Doc Posted July 17, 2011 Posted July 17, 2011 + 1 This could be the formula, and with a shorter than normal amount of prep. time due to the lockout, I think we will find out very quickly who is going to be where as soon as training camp starts: They're not going to have the luxury of swapping guys around here and there I wound't think. Plug the best options in there and go with it. Bell - Levitre - Wood - Urbik - RT ? That's what I'm thinking. Hangman is too valuable as a backup. And it appears RT is Pears' job to lose, assuming they don't add a FA. Again hopefully they settle on the OL quickly.
Bob in STL Posted July 17, 2011 Posted July 17, 2011 Good enough for what? Good enough for 5-11. Urbik and Pears on the right side? Oh my. I prefer: Bell - Levitre - Hangartner - Wood - Clabo (if they are serious about him)
Doc Posted July 17, 2011 Posted July 17, 2011 Good enough for 5-11. Urbik and Pears on the right side? Oh my. I prefer: Bell - Levitre - Hangartner - Wood - Clabo (if they are serious about him) Why Hangman at center and not RG?
John from Riverside Posted July 17, 2011 Posted July 17, 2011 A line of D. Bell - LT Levitre - LG Wood - C Urbick - RG Clabo/Trueblood/Booth - RT With Hangman backing up at the interior positions This would be the most solid line this team has had in years......and you dont cultivate and bring along guys like D. Bell then go another direction when they are improving every year (even though they have been rehabbing injuries) that is how you take steps BACKWARD on your team.
DanInUticaTampa Posted July 17, 2011 Posted July 17, 2011 Looking over many of the posts in this thread most of you guys are expecting this O line to be good enough to compete in the AFC East this year, let me tell you it isn't even close. Go back and watch the last two games of last season against the Patriots 34-3, and Jets 38-7, that O line wasn't anywhere near good enough, and it won't be with the players currently on the roster. The Bills have a tougher schedule this year, opponents have tape on what Fitz can do, they know what plays Gailey will call. This team has no power on that O line save for one or two guys, they can't run block very well, they have no viable TE, no back up QB and RB. How is my post saying that wrotto, urbik, and wang should only be depth options, and if they don't improve, they should be cut all together, has ANYTHING to do with what you are talking about in this post?
Doc Posted July 17, 2011 Posted July 17, 2011 Pears is better than you guys think Don't know much about him. Explain please.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted July 17, 2011 Posted July 17, 2011 I'm sold on Wood in the Pivot and Levitre at Guard other than that, all 3 positions need improvement! Plus tight End, I expect the Bills go Draft Heavy Offensive next year, O-line, QB, TE, LB, CB and Punter and even Kicker will be looking for as well. this
Defend Greece Posted July 18, 2011 Posted July 18, 2011 (edited) Don't know much about him. Explain please. "I don’t see right tackle as high on the priority list," said the team's official newsman. "It’s fourth behind DL, LB and QB as I see it. The reason why is because of the aforementioned Erik Pears. He was a two-year starter for Denver before he fell out of favor there and bounced around since then. Is he a long term solution? That’s up to the coaches, but he’s at least a proven player at that position in the league and can hold the fort until they cultivate more talent." Never said he was allpro, said he was good enough Edited July 18, 2011 by Defend Greece
billsfan89 Posted July 18, 2011 Posted July 18, 2011 Bell improved a lot last season coming off of a season ending injury. He went from one of the worst NFL LT's to a more than serviceable NFL LT (And having only played 8 NFL games in the previous season). I think that he will only stand to improve both with both being farther removed from injury and more experience. Levitre is good at LG and Wood is a good Center. That accounts for the whole left side of the line plus the center position. I also think that Handgartner can spot out at RG and at least be serviceable. That leaves RT And the Bills have a chance at landing one in free agency.
Doc Posted July 18, 2011 Posted July 18, 2011 "I don’t see right tackle as high on the priority list," said the team's official newsman. "It’s fourth behind DL, LB and QB as I see it. The reason why is because of the aforementioned Erik Pears. He was a two-year starter for Denver before he fell out of favor there and bounced around since then. Is he a long term solution? That’s up to the coaches, but he’s at least a proven player at that position in the league and can hold the fort until they cultivate more talent." Never said he was allpro, said he was good enough I didn't say you did. But thanks for the info.
BobbyC81 Posted July 18, 2011 Posted July 18, 2011 Word is that they're targeting Falcon's RT Tyson Clabo. So, with teams unable to talk to players, I assume they can talk to agents?? Where else would these "words" be coming from, unless they're made up?
Doc Posted July 18, 2011 Posted July 18, 2011 So, with teams unable to talk to players, I assume they can talk to agents?? Where else would these "words" be coming from, unless they're made up? I dunno...maybe the front office?
DanInUticaTampa Posted July 18, 2011 Posted July 18, 2011 So, with teams unable to talk to players, I assume they can talk to agents?? Where else would these "words" be coming from, unless they're made up? No one is talking to the players or the agents (legally). But the front office has said what they plan to do, which is resign poz and florence, and maybe whitner. Then there have been leaks about other players they are targeting. Just because they say they are targeting a player, doesn't mean they are talking to them. They have openly said they are targeting poz, but I am sure as hell they aren't talking to him right now.
BillsWatch Posted July 18, 2011 Posted July 18, 2011 Some folks around here blow them off as 'They Suck!' -mostly because these posters suck. What is TBD's excuse for not replacing them? Too cheap? Bad front office? Terrible scouting department? Unwilling to cut the overhyped veterans due to fans? We have been dealing with this problem for years!
thewildrabbit Posted July 18, 2011 Posted July 18, 2011 How is my post saying that wrotto, urbik, and wang should only be depth options, and if they don't improve, they should be cut all together, has ANYTHING to do with what you are talking about in this post? No not really, I was just making a general statement about the current players. Once posted i noticed i quoted your post but didn't mean to.... to lazy to re post
CookieG Posted July 18, 2011 Posted July 18, 2011 "I don’t see right tackle as high on the priority list," said the team's official newsman. "It’s fourth behind DL, LB and QB as I see it. The reason why is because of the aforementioned Erik Pears. He was a two-year starter for Denver before he fell out of favor there and bounced around since then. Is he a long term solution? That’s up to the coaches, but he’s at least a proven player at that position in the league and can hold the fort until they cultivate more talent." Never said he was allpro, said he was good enough Well, he wasn't good enough to beat out either Cornell Green or Langston Walker when he was in Oakland. And he wasn't good enough to win a back up job in Jacksonville last fall. I'm not surprised that this is how they feel. This is probably the same official newsman who said how happy they were with Bell and Kirk Chambers during the 2009 season. They really need to get someone who can evaluate an OL past the "he's 6'8" and 300 lb." stage.
Defend Greece Posted July 18, 2011 Posted July 18, 2011 (edited) Well, he wasn't good enough to beat out either Cornell Green or Langston Walker when he was in Oakland. And he wasn't good enough to win a back up job in Jacksonville last fall. I'm not surprised that this is how they feel. This is probably the same official newsman who said how happy they were with Bell and Kirk Chambers during the 2009 season. They really need to get someone who can evaluate an OL past the "he's 6'8" and 300 lb." stage. Actually he was and did and played lg as well And he dealt with injury problems Edited July 18, 2011 by Defend Greece
thewildrabbit Posted July 18, 2011 Posted July 18, 2011 Well, he wasn't good enough to beat out either Cornell Green or Langston Walker when he was in Oakland. And he wasn't good enough to win a back up job in Jacksonville last fall. I'm not surprised that this is how they feel. This is probably the same official newsman who said how happy they were with Bell and Kirk Chambers during the 2009 season. They really need to get someone who can evaluate an OL past the "he's 6'8" and 300 lb." stage. That will only happen once the staff changes and they hire people that know how to do their jobs or ownership changes, or both. What is amazing is this stuff has been going on for more then a decade with no end in sight, because the stadium is filled every year. Dude first off it's two games second those teams make alot of people look bad Third we have good depth at running back . Fourth Chandler can block but he was a late pickup Fifth Urbik wood and Levitre all have ass Look at ravens and steelers games First, it was more then just the Patriots and Jets, take a look at the beatdown the Vikings gave the Bills, the line is not good enough. second, Bills play the Jets-Pats 2x every year in the division, and not the steelers-ravens.... so the only way to compete in the division is to beat the Jets-Pats at least once each Third, I don't know about "WE" having good depth at RB, but currently the Bills only have Fred Jackson, Spiller hasn't proven he knows how to do his job yet. I don't see anyone behind those two. Fourth, Chandler was cut by both the Chargers-Cowboy's so he wasn't good enough to make those teams as a backup, and yet you see him as the answer at TE. another cast off scrub that is going to suddenly become a pro bowl player because the Bills picked him off the waiver wire Fifth, Wood and Levitre are about the only two decent players on that line, the rest wouldn't even be backups on other teams. This team is going forward with about the same players they had last year on offense, except for Lynch. If they are lucky they will match the wins they had last season.
Doc Posted July 18, 2011 Posted July 18, 2011 That will only happen once the staff changes and they hire people that know how to do their jobs or ownership changes, or both. What is amazing is this stuff has been going on for more then a decade with no end in sight, because the stadium is filled every year. First, it was more then just the Patriots and Jets, take a look at the beatdown the Vikings gave the Bills, the line is not good enough. second, Bills play the Jets-Pats 2x every year in the division, and not the steelers-ravens.... so the only way to compete in the division is to beat the Jets-Pats at least once each Third, I don't know about "WE" having good depth at RB, but currently the Bills only have Fred Jackson, Spiller hasn't proven he knows how to do his job yet. I don't see anyone behind those two. Fourth, Chandler was cut by both the Chargers-Cowboy's so he wasn't good enough to make those teams as a backup, and yet you see him as the answer at TE. another cast off scrub that is going to suddenly become a pro bowl player because the Bills picked him off the waiver wire Fifth, Wood and Levitre are about the only two decent players on that line, the rest wouldn't even be backups on other teams. This team is going forward with about the same players they had last year on offense, except for Lynch. If they are lucky they will match the wins they had last season. You'd have point (except for the laughable "[every OL other than Wood and Levitre] wouldn't even be backups on other teams")...if health, reps, and time in the system meant absolutely nothing. Oh and the Vikes put a beatdown on the Eagles, and they have a pretty good OL, featuring "Pro Bowl" LT Jason Peters.
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