DrDawkinstein Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 (edited) http://www.wgrz.com/news/article/127015/37/Deadly-Accident-on-Ride-of-Steel-Coaster-at-Darien-Lake If I remember correctly, this is not the first person to fall off this ride. Edited July 9, 2011 by DrDareustein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 Not to be rude but I don't remember the restraint system and it referenced his losing both legs and sustaining brain damage in Iraq- could this be a case of his body and the system being incompatible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted July 9, 2011 Author Share Posted July 9, 2011 Not to be rude but I don't remember the restraint system and it referenced his losing both legs and sustaining brain damage in Iraq- could this be a case of his body and the system being incompatible? the restraint is a simple lap bar since there are no loops or inverts. this does seem to be some pretty bad judgement. although, you would think he'd be ok if he was holding the handles as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booster4324 Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 Not to be rude but I don't remember the restraint system and it referenced his losing both legs and sustaining brain damage in Iraq- could this be a case of his body and the system being incompatible? This does seem to be the simple explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowgirlsFan Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 None the less. This is still a sad story. May we keep the family in our prayers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booster4324 Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 (edited) None the less. This is still a sad story. May we keep the family in our prayers. Excellent point. Edited July 9, 2011 by Booster4324 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 None the less. This is still a sad story. May we keep the family in our prayers. Ditto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted July 9, 2011 Author Share Posted July 9, 2011 None the less. This is still a sad story. May we keep the family in our prayers. Indeed. Just discussing the hows and whys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Tate Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 Restraints: Lap bar, Seat belt AKA "Lap belt". Rider: Missing one leg entirely, missing 1/2 of other leg, so effectively has 1/2 a lap. From there up, full adult height/weight. Problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 a bit of an update: http://news.yahoo.com/questions-swirl-vet-falls-ny-coaster-213420471.html "Here we have a situation where that individual has seen some pretty incredible things, I would imagine, and if I had to guess, was saying, 'I can ride this. Don't worry about me, I'll be fine.' And then you begin dealing with the forces of physics and it's a whole different situation," said Speigel, a past president of the International Association of Amusement Parks and Attractions, a trade association. Ben Sobeck of Wellsville said he was with two friends on the Ride of Steel coaster a few seats behind Hackemer, who was riding with a college-age nephew, Ashton Luffred. The friends watched in horror as Hackemer was lifted from the seat and thrown as the car went over a hill after two big dips and some turns. "It's bad to deny him to ride, but they should not have allowed him to ride," Sobeck, an Alfred State College student, told the Hornell Evening Tribune. "The ride holds you in by the shins and thighs and a seatbelt." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 a bit of an update: http://news.yahoo.com/questions-swirl-vet-falls-ny-coaster-213420471.html So they could have refused to let him ride and faced a discrimination lawsuit. Or now, since they let him ride, face a negligence lawsuit for letting a guy with no legs ride a ride requiring leg restraints. And letting a legless guy ride a ride requiring leg restraints is crying for a negligence lawsuit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 So they could have refused to let him ride and faced a discrimination lawsuit. Or now, since they let him ride, face a negligence lawsuit for letting a guy with no legs ride a ride requiring leg restraints. And letting a legless guy ride a ride requiring leg restraints is crying for a negligence lawsuit. Lawyers made this country great and paying them will insure freedom for future generations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Did he have his legs with him? Did they push him up to the ride in a wheelchair? Who was with him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Did he have his legs with him? No, I believe he left them in Iraq. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 No, I believe he left them in Iraq. Ouch..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 No, I believe he left them in Iraq. I think Mead was asking about his prophetic legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 I work with someone who is married to a sherriff's deputy who was on the scene. Here's a summary of what that person had to say: It looks like they brought the guy up to the ride via the handicapped access ramp and helped him into the front seat. He made it past the 2 big hills/drops. At some point after that the guy's baseball hat blew off and it appears he may have reached up to grab it and that's what released his grip and got him elevated enough to be thrown out. He went over the front of the car, which then hit him at top speed. I guess the other people in the first few cars were covered in body parts. The ride operators, who had no idea what had happened, let the next train go through the ride. I'm not sure on the physics of how someone would get thrown forward in that case unless it was just as the ride also hit some slow-down brakes or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 I guess the other people in the first few cars were covered in body parts. Let me apologize in advance for this... Imagine how much worse that would have been if the guy had legs. Really, though...that's just horrific. The "puke" smiley doesn't even begin to cover it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 I really wish I hadn't read this thread. RIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 I think Mead was asking about his prophetic legs. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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