bbb Posted July 3, 2011 Posted July 3, 2011 This didn't really help the cause: http://www.buffalonews.com/wire-feeds/24-hour-national-news/article476612.ece
DrDawkinstein Posted July 3, 2011 Posted July 3, 2011 Just read that AP piece on Yahoo. So stupid. Glad he was willing to sacrifice in order to show how wrong he was...
cantankerous Posted July 3, 2011 Posted July 3, 2011 There should be no such helmet laws. If people want to smash their heads in the concrete...so be it.
zevo Posted July 3, 2011 Posted July 3, 2011 I actually agree with the guy....how much of a difference is a tin can on top of your head gunna make when your body is flying uncontollable through the air at 55 mph....it should be the choice of the cyclist...some of these helmeta are nothing more than tin,cans
Nanker Posted July 3, 2011 Posted July 3, 2011 I don't ride anymore, but when I did it was always with a helmet. It doesn't take much of a knock on the skull to get a concussion or a subdural hematoma. Suit yourself, but I've known many riders that wouldn't risk the injury they could get while riding without one. OTOH, one of the most ridiculous laws ever proposed was the motorcycle seatbelt law. Obviously drawn up by some do-gooder fuss budget who never rode. The last thing you want to do be be dragged by the waist with your ride grinding you into the pavement and in all likelihood tumbling over and over. Trust me on that one. You want to slide away from the bike if (when) you drop it. Your chances of surviving with little damage other than pavement rash are greatly improved by getting away from the bike and sliding on your own.
Just Jack Posted July 3, 2011 Posted July 3, 2011 Just want to point out the accident happened in the Syracuse area but the rider was from Parish which is redneck area north of Syracuse in Oswego County.
bbb Posted July 3, 2011 Author Posted July 3, 2011 I actually agree with the guy....how much of a difference is a tin can on top of your head gunna make when your body is flying uncontollable through the air at 55 mph....it should be the choice of the cyclist...some of these helmeta are nothing more than tin,cans They shouldn't be tin cans......And, it might not help in your scenario, but I bet it helps in crashes at lower speeds, etc.
Booster4324 Posted July 3, 2011 Posted July 3, 2011 I don't ride anymore, but when I did it was always with a helmet. It doesn't take much of a knock on the skull to get a concussion or a subdural hematoma. Suit yourself, but I've known many riders that wouldn't risk the injury they could get while riding without one. OTOH, one of the most ridiculous laws ever proposed was the motorcycle seatbelt law. Obviously drawn up by some do-gooder fuss budget who never rode. The last thing you want to do be be dragged by the waist with your ride grinding you into the pavement and in all likelihood tumbling over and over. Trust me on that one. You want to slide away from the bike if (when) you drop it. Your chances of surviving with little damage other than pavement rash are greatly improved by getting away from the bike and sliding on your own. Seriously?
Kiwi Bills fan Posted July 4, 2011 Posted July 4, 2011 Yup, this story even made the news down here in New Zealand. This didn't really help the cause: http://www.buffalonews.com/wire-feeds/24-hour-national-news/article476612.ece
Nanker Posted July 4, 2011 Posted July 4, 2011 Seriously? Seriously. Couldn't believe it when it was proposed. Thankfully, it never gained traction in the state legislature.
The Poojer Posted July 4, 2011 Posted July 4, 2011 I was going to post the same thing Jack... :-) Just want to point out the accident happened in the Syracuse area but the rider was from Parish which is redneck area north of Syracuse in Oswego County.
bbb Posted July 4, 2011 Author Posted July 4, 2011 I actually agree with the guy....how much of a difference is a tin can on top of your head gunna make when your body is flying uncontollable through the air at 55 mph....it should be the choice of the cyclist...some of these helmeta are nothing more than tin,cans I just reread the article. He wasn't going 55, he was 55. And, this: "Troopers say Contos would have likely survived if he had been wearing a helmet."
Acantha Posted July 5, 2011 Posted July 5, 2011 I actually agree with the guy....how much of a difference is a tin can on top of your head gunna make when your body is flying uncontollable through the air at 55 mph....it should be the choice of the cyclist...some of these helmeta are nothing more than tin,cans The body can take a lot of damage, the brain not so much. Those "tin cans" make a huge difference. I wouldn't ride without a helmet, but I also don't like laws that mandate personal safety. If people don't think they need to protect themselves, more power to them.
Doc Posted July 5, 2011 Posted July 5, 2011 I support a person's right to choose. However if you do choose not to wear one, don't expect someone else to pickup the tab for your medical costs related to it.
DrDawkinstein Posted July 5, 2011 Posted July 5, 2011 (edited) I support a person's right to choose. However if you do choose not to wear one, don't expect someone else to pickup the tab for your medical costs related to it. or the tab from the increased insurance rates after that person's family has to cash in. or the tab from the family-left-behind having to go on Public Assistance because "Daddy wanted to feel the wind in his hair"... I think that when you go to take your Motorcycle Road Test, they should ask you which way you plan on riding. You're free to choose whichever you want. If you check the box for "Wear a helmet", you get the normal road course. If you check the box for "NOT wear a helmet", your course is a short road that goes directly off a 100ft cliff. Just get it over with right away. Edited July 6, 2011 by DrDareustein
Dave_In_Norfolk Posted July 5, 2011 Posted July 5, 2011 I support a person's right to choose. However if you do choose not to wear one, don't expect someone else to pickup the tab for your medical costs related to it. I would disagree simply because the macho types exert so much peer pressure on people that generally reasonably people are persuaded into doing dumb things. Helmet laws are just a good idea
Doc Posted July 5, 2011 Posted July 5, 2011 I would disagree simply because the macho types exert so much peer pressure on people that generally reasonably people are persuaded into doing dumb things. Helmet laws are just a good idea. How about some personal responsibility? It's all "he/she/it/God made me do it." Perhaps we should legislate ALL behavior?
Just Jack Posted July 5, 2011 Posted July 5, 2011 Follow up article.... http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/07/death_of_motorcyclist_during_h.html
Chandler#81 Posted July 6, 2011 Posted July 6, 2011 so, grammar police is this irony? Thank you! YES!! I was gonna reply to Kiwi's post, but I like your's better. There just isn't enough irony in the news these days. I love this story. Gotta be a finalist for this years Darwin Awards. No sympathy here.
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