papazoid Posted July 21, 2011 Posted July 21, 2011 Getting under the salary cap wasn't much of a problem for NFL teams before the uncapped year of 2010. The cap was going up $7 million a year. Many teams stayed to their budgets and had excess cap room. At the end of the 2009 season, 32 teams had $163 million of unused cap space. Once the collective bargaining agreement is signed and the league is up and operating, teams have to return to the days of getting under the cap. The 2011 cap is going to be at $120 million, and there figure to be several cap casualties, particularly because the 2009 cap was at $128 million. http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6786350/reggie-bush-potential-cap-casualties
Bill from NYC Posted July 21, 2011 Posted July 21, 2011 Getting under the salary cap wasn't much of a problem for NFL teams before the uncapped year of 2010. The cap was going up $7 million a year. Many teams stayed to their budgets and had excess cap room. At the end of the 2009 season, 32 teams had $163 million of unused cap space. Once the collective bargaining agreement is signed and the league is up and operating, teams have to return to the days of getting under the cap. The 2011 cap is going to be at $120 million, and there figure to be several cap casualties, particularly because the 2009 cap was at $128 million. http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6786350/reggie-bush-potential-cap-casualties Interesting article. It looks as if it might be tough for the Giants to pay Kevin Boss, especially if a team offers him a large contract. This is encouraging. Hey, ya think that the Bills will make an offer to Clements?
gobillsinytown Posted July 21, 2011 Posted July 21, 2011 Interesting article. It looks as if it might be tough for the Giants to pay Kevin Boss, especially if a team offers him a large contract. This is encouraging. Hey, ya think that the Bills will make an offer to Clements? Signing clements would be awesome! I think 18 million a year for 22 years would get it done.
DC Tom Posted July 21, 2011 Posted July 21, 2011 With the recent history of overpaying for marginal talent on the line, the Bills should be up to the cap in no time.
Doc Posted July 21, 2011 Posted July 21, 2011 With the recent history of overpaying for marginal talent on the line, the Bills should be up to the cap in no time. That's the premium for getting them to come to Buffalo. Unfortunately. And the cap floor is reportedly 90% of the cap ceiling ($108M), meaning the Bills have ~$24M to spend.
Mr. WEO Posted July 21, 2011 Posted July 21, 2011 That's the premium for getting them to come to Buffalo. Unfortunately. And the cap floor is reportedly 90% of the cap ceiling ($108M), meaning the Bills have ~$24M to spend. How do they get them to go to Green Bay?
Ghost of Rob Johnson Posted July 21, 2011 Posted July 21, 2011 (edited) How do they get them to go to Green Bay? Does Green Bay sign alot of high profile free agents? The only 2 of note on their current team is Charles Woodson or Ryan Pickett. Neither of which were in high demand when they reached free agency, and they had to overpay. Edited July 21, 2011 by Ghost of Rob Johnson
papazoid Posted July 21, 2011 Author Posted July 21, 2011 How do they get them to go to Green Bay? by winning games.... G.B. recent playoff appearances last 10 years: 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2007, 2009, 2010 bills recent playoff appearances last 10 years: none, none, none, none, none, none & none.
tombstone56 Posted July 21, 2011 Posted July 21, 2011 With the recent history of overpaying for marginal talent on the line, the Bills should be up to the cap in no time. HEY FOOL ..DIDNT ANYONE TELL YOU THAT TOM DONAHOE AND JOHN GUY ARE GONE?
RyanC883 Posted July 21, 2011 Posted July 21, 2011 How do they get them to go to Green Bay? Football players don't care where they play. "Buffalo" has nothing to do with it. And, if the players have kids, it's a great place to raise kids. Good schools, snow (kids love it) and many other area attractions. Plus, while NYS taxes are rediculously high and the main reason for Buffalo's decline, housing prices are very low in Buffalo compared to other NFL cities. The Steelers have no problem getting players. (Although, having lived in both cities, it would be easier to draw someone to Pgh if the City was the only motovating factor.) If the Bills were wining, FA's would be coming in droves. The problem is the decade of futility.
Doc Posted July 21, 2011 Posted July 21, 2011 Does Green Bay sign alot of high profile free agents? The only 2 of note on their current team is Charles Woodson or Ryan Pickett. Neither of which were in high demand when they reached free agency, and they had to overpay. Bingo.
Mr. WEO Posted July 21, 2011 Posted July 21, 2011 by winning games.... G.B. recent playoff appearances last 10 years: 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2007, 2009, 2010 bills recent playoff appearances last 10 years: none, none, none, none, none, none & none. Oh--THAT'S what it was! I was led to believe playes just don't like small cold cities like Buffalo. Football players don't care where they play. "Buffalo" has nothing to do with it. And, if the players have kids, it's a great place to raise kids. Good schools, snow (kids love it) and many other area attractions. Plus, while NYS taxes are rediculously high and the main reason for Buffalo's decline, housing prices are very low in Buffalo compared to other NFL cities. The Steelers have no problem getting players. (Although, having lived in both cities, it would be easier to draw someone to Pgh if the City was the only motovating factor.) If the Bills were wining, FA's would be coming in droves. The problem is the decade of futility. "Bingo" Bingo. The Packers overpaid for the Defensive Player of the Year? Why can't we overpay for players like that, instead of Walker, Dockery....
bills_red Posted July 21, 2011 Posted July 21, 2011 (edited) cutting Kelsay would save us $2 million this year 9/29/2010: Signed a five-year, $28.2 million contract. The deal contains $11 million in bonus money. 2011: $2 million, 2012: $3.5 million, 2013: $3.725 million, 2014: $3.745 million, 2015: Free Agent Edited July 21, 2011 by bills_red
PDaDdy Posted July 21, 2011 Posted July 21, 2011 With the recent history of overpaying for marginal talent on the line, the Bills should be up to the cap in no time. Right! It's just one facet of our biggest problem and why we haven't been to the playoffs in years. Instead of going the quality route and paying top dollar for great difference making talent we would rather go the quantity route and over pay for mediocre talent. We let our pro bowlers go get their pay day with other teams and spin our wheels using draft picks, undrafted free agents development projects or lunch pail journeymen later in their career to try to replace them.
DrFishfinder Posted July 21, 2011 Posted July 21, 2011 Getting under the salary cap wasn't much of a problem for NFL teams before the uncapped year of 2010. The cap was going up $7 million a year. Many teams stayed to their budgets and had excess cap room. At the end of the 2009 season, 32 teams had $163 million of unused cap space. Once the collective bargaining agreement is signed and the league is up and operating, teams have to return to the days of getting under the cap. The 2011 cap is going to be at $120 million, and there figure to be several cap casualties, particularly because the 2009 cap was at $128 million. http://espn.go.com/n...-cap-casualties I could use $100k if they've got it laying around.....
papazoid Posted July 21, 2011 Author Posted July 21, 2011 at some point you need to add an "impact" player......Nnamdi Asomugha is that kind of player.....i think he's worth $15 mil/year. i think terrence mcgee is no longer a viable option.
Van_phelaN1 Posted July 21, 2011 Posted July 21, 2011 How do they get them to go to Green Bay? might be those lombardi's in the trophy case, but I am thinking it's the cheese.
John from Riverside Posted July 21, 2011 Posted July 21, 2011 I think this would be a good year to spend some of that money on offensive line help and even another linebacker........ I would really like to see what Fitz can do with a solid line in front of him to allow him to use his full wind up on throws instead of "3 seconds and outa there" on every play.
billsfan89 Posted July 21, 2011 Posted July 21, 2011 Imagined if they cut Kelsay, Spencer Johnson, and Maybin that would free up another 14ish million in cap room. Granted they likely aren't going to cut Kelsay and will likely keep Maybin till camp. But I could see Spencer Johnson being cut as he makes 3.5 million and won't be missed. I also don't see them going on a spending spree to fill up to the cap floor either. If they resign Florence and Poz thats likely 8ish million in cap space taken up, rookies are likely going to take up 8-10 million, and they likely are going to try to lock up Kyle Williams and Stevie which is going to take up another 8-10 million. Now even if they cut some of the dead weight like Spencer Johnson its likely that they won't have this glut of space to go out and spend on a big name. Now it would be good to lock up Kyle and Stevie and keep Poz and Florence. But I don't see them going on a spree to meet the floor.
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