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31 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:

Aliens still steering clear of the virus.  It's easy for them because they don't exist.

oh pshaw. they are just waiting in the wings for the virus to soften us up then... bam!

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11 minutes ago, Foxx said:

oh pshaw. they are just waiting in the wings for the virus to soften us up then... bam!

Maybe they are the virus.  I gotta get me some Roddy Piper sunglasses.

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On 3/23/2020 at 2:08 PM, 4merper4mer said:

 

As he says, maybe the universe is inhabited with countless inhabited worlds. He acknowledges that. 

 

NOW, let's imagine he does this in an accent from southern Alabama. How different would THAT be? 

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7 hours ago, Augie said:

As he says, maybe the universe is inhabited with countless inhabited worlds. He acknowledges that. 

 

NOW, let's imagine he does this in an accent from southern Alabama. How different would THAT be? 

I appreciate the maybe far more than “there has to be.”  I tend to find applied mathematical analysis interesting, though. 
 

The second sentence is too funny! Years ago there was a southern American comedian of Asian descent, perhaps S. Korea, and he possessed very sharply defined Asian facial features. And when he started his routine people began laughing immediately because he delivered it in a classic southern drawl, which was his natural accent. He just looked at the audience and said in that deep southern drawl, “It’s kinda weird, ain’t it”,  which made people laugh all the more. 
 

 

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On 3/23/2020 at 2:08 PM, 4merper4mer said:

 

sorry, didn't watch. 

 

time is short these past few days, perhaps you could point me towards the relevant portions?

 

TYIA

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6 hours ago, K-9 said:

I appreciate the maybe far more than “there has to be.”  I tend to find applied mathematical analysis interesting, though. 
 

The second sentence is too funny! Years ago there was a southern American comedian of Asian descent, perhaps S. Korea, and he possessed very sharply defined Asian facial features. And when he started his routine people began laughing immediately because he delivered it in a classic southern drawl, which was his natural accent. He just looked at the audience and said in that deep southern drawl, “It’s kinda weird, ain’t it”,  which made people laugh all the more. 
 

 

I heard somewhere that it's physicists who tend to think it's inevitable that life (probably enormous multiples tbh) exists (or once existed) elsewhere in the universe whereas the biologists tend to see our evolutionary path as singular due to chance/complexity and thus they go by Rare Earth hypothesis.

 

Recently I read that the age of the universe basically eliminates the probability that humans would exist concurrent to other civilizations who would be even remotely close to our capacity to see/experience/understand...but also said the likelihood that life in other parts of the universe did or does exist is almost certain. 

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35 minutes ago, Foxx said:

 

sorry, didn't watch. 

 

time is short these past few days

 

I'm calling bulls*t on this one.  Have you noticed most everybody is at home surfing the Internet because of the Coronaclap

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1 hour ago, GoBills808 said:

I heard somewhere that it's physicists who tend to think it's inevitable that life (probably enormous multiples tbh) exists (or once existed) elsewhere in the universe whereas the biologists tend to see our evolutionary path as singular due to chance/complexity and thus they go by Rare Earth hypothesis.

 

Recently I read that the age of the universe basically eliminates the probability that humans would exist concurrent to other civilizations who would be even remotely close to our capacity to see/experience/understand...but also said the likelihood that life in other parts of the universe did or does exist is almost certain. 

That’s the opposite of what the mathematical equation in the video above suggests. Interesting. 

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3 minutes ago, K-9 said:

That’s the opposite of what the mathematical equation in the video above suggests. Interesting. 

If you're referring to the 1/n probability of abiogenesis, that is the biological argument- that the process of evolution is too complicated to have occurred anywhere else.

 

But heck we already put waterbears on the moon so there is life outside Earth as we speak...not too hard to imagine it's elsewhere even if just by accident

Posted
14 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

If you're referring to the 1/n probability of abiogenesis, that is the biological argument- that the process of evolution is too complicated to have occurred anywhere else.

 

But heck we already put waterbears on the moon so there is life outside Earth as we speak...not too hard to imagine it's elsewhere even if just by accident

I have no problem imagining it, either. It’s fun. And when we have definitive proof that intelligent beings are out there, it will be even more amazing. 

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5 hours ago, Foxx said:

 

sorry, didn't watch. 

 

time is short these past few days, perhaps you could point me towards the relevant portions?

 

TYIA

It's good and it's really meant to be watched in whole.  When you get time....

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On 3/23/2020 at 12:08 PM, 4merper4mer said:

 

I mean yes I agree us being alone is a possibility I also agree that us not being alone and the universe being full of life is also possible.

 

I do find it interesting that he kind brushes past the part about those Biogensis experiments possibly not being run long enough the ones that first happened in 1952. I mean it's not like years, decades, centuries, millennia,....(epochs?) might be more in the timeline for something to happen within the scale I mean the universe is only billions of years old. Then later in the video he kind of acts like there is no evidence which isn't exactly true there is very little but there is still some, we're the evidence. From a statistical perspective I get how he can brush it off as insignificant, but it's still evidence all the same. So yeah I don't know if there is life out there but I do think it's probable and I think it'd be pretty dumb to not look. 

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7 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

I mean yes I agree us being alone is a possibility I also agree that us not being alone and the universe being full of life is also possible.

 

I do find it interesting that he kind brushes past the part about those Biogensis experiments possibly not being run long enough the ones that first happened in 1952. I mean it's not like years, decades, centuries, millennia,....(epochs?) might be more in the timeline for something to happen within the scale I mean the universe is only billions of years old. Then later in the video he kind of acts like there is no evidence which isn't exactly true there is very little but there is still some, we're the evidence. From a statistical perspective I get how he can brush it off as insignificant, but it's still evidence all the same. So yeah I don't know if there is life out there but I do think it's probable and I think it'd be pretty dumb to not look. 

He basically digs into the rare Earth theory with some additions.  He also points out the folly in the "look at me" scientists basing there opinions on one side of the equation.

 

He does not get into the discussion of the lack of any signal from anywhere ever too deeply at all.  Von Neumann probes are factored in either.  

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