PaattMaann Posted July 30, 2011 Posted July 30, 2011 First off I have slowly come around to Fitzpatrick - yes I really was wishing Cam Newton somehow fell to us at number 3 (but im happy with Dareus). I truly think he will be special in this league. That said, I think Fitz is better than serviceable and has learned Chan's offense and can utilize most of his weapons at RB and WR...however, if he regresses and/or doesnt improve on last years numbers (including wins) and we are stuck drafting in the top 10 again...we most likely will need to address the QB situation in the draft...with that said, id love for Fitz to continue to figure it out and be able to be a stop gap QB for the next 5 years....if he fails and we fail, and we have to address the QB...a quick look at the potential top 10 QB's - I know were getting ahead of ourselves because they still have to play this season and alot can happen, and the Bills still need to play their season and alot can happen... Andrew Luck, Stanford 6'4, 235 - nothing really needs to be said about him, I think he could have potentially hurt himself as the number one pick by not coming out last season...if he has any type of struggles or even if one of the other QBs has an amazing year (or potential future HOF LT emerges), Luck COULD lose out as the number 1...but all signs point to Luck being the number one pick - unless someone like Carolina who just drafted their QB of the future is in the top spot again... Landry Jones, Oklahoma 6'4, 220 - improved in every category in 2010 from his already good 2009 numbers...prototype pocket passer, but with great pocket mobility...has obviously benefited from good offensive lines and continuity at a solid college FB program in the Sooners...seems to have good touch on all passes and great poise and confidence (filled in for injured Sam Bradford and did phenomenol as a freshman)...passing efficieny rating is great, TD numbers are great, and low interception numbers (14 as a fresh, 12 as a soph)...arm strength looks solid side note - mission trip to Haiti, he claims opened his eyes that theres more to life than football, seems really "heady" for a young college QB Matt Barkley, USC 6'2, 220 - similar to Jones, improved in every category in 2010...hasent been able to "light it up" for a full season yet from a yardage standpoint, but has also suffered from a program in serious transition (suspensions, NCAA sanctions and penalties, scholarship restrictions)...and hasent had all of the weapons at his disposal as Jones...certainly has one of the strongest arms in the college game and that has always been his strength, as long as he continues to improve his accuracy and efficiency he could easily push for top QB billing, a lot rides on this year for Barkley - and a average season could force him back to USC for another year Nick Foles, Arizona 6'5, 245 - also continues to improve...left Michigan St 3 years ago for sunny Arizona and an offense that should better suit his styles and comfort...biggest knock on him has been his over tendancy to check down too often, something he continued to do last season, but still looked to take chances, perhaps his check downs are because of lack of true play makers at the skill positions at Zona? He has a strong arm and everything pro scouts look for that translate to the next level. Threw for more yardage last year than in 2009 and completion percentage and rating both rose significantly. Probably wont crack the top 10 but could be someone available middle to late first round if Fitz is the problem but someohow the bills manage to win 8-10 games despite him (which is doubtful) Other Notables: Kirk Cousins, Michigan St 6'3, 205 (won starting gig after Foles bolted for Zona, keeps getting better but probably a 2nd rounder) Ryan Lindley, SD St 6'4, 215 (very pro ready, pro style offense, great TD to INT ratio entire career, and his efficiency, completion percentage, rating and yardages have gone up every year, a strong year this year and he could be in first round discussion)
Thoner7 Posted July 30, 2011 Posted July 30, 2011 (edited) If Fitz struggles then I think its safe to say we have a top 3 pick again. Even if we get to #1 overall, I doubt our FO drafts Luck. We are so stupid. Not interested in Cousins, Foles, or Barkley at this point. Edited July 30, 2011 by Thoner7
Buffalo Barbarian Posted July 31, 2011 Posted July 31, 2011 Ryan Tannehill http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/college-sports/texas-aggies/20110105-carlton-why-aandm_s-ryan-tannehill-was-destined-to-succeed-at-qb.ece
White Linen Posted July 31, 2011 Posted July 31, 2011 If Fitz struggles then I think its safe to say we have a top 3 pick again. Even if we get to #1 overall, I doubt our FO drafts Luck. We are so stupid. Not interested in Cousins, Foles, or Barkley at this point. I don't get why you think our FO is stupid? In their second season of running things, I think they are on top of doing the right things for this team. If we have the first pick, Luck is a lock to be on our team. What gives you the idea we wouldn't?
aussiebills Posted July 31, 2011 Posted July 31, 2011 if luck is on the clock when we get to our pick, be it 1 or 32 (why did i just type that we cant win the superbowl) and we pass on Luck i will physically find every single FO staff members house and burn it down (unless Luck picks up a serious injury)
808 Posted July 31, 2011 Posted July 31, 2011 (edited) kalil the tackle from USC is the LT that will emerge. and if we dont get luck im very interested in landry jones. but i think cousins is someone that we should keep a eye on. reminds me a lot of ponder Edited July 31, 2011 by 808
8-8 Forever? Posted July 31, 2011 Posted July 31, 2011 If Fitz struggles then I think its safe to say we have a top 3 pick again. Even if we get to #1 overall, I doubt our FO drafts Luck. We are so stupid. Not interested in Cousins, Foles, or Barkley at this point. we need to lose out and draft Luck. simple. and you know what, they probably will. phins, Jets and Pats all getting better. we are about the same.
tombstone56 Posted July 31, 2011 Posted July 31, 2011 while nexts years draft has possibly 8 qbs in first two rounds it also loaded at lb particularly ilb ,, while my 2012 wish list includes landry jones,, id take quenton coples(another nc product)projects to olb over him and either upshaw or hightower (both dareus teammates) for ilb..as next pick..
shibuya Posted July 31, 2011 Posted July 31, 2011 we need to lose out and draft Luck. simple. and you know what, they probably will. phins, Jets and Pats all getting better. we are about the same. How do you figure.. .Dareus alone makes us better. Barnett is a wash for Poz... We have a better backup QB possibly and a wildcat QB. Nix 1st draft was last year and most of those guys are still on the roster with experience now. We had a rash of injuries last year and they are all back and healthy at this point... This is Fitz 1st year as the starter out of camp as well... We are better then last year...
Thoner7 Posted July 31, 2011 Posted July 31, 2011 (edited) I don't get why you think our FO is stupid? In their second season of running things, I think they are on top of doing the right things for this team. If we have the first pick, Luck is a lock to be on our team. What gives you the idea we wouldn't? Year Player College Position 2000 Erik Flowers Arizona State Defensive End 2001 Nate Clements Ohio State Defensive Back 2002 Mike Williams Texas Tackle 2003 Willis McGahee Miami (FL) Running Back 2004 Lee Evans Wisconsin Wide Receiver 2004 J.P. Losman Tulane Quarterback 2005 No 1st Round Pick, Roscoe Parrish (2nd Round) Miami (FL) Wide Receiver 2006 Donte Whitner Ohio State Safety 2006 John McCargo North Carolina State Defensive Tackle 2007 Marshawn Lynch California Running Back 2008 Leodis McKelvin Troy Defensive Back 2009 Aaron Maybin Penn State Defensive End/Outside Linebacker 2009 Eric Wood Louisville Center 2010 C.J. Spiller Clemson Running Back Edited July 31, 2011 by Thoner7
808 Posted July 31, 2011 Posted July 31, 2011 vontez berfect is a stud at ILB. hes at ASU with dennis erickson who thinks this is ray lewis2.0 says he is amazing.
Thoner7 Posted July 31, 2011 Posted July 31, 2011 while nexts years draft has possibly 8 qbs in first two rounds it also loaded at lb particularly ilb ,, while my 2012 wish list includes landry jones,, id take quenton coples(another nc product)projects to olb over him and either upshaw or hightower (both dareus teammates) for ilb..as next pick.. hightower is a superstud.
clancynut Posted July 31, 2011 Posted July 31, 2011 Year Player College Position 2000 Erik Flowers Arizona State Defensive End 2001 Nate Clements Ohio State Defensive Back 2002 Mike Williams Texas Tackle 2003 Willis McGahee Miami (FL) Running Back 2004 Lee Evans Wisconsin Wide Receiver 2004 J.P. Losman Tulane Quarterback 2005 No 1st Round Pick, Roscoe Parrish (2nd Round) Miami (FL) Wide Receiver 2006 Donte Whitner Ohio State Safety 2006 John McCargo North Carolina State Defensive Tackle 2007 Marshawn Lynch California Running Back 2008 Leodis McKelvin Troy Defensive Back 2009 Aaron Maybin Penn State Defensive End/Outside Linebacker 2009 Eric Wood Louisville Center 2010 C.J. Spiller Clemson Running Back The jury is still out on Spiller. Wood is a stud and Maybin is a joke. I think Nix can only be judged thus far on former not the latter. Nix stated in a press conference before the 2009 Draft "you try to stay away from one year wonders". But you are right for the most part we have been awful on top picks.
section122 Posted July 31, 2011 Posted July 31, 2011 This talk of a lb over a qb is imo effin crazy! Even if fitz works out would it be terrible to draft a franchise qb and let him sit and learn for 1-3 years and then take over. Lb is a position that can historicly be found in later rounds. Draftek has hightower ranked as a rnd 2 prospect so would anyone be upset with jones/barkley/ other qb and hightower? As an aside I believe d thomas from oregon is also draft eligible next year, not sure where he rates tho.
NewEra Posted August 1, 2011 Posted August 1, 2011 If Fitz struggles then I think its safe to say we have a top 3 pick again. Even if we get to #1 overall, I doubt our FO drafts Luck. We are so stupid. Not interested in Cousins, Foles, or Barkley at this point. You should change your name from Thoner to Downer.
DreReed83 Posted August 1, 2011 Posted August 1, 2011 Slim chance we'll get the number 1 overall pick so I'll take Landry Jones please.
Joe Miner Posted August 1, 2011 Posted August 1, 2011 If you take Landry Jones you just set the franchise back another 4-5 years. Stats aren't everything.
Cynical Posted August 1, 2011 Posted August 1, 2011 I don't get why you think our FO is stupid? In their second season of running things, I think they are on top of doing the right things for this team. If we have the first pick, Luck is a lock to be on our team. What gives you the idea we wouldn't? I'll play devil's advocate. If we have the first pick next year, what gives you the idea we WILL pull the trigger on Luck?
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