun. That ability changes over time because stars and planets are constantly moving through space, so they picked a 10,000 year window for their study - - from 5,000 years ago through 5,000 years in the future. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/aliens-might-already-be-watching-us/?utm_source=pocket-newtab 1 Quote
ICanSleepWhenI'mDead Posted September 27, 2021 Posted September 27, 2021 Interesting article on the next big telescope in space - - the James Webb Space Telescope: https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/22664709/james-webb-space-telescope-launch-date-december-science-hubble?utm_source=pocket-newtab 2 1 Quote
Nextmanup Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 On 9/27/2021 at 12:32 PM, ICanSleepWhenI'mDead said: Interesting article on the next big telescope in space - - the James Webb Space Telescope: https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/22664709/james-webb-space-telescope-launch-date-december-science-hubble?utm_source=pocket-newtab Apparently it will be used to help view UFOs on the ocean floor. 1 Quote
LeGOATski Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 12 hours ago, Nextmanup said: Apparently it will be used to help view UFOs on the ocean floor. UFOs on the ocean floors of other planets! Quote
4merper4mer Posted February 1, 2022 Posted February 1, 2022 Any updates on this or has math been declared the victor? Quote
Warcodered Posted February 1, 2022 Posted February 1, 2022 5 hours ago, 4merper4mer said: Any updates on this or has math been declared the victor? No we just all agreed not to tell you about it. 1 1 Quote
Nextmanup Posted February 4, 2022 Posted February 4, 2022 On 2/1/2022 at 6:14 AM, 4merper4mer said: Any updates on this or has math been declared the victor? Are you the "math" guy who has commented throughout this thread? Please explain directly how "math" has proven there is no life in the universe, other than on Earth. Thanks. Quote
4merper4mer Posted February 4, 2022 Posted February 4, 2022 4 hours ago, Nextmanup said: Are you the "math" guy who has commented throughout this thread? Please explain directly how "math" has proven there is no life in the universe, other than on Earth. Thanks. It’s already in the thread and is explained very directly as you requested. The discussion is about intelligent communicative life and does not involve any speculation on microbial life/etc so your question is not exactly the same. Quote
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 7, 2022 Posted February 7, 2022 Math like Stats are often wrong Quote
Patrick Duffy Posted February 7, 2022 Posted February 7, 2022 On 2/1/2022 at 6:14 AM, 4merper4mer said: Any updates on this or has math been declared the victor? Are you the same "ieatcrayonz" poster and just changed your name or whatever? Just wondering because I went to first 1-5 pages from 2011 and the "ieatcrayonz" posted same things as you and both say Indiana. Lol, crayonz posted a lot of "any updates on this" and also lots of "math" posts. Not trying to be an ass or anything so hope you don't take it that way, was just curious because the post are basically identical. Posting the same responses from 2011-2022, it seems this is and has been something that you have an overwhelming amount of investment in. 1 1 Quote
Nextmanup Posted February 11, 2022 Posted February 11, 2022 On 2/7/2022 at 2:59 PM, Sheneneh Jenkins said: Are you the same "ieatcrayonz" poster and just changed your name or whatever? Just wondering because I went to first 1-5 pages from 2011 and the "ieatcrayonz" posted same things as you and both say Indiana. Lol, crayonz posted a lot of "any updates on this" and also lots of "math" posts. Not trying to be an ass or anything so hope you don't take it that way, was just curious because the post are basically identical. Posting the same responses from 2011-2022, it seems this is and has been something that you have an overwhelming amount of investment in. ...and yet he never bothers to actually articulate whatever point he is trying to make. Actually, "math" would suggest the universe is teeming with life. Now, as to the Fermi Paradox, "where is it, why haven't we seen it?" well that's a different issue entirely. There are plenty of interesting theories on why that should be, even if the universe is filled with life. My current line of thinking is that highly intelligent/advanced life may not be nearly as common throughout the universe as we might think. Like we might be the most advanced/only advanced civilization in our galaxy, perhaps. If that's true throughout the universe, it could help explain why we haven't been visited. The question is what is the broken link in the chain of the Drake Equation. No one really knows, but it gives rise to interesting discussion. Quote
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