Scrappy Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 These numbers maybe off a touch but we should have plenty to spend based on this simple math. $49 Million in Cap space ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 They should hire me to be in the Front office with some of those funds. Ill tell them what they should have done the past 10 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 The past has past, we need to focus on the now & future. I just hope our rookie signings are performance based. Actually, I hope all of our future signings are performance based. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 The numbers I've seen are 96mil for the Bills- which puts us at 22nd, meaning 10 teams have more money to spend - the Bills have 9 free agents with only Denver having less at 7- when you look at both numbers and the Bills are probably in the top 5 for being in great shape for free agency- maybe only behind Tampa Bay who had a payroll of 60mil and 13 free agents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Looks like we can use $120M as the cap figure The Panthers, Kansas City Chiefs, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Cleveland Browns, Buffalo Bills, and Indianapolis Colts are the furthest off — though we can take the Colts off that list based purely on whatever they wind up doing with Peyton Manning There is no reason to believe that the Bills will be out of the running on whatever FAs they set their sights on. Now we just have to hope that they have a VERY good plan in place and are ready to jump in feet first. Once the signing period opens up we should see significant moves by the Bills. Anyone remember/know where the floor (on spending) will be based on a $120M cap? edit Here is some info on the floor... The guaranteed spend forces every team to put up more than 90 percent of the salary cap in cash each season. A couple of weeks ago, the owners talked about having the guaranteed spend number at close to 100 percent of the salary cap, according to sources. That number and percentage could still be adjusted. So, if the Yahoo salary figures are correct the Bills will have to add significant payroll (don't forget the rookie portion). link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoner7 Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Another raise for Kelsay!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfreak Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 These numbers maybe off a touch but we should have plenty to spend based on this simple math. $49 Million in Cap space ? The cap limit isn't that important to the Bills, the cap minimum is the more significant number for Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 The cap limit isn't that important to the Bills, the cap minimum is the more significant number for Buffalo. 90% off $120M would put it at $108M, we'll see what the final agreement looks like. One interesting note in the ESPN article I linked above...the cowpukes will have to cut salary and their LT is a FA. I didn't think that there was any way they would let him go, and still really don't, but they will need to dump some salary to sign Free and their draft picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gflande1 Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 I cant believe Maybin will be paid $3,757,500 (757,500 base, 3,000,000 bonus) for numbers that I could have gotten. Buddy Nix, I will do as well as, if not better, for half the money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappy Posted July 15, 2011 Author Share Posted July 15, 2011 (edited) The cap limit isn't that important to the Bills, the cap minimum is the more significant number for Buffalo. Agreed, I thought that it was going to be near 100% or just under as I understood it. I know you keep stressing the same point (several times), so can you please come up with what you feel the "Cap Minimum" will be ?? That would be more constructive then simply kicking out some random information, thanks. Edited July 15, 2011 by Scrappy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Agreed, I thought that it was going to be near 100% or just under as I understood it. I know you keep stressing the same point (several times), so can you please come up with what you feel the "Cap Minimum" will be ?? That would be more constructive then simply kicking out some random information, thanks. ALL the reports have been that the cap floor will be 90-95% of the cap ceiling. Beerball's number of $108 million would be at the low end, IMO because it's based on a cap of $120 million at 90%. I think it'll be around that but possibly higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 (edited) Looks like we can use $120M as the cap figure There is no reason to believe that the Bills will be out of the running on whatever FAs they set their sights on. Now we just have to hope that they have a VERY good plan in place and are ready to jump in feet first. Once the signing period opens up we should see significant moves by the Bills. Anyone remember/know where the floor (on spending) will be based on a $120M cap? edit Here is some info on the floor... So, if the Yahoo salary figures are correct the Bills will have to add significant payroll (don't forget the rookie portion). link They will resign their own players and work on extensions for some others who have deals expiring in the next year. Nix said they want to keep their own good players. Read this write up on the 49ers plan. This is the same type plan Nix has said he will use to build the team: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/15/49ers-g-m-says-team-wont-be-major-players-in-free-agency/ Edited July 15, 2011 by purple haze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 They will resign their own players and work on extensions for some others who have deals expiring in the next year. Nix said they want to keep their own good players. Read this write up on the 49ers plan. This is the same type plan Nix has said he will use to build the team: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/15/49ers-g-m-says-team-wont-be-major-players-in-free-agency/ It'll be a frenzy as the signing period probably won't be more than 2 weeks long IMO. There'll be some good talent available, but just re-signing their own and thus banking on rookies and their current roster to improve is a stretch. This 2011 season will show whether Nix' plan is working or not and eschewing free agency or signing depth free agents probably won't score many points with the fan base either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappy Posted July 15, 2011 Author Share Posted July 15, 2011 (edited) It'll be a frenzy as the signing period probably won't be more than 2 weeks long IMO. There'll be some good talent available, but just re-signing their own and thus banking on rookies and their current roster to improve is a stretch. This 2011 season will show whether Nix' plan is working or not and eschewing free agency or signing depth free agents probably won't score many points with the fan base either. The only frenzy at OBD during the free agency period is if Ralph's discount card didn't work at Dennys. Edited July 15, 2011 by Scrappy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 ALL the reports have been that the cap floor will be 90-95% of the cap ceiling. Beerball's number of $108 million would be at the low end, IMO because it's based on a cap of $120 million at 90%. I think it'll be around that but possibly higher. i cant imagine it would be higher. at some point holding a little room under the cap helps flexibility. if you are always within 5 mil of the ceiling it ties your hands when big names come up for you. when a rookie out performs his contract you essentially always have to part ways with a star to re-up him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 The past has past, we need to focus on the now & future. Don't you know who you're talking to? Asking Captain Hindsight to look to the future is like feeding a mogwai after midnight...you just DO NOT DO THAT!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 The only frenzy at OBD during the free agency period is if Ralph's discount card didn't work at Dennys. Just never get tired of your witty Ralph is cheap comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfreak Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 Agreed, I thought that it was going to be near 100% or just under as I understood it. I know you keep stressing the same point (several times), so can you please come up with what you feel the "Cap Minimum" will be ?? That would be more constructive then simply kicking out some random information, thanks. Not sure what you are talking about, this is the first time that I can remember bringing up the minimum myself. I have read though that it is expected to be around 90-93% of the limit which is quite a bit more than it has been, which could really hurt teams like Buffalo who don't like to spend a bunch. Even more potentially hazardous to the Bills, is when they have spent money often it wasn't on players very deserving, and if they are forced to spend the money to meet the minimum, who knows how they would do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 Not sure what you are talking about, this is the first time that I can remember bringing up the minimum myself. I have read though that it is expected to be around 90-93% of the limit which is quite a bit more than it has been, which could really hurt teams like Buffalo who don't like to spend a bunch. Even more potentially hazardous to the Bills, is when they have spent money often it wasn't on players very deserving, and if they are forced to spend the money to meet the minimum, who knows how they would do that. Buff from what I remember normally lands in the mid 80s, or higher. Were talking like an extra 5M on the thriftiest years, spread over a large roster it's negligible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 Another raise for Kelsay!!!!!! That's why he got the last big one. They had to put the money someplace. Frankly, quite a few average players are going to get a significant increase in pay and this isn't just The Bills I'm talking about - it's across the League. The Bills will have enough cash to sign whomever they really want from their own FAs, and plenty to target the holes in the rest of the roster. Here's to hoping the end result will look more like Heluva Good NY State extra sharp cheddar than a block of Jarlsberg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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