Spiderweb Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 I do like Moorman and think he is still pretty good. However his play has taken a HUGE hit in the last few seasons. Similar to Schobel, his wall hit like a freight train. He is in the wrong side of his career. Still, who do we replace him with? He's still better than any punter available. Ah, better check your eyes.... Schobel's last year was actually a solidly productive season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 The ST coaching switch was also a big factor in Moorman's declining productivity. You can't expect the guy to automatically pick up the new terms and schemes that Bruce is installing. Garrison Sanborn had a really down year last season and struggled with accuracy. If any two players this Bills squad need to start attending team practices and developing chemistry its Moorman and Sanborn. They were like two Dutch neighbors* (I'll explain this later) last year. Totally out of sync. Face it, Moorman hasn't been the same punter since the Sean Taylor hit. It totally killed his confidence. You look at his decision making an timing before and after the hit and theres no comparison. So when you combine the Taylor hit, DeHaven's new schemes and terms, and the fact that Moorman and Sanborn may as well be out there pointing at each others wooden shoes, you have a bad kicking season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cantankerous Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 The ST coaching switch was also a big factor in Moorman's declining productivity. You can't expect the guy to automatically pick up the new terms and schemes that Bruce is installing. Garrison Sanborn had a really down year last season and struggled with accuracy. If any two players this Bills squad need to start attending team practices and developing chemistry its Moorman and Sanborn. They were like two Dutch neighbors* (I'll explain this later) last year. Totally out of sync. Face it, Moorman hasn't been the same punter since the Sean Taylor hit. It totally killed his confidence. You look at his decision making an timing before and after the hit and theres no comparison. So when you combine the Taylor hit, DeHaven's new schemes and terms, and the fact that Moorman and Sanborn may as well be out there pointing at each others wooden shoes, you have a bad kicking season. This has to be a joke. LMAO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobu Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Let's sacrifice a live chicken instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 The ST coaching switch was also a big factor in Moorman's declining productivity. You can't expect the guy to automatically pick up the new terms and schemes that Bruce is installing. Garrison Sanborn had a really down year last season and struggled with accuracy. If any two players this Bills squad need to start attending team practices and developing chemistry its Moorman and Sanborn. They were like two Dutch neighbors* (I'll explain this later) last year. Totally out of sync. Face it, Moorman hasn't been the same punter since the Sean Taylor hit. It totally killed his confidence. You look at his decision making an timing before and after the hit and theres no comparison. So when you combine the Taylor hit, DeHaven's new schemes and terms, and the fact that Moorman and Sanborn may as well be out there pointing at each others wooden shoes, you have a bad kicking season. Reminds me of a joke i once heard mocking on Finlanders. Question: What's the difference between a normal Finn and an introverted Finn? Answer: The normal Finn looks at your shoes while he's talking to you. The introverted Finn looks at his own shoes. Thank you! I'll be here every day till I die! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 (edited) Reminds me of a joke i once heard mocking on Finlanders. Question: What's the difference between a normal Finn and an introverted Finn? Answer: The normal Finn looks at your shoes while he's talking to you. The introverted Finn looks at his own shoes. Thank you! I'll be here every day till I die! That is a punchline fail. 1) It's "extroverted vs. introverted" not "introverted vs. normal" 2) You're only supposed to say the first sentence there, with emphasis on the word "your." The listener is supposed to infer the rest... them figuring it out is part of the joke. Edited June 24, 2011 by UConn James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Reminds me of a joke i once heard mocking on Finlanders. Question: What's the difference between a normal Finn and an introverted Finn? Answer: The normal Finn looks at your shoes while he's talking to you. The introverted Finn looks at his own shoes. Thank you! I'll be here every day till I die! That is a punchline fail. 1) It's "extroverted vs. introverted" not "introverted vs. normal" 2) You're only supposed to say the first sentence there, with emphasis on the word "your." The listener is supposed to infer the rest... them figuring it out is part of the joke. Ahhh… the ubiquitous Finnish Joke Police... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 (edited) Ahhh… the ubiquitous Finnish Joke Police... Well, Garrison Keillor would probably have you up on charges! Edited June 24, 2011 by UConn James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted June 24, 2011 Author Share Posted June 24, 2011 Well, Garrison Keillor would probably have you up on charges! He's a Norwegian Lutheran. Big !@#$ing difference, bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 He's a Norwegian Lutheran. Big !@#$ing difference, bro. He tells all manner of Scandinavian jokes (including that specific one in his annual Joke Show) with nationalities intermixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 He tells all manner of Scandinavian jokes (including that specific one in his annual Joke Show) with nationalities intermixed. Oh Yah? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TF3z-j8o39I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Oh Yah? youtube.com/watch?v=TF3z-j8o39I GK didn't have anything to do with "Fargo" that I know of.... But incidentally, the derivation of "Yah" would seem to be the Scandinavian "Ja" affirmative, with the J pronounced as a Y. When I was young, my Freisland (that is the barrier island region at the very, very north) Dutch grandmother used to call me "Yames" or "Yimmy." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 The ST coaching switch was also a big factor in Moorman's declining productivity. You can't expect the guy to automatically pick up the new terms and schemes that Bruce is installing. Garrison Sanborn had a really down year last season and struggled with accuracy. If any two players this Bills squad need to start attending team practices and developing chemistry its Moorman and Sanborn. They were like two Dutch neighbors* (I'll explain this later) last year. Totally out of sync. Face it, Moorman hasn't been the same punter since the Sean Taylor hit. It totally killed his confidence. You look at his decision making an timing before and after the hit and theres no comparison. So when you combine the Taylor hit, DeHaven's new schemes and terms, and the fact that Moorman and Sanborn may as well be out there pointing at each others wooden shoes, you have a bad kicking season. Did Dehaven use a different term for "punt"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted June 25, 2011 Author Share Posted June 25, 2011 GK didn't have anything to do with "Fargo" that I know of.... But incidentally, the derivation of "Yah" would seem to be the Scandinavian "Ja" affirmative, with the J pronounced as a Y. When I was young, my Freisland (that is the barrier island region at the very, very north) Dutch grandmother used to call me "Yames" or "Yimmy." Oh, I yust go nuts at Christmas, on that yolly holiday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastRochBillsfan Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 This is one of the more enjoyable threads I have read in some time. Thanks guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowery4 Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Wasn't Kelsey drafted in 02? let's cut him instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 To replace somebody for symbolic reasons is stupid. Moorman has been one of the top 10 punters in the NFL for the last decade and is not the reason why the team is losing games. These are the reasons why the Bills suck Drafting Mike Williams Drafting JP Losman Drafting Donte Whitner and John McCargo Drafting Aaron Maybin Drafting James Hardy Not resigning Pat Williams, London Fletcher, Antwan Winfield or Nate Clements among others Signing Derrick Dockery and wasting other free agent dollars on other teams quality backups that never panned out. Hiring Dick Jauron a losing head coach who wanted to install a speed based Tampa 2 Scheme in BUFFALO. I could go on and on but having a good punter acquired in 2001 is not the reason why the Bills are losing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted June 25, 2011 Author Share Posted June 25, 2011 To replace somebody for symbolic reasons is stupid. Moorman has been one of the top 10 punters in the NFL for the last decade and is not the reason why the team is losing games. These are the reasons why the Bills suck Drafting Mike Williams Drafting JP Losman Drafting Donte Whitner and John McCargo Drafting Aaron Maybin Drafting James Hardy Not resigning Pat Williams, London Fletcher, Antwan Winfield or Nate Clements among others Signing Derrick Dockery and wasting other free agent dollars on other teams quality backups that never panned out. Hiring Dick Jauron a losing head coach who wanted to install a speed based Tampa 2 Scheme in BUFFALO. I could go on and on but having a good punter acquired in 2001 is not the reason why the Bills are losing. Someone call 911. This poor man has broken his funny bone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Last year, Moorman ranked as follows: yards/punt: 24th net yards/punt: 23rd Punts inside 20: 28th Touchbacks: 9th (that is, he had the ninth most touchbacks - it's not a good rating) Avg return yards: 20th # of fair catches: 13th http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/punting/sort/avgPuntReturnYards/order/false All in all, it was a bottom feeder of a season for Moorman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Did Dehaven use a different term for "punt"? I have it on good authority that DeHaven uses more than a dozen different terms for punt, including: toe jam, el punto, sister-kisser, Detroit Touchdown, pecan sandy, nutcracker and Pele. You don't want to know how many terms he has for hang time, and when it comes to directional kicking he often calls in the plays in pig-latin or gibberish. Just look at the punting stats from his time in Seattle. DeHaven single handedly ruined the career of Ryan Plackemeier, who was regarded as the most talented punter to come out of the ACC since Scott Player. Having a bad punting game with Plackemeier is like Kasparov losing at Chinese Checkers, it doesn't make sense. Buffalo will never have a punting game with that bum DeHaven running the show on ST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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