Armchair GM Posted July 26, 2011 Posted July 26, 2011 I just read the latest from Buddy...Though I am a fan, his latest installment of philosophy cramming has pushed me over the edge! When are we, as fans, going to demand better from this franchise!? Why do we force ourselves to get excited year after year for the mediocrity that has become synonomous with the Buffalo Bills!? I understand that a team should be built through the draft...really, I do! But you must suppliment the draft by other means to be successful...um, like...FREE AGENCY and TRADES! We have one of the most successful franchises in the NFL right in our back yard, *NE. Year after year, we see that franchise jockey for position in the draft, pick up a key FA, and not hesitate to pull the trigger on a trade. Yet all we hear from Nix is "we're not gonna make a splash in the draft...we're gonna pay our guys that produce for us...if he don't produce we'll find someone who does..." Yeah..? Where..? on the practice squad of another team? There is a ton of talent, in area's we NEED to address, in this years FA class...Young guys...talented guys! We're in a position to be able to make those kind of pick ups and not break the bank, as well as addressing our own key FA's. To that point, I don't see Poz or Flo as a key FA! There are guys out there that are better, guys we should be spending our money on! I love the Bills, and the Bills' fans, and I love being a Bills fan, but most of us think we know more about football than we really do! I know this game...I've been in it for a long time...I still play and I study offenses and defenses alike. Poz is NOT a top tier ILB! He's, self admittedly, undersized MLB and he lacks the prowess to plug a hole at the line, or even take out a blocker or two to let someone else make the play. If you disagree, I beg you to watch him play...if you're like me, you have a handful of games DVR'd. Really watch him, focus on him and try and forget the play happening around him! I say let someone else overpay him. I'd rather sign Rudd from TB. He's been much healthier than Poz throughout his career and he's that hard nosed corn shuckn' Nebraska MLB who'll stick his nose in the fire nd make most of his tackles within a coupleyards of the LOS. I can't be to hard on Flo...I love the guy. He's a solid player that deserves a solid contract, but with the $$ the Bills have available, why not sign a top gun? Why not make a run at Asomugha or Cromartie? Though the Bills' secondary has turned out some very good players, we've never seen a shut down corner on this team. Unfortunately, this is a giant waste of time, yet theraputic! Until there is someone else at the top, this franchise will play second fiddle to the the rest of the NFL. Ralph makes a pile of cash every year, and do you know where a large percentage of it comes from...? Me & you, the fans. Because we refuse to stand up for our right, as fans, to have the best possible product on the field! We cower in the corner in fear of losing our team and buy tickets to the next game instead of protesting the only possible way we can by not going to watch an average team lose by three because we couldn't hold them, or finish, or score on the first posession in OT.
Armchair GM Posted July 26, 2011 Author Posted July 26, 2011 See Post " no splashes... why Not?" I read it after I typed this thesis...oh well, I like mine better
Beerball Posted July 26, 2011 Posted July 26, 2011 I just read the latest from Buddy...Though I am a fan, his latest installment of philosophy cramming has pushed me over the edge! When are we, as fans, going to demand better from this franchise!? Why do we force ourselves to get excited year after year for the mediocrity that has become synonomous with the Buffalo Bills!? Dude...you don't have things so bad. Matter of fact you're such a glass is half full guy that you think that mediocrity is synonomous with the Bills. I'm hear to tell you that the recent Buffalo Bills were looking up at mediocrity. They have a ways to go to get there.
KD in CA Posted July 26, 2011 Posted July 26, 2011 I can't tell you how upset I am that the lockout meant missing four months worth of these threads.
yungmack Posted July 26, 2011 Posted July 26, 2011 Some see the glass half full; some see it half empty. You, it seems, do not even see a glass.
Mark Long Beach Posted July 26, 2011 Posted July 26, 2011 I can't tell you how upset I am that the lockout meant missing four months worth of these threads. No joke. I forgot how much of the sky is falling. I'm really glad there are so many people here to remind me.
Malazan Posted July 26, 2011 Posted July 26, 2011 I can't be to hard on Flo...I love the guy. He's a solid player that deserves a solid contract, but with the $$ the Bills have available, why not sign a top gun? Why not make a run at Asomugha or Cromartie? Though the Bills' secondary has turned out some very good players, we've never seen a shut down corner on this team. It's interesting because the people who love Peters explained this pretty well. How can you expect a guy who is outperforming his peers to sit well with a overpaid free agent underperforming? Cromartie? You really think throwing that kind of money at Cromartie is ultimately a good decision? The philosophy is simple. The Bills lack talent and overpaying free agents to not win isn't going to correct the problem and promote a culture that you can cash in and not come to work if you play for the Bills.
CSBill Posted July 26, 2011 Posted July 26, 2011 I think Nix is just bluffing, what's he suppose to say, "We're going to go hog while in free agency"? They'll go after guys that will make the team better; value guys that they want around for awhile. I HOPE ? ? ?
mattsox Posted July 26, 2011 Posted July 26, 2011 I just read the latest from Buddy...Though I am a fan, his latest installment of philosophy cramming has pushed me over the edge! When are we, as fans, going to demand better from this franchise!? Why do we force ourselves to get excited year after year for the mediocrity that has become synonomous with the Buffalo Bills!? I understand that a team should be built through the draft...really, I do! But you must suppliment the draft by other means to be successful...um, like...FREE AGENCY and TRADES! We have one of the most successful franchises in the NFL right in our back yard, *NE. Year after year, we see that franchise jockey for position in the draft, pick up a key FA, and not hesitate to pull the trigger on a trade. Yet all we hear from Nix is "we're not gonna make a splash in the draft...we're gonna pay our guys that produce for us...if he don't produce we'll find someone who does..." Yeah..? Where..? on the practice squad of another team? There is a ton of talent, in area's we NEED to address, in this years FA class...Young guys...talented guys! We're in a position to be able to make those kind of pick ups and not break the bank, as well as addressing our own key FA's. To that point, I don't see Poz or Flo as a key FA! There are guys out there that are better, guys we should be spending our money on! I love the Bills, and the Bills' fans, and I love being a Bills fan, but most of us think we know more about football than we really do! I know this game...I've been in it for a long time...I still play and I study offenses and defenses alike. Poz is NOT a top tier ILB! He's, self admittedly, undersized MLB and he lacks the prowess to plug a hole at the line, or even take out a blocker or two to let someone else make the play. If you disagree, I beg you to watch him play...if you're like me, you have a handful of games DVR'd. Really watch him, focus on him and try and forget the play happening around him! I say let someone else overpay him. I'd rather sign Rudd from TB. He's been much healthier than Poz throughout his career and he's that hard nosed corn shuckn' Nebraska MLB who'll stick his nose in the fire nd make most of his tackles within a coupleyards of the LOS. I can't be to hard on Flo...I love the guy. He's a solid player that deserves a solid contract, but with the $$ the Bills have available, why not sign a top gun? Why not make a run at Asomugha or Cromartie? Though the Bills' secondary has turned out some very good players, we've never seen a shut down corner on this team. Unfortunately, this is a giant waste of time, yet theraputic! Until there is someone else at the top, this franchise will play second fiddle to the the rest of the NFL. Ralph makes a pile of cash every year, and do you know where a large percentage of it comes from...? Me & you, the fans. Because we refuse to stand up for our right, as fans, to have the best possible product on the field! We cower in the corner in fear of losing our team and buy tickets to the next game instead of protesting the only possible way we can by not going to watch an average team lose by three because we couldn't hold them, or finish, or score on the first posession in OT. I 100% totally agree with you. You gotta attempt to sign the best talent available to make your team better. This team is so lacking leaders it's ridiculous. There is no one to lead this team. Get ready for another 4-12 campaign Oh yea...
San-O Posted July 26, 2011 Posted July 26, 2011 I think the Bills are just wanting to ride out the string, spend as little as possible and rake in as much money as possible via all means possile including seling games to Toronto. The reason may be to keep the team a viable candidate for sale: move or not. $$$ Why should the spend additional money if they are selling out games already? FYI: http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/131908-if-the-bills-dont-sign-any-help-this-year-fa-period/
Nanker Posted July 26, 2011 Posted July 26, 2011 It's interesting because the people who love Peters explained this pretty well. How can you expect a guy who is outperforming his peers to sit well with a overpaid free agent underperforming? Cromartie? You really think throwing that kind of money at Cromartie is ultimately a good decision? The philosophy is simple. The Bills lack talent and overpaying free agents to not win isn't going to correct the problem and promote a culture that you can cash in and not come to work if you play for the Bills. I think I understand what you said. But riddle me this: If The Bills have a lack of talent, and they're not going to make a big splash in the FA market - then who's going to get the extra 10-30 million that they HAVE to pay out this year? Man, people went ballistic when Kelsay got a cap-floor-generated-fat-azz contract extension. Maybe they'll extend Maybin and McKelvin with some of that cash. The money's got to go somewhere. What could end up happening is that instead of getting a bunch of overpaid FA from outside the organization is that Nix creates his own set of overpaid younguns. Once they sign the FAs they want, I think they're going to give Fitzgibbons a royal contract. That should chew up a lot of the money that they're required to spend.
Glory Bound Posted July 26, 2011 Posted July 26, 2011 Since the title of your post matches my user name, I feel compelled to respond. I grew up right down the road from Rich Stadium...been a hard core Bills fan since I was a little tyke. For the last 30+ years however, I have lived right in the heart of Steelers country. If you don't think a pro team can build a winner from the inside out, please check out our 1st place Buccos under Bob Nutting's tenure. The key is coaching, & I still believe Chan can do it.
Jobu Posted July 26, 2011 Posted July 26, 2011 The OP is wrong. The Packers do not participate in FA under Thompson... Solid team -- with no glaring holes. They can lose players like Nick Barnett and Cullen Jenkins and not miss a beat. Buddy is doing it right. I applaud him for being able to tune out our rabid fan base. Dona-ho would have listened to you.
San-O Posted July 26, 2011 Posted July 26, 2011 I think I understand what you said. But riddle me this: If The Bills have a lack of talent, and they're not going to make a big splash in the FA market - then who's going to get the extra 10-30 million that they HAVE to pay out this year? Man, people went ballistic when Kelsay got a cap-floor-generated-fat-azz contract extension. Maybe they'll extend Maybin and McKelvin with some of that cash. The money's got to go somewhere. What could end up happening is that instead of getting a bunch of overpaid FA from outside the organization is that Nix creates his own set of overpaid younguns. Once they sign the FAs they want, I think they're going to give Fitzgibbons a royal contract. That should chew up a lot of the money that they're required to spend. There was no cap-floor last year, and Kelsay is seen as part of the problem, certainly NOT the solution or even a possible solution.
Armchair GM Posted July 26, 2011 Author Posted July 26, 2011 It's interesting because the people who love Peters explained this pretty well. How can you expect a guy who is outperforming his peers to sit well with a overpaid free agent underperforming? Cromartie? You really think throwing that kind of money at Cromartie is ultimately a good decision? The philosophy is simple. The Bills lack talent and overpaying free agents to not win isn't going to correct the problem and promote a culture that you can cash in and not come to work if you play for the Bills. Yes...absolutely! Start a trend of signing the best available players to put the best possible product on the field to get the best possible results. Give us our money's worth! Winners beget winning!
BEAST MODE BABY! Posted July 26, 2011 Posted July 26, 2011 I just read the latest from Buddy...Though I am a fan, his latest installment of philosophy cramming has pushed me over the edge! When are we, as fans, going to demand better from this franchise!? Why do we force ourselves to get excited year after year for the mediocrity that has become synonomous with the Buffalo Bills!? I understand that a team should be built through the draft...really, I do! But you must suppliment the draft by other means to be successful...um, like...FREE AGENCY and TRADES! We have one of the most successful franchises in the NFL right in our back yard, *NE. Year after year, we see that franchise jockey for position in the draft, pick up a key FA, and not hesitate to pull the trigger on a trade. Yet all we hear from Nix is "we're not gonna make a splash in the draft...we're gonna pay our guys that produce for us...if he don't produce we'll find someone who does..." Yeah..? Where..? on the practice squad of another team? There is a ton of talent, in area's we NEED to address, in this years FA class...Young guys...talented guys! We're in a position to be able to make those kind of pick ups and not break the bank, as well as addressing our own key FA's. To that point, I don't see Poz or Flo as a key FA! There are guys out there that are better, guys we should be spending our money on! I love the Bills, and the Bills' fans, and I love being a Bills fan, but most of us think we know more about football than we really do! I know this game...I've been in it for a long time...I still play and I study offenses and defenses alike. Poz is NOT a top tier ILB! He's, self admittedly, undersized MLB and he lacks the prowess to plug a hole at the line, or even take out a blocker or two to let someone else make the play. If you disagree, I beg you to watch him play...if you're like me, you have a handful of games DVR'd. Really watch him, focus on him and try and forget the play happening around him! I say let someone else overpay him. I'd rather sign Rudd from TB. He's been much healthier than Poz throughout his career and he's that hard nosed corn shuckn' Nebraska MLB who'll stick his nose in the fire nd make most of his tackles within a coupleyards of the LOS. I can't be to hard on Flo...I love the guy. He's a solid player that deserves a solid contract, but with the $$ the Bills have available, why not sign a top gun? Why not make a run at Asomugha or Cromartie? Though the Bills' secondary has turned out some very good players, we've never seen a shut down corner on this team. Unfortunately, this is a giant waste of time, yet theraputic! Until there is someone else at the top, this franchise will play second fiddle to the the rest of the NFL. Ralph makes a pile of cash every year, and do you know where a large percentage of it comes from...? Me & you, the fans. Because we refuse to stand up for our right, as fans, to have the best possible product on the field! We cower in the corner in fear of losing our team and buy tickets to the next game instead of protesting the only possible way we can by not going to watch an average team lose by three because we couldn't hold them, or finish, or score on the first posession in OT. I hear the Redskins are looking for some new fans.
Glory Bound Posted July 26, 2011 Posted July 26, 2011 The OP is wrong. The Packers do not participate in FA under Thompson... Solid team -- with no glaring holes. They can lose players like Nick Barnett and Cullen Jenkins and not miss a beat. Buddy is doing it right. I applaud him for being able to tune out our rabid fan base. Dona-ho would have listened to you. Excellent response to the OP. To reinforce your point further, they just won the SB with 16 guys on IR.
billsfan89 Posted July 26, 2011 Posted July 26, 2011 I like Nix's philosophy of building the core of the franchise through the draft. BUT when you say you want to supplement through free agency you have to actually supplement through free agency. If you brought in Cullen Jenkin and Nick Barnett to help the front 7 how would that hurt the team? If you spent big on Zack Miller who would he be taking snaps away from? You can only do so much for a team with drafts. Buddy Nix needs to learn the meaning of the word supplement. Supplementing would be bringing in just 2-3 starters in free agency and some depth. Doing nothing would hurt the team as not everyone on the depth chart is worthy of taking NFL snaps.
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