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Ralph didn't lose Polian, he chased him out of town. Real smart move on his part.

 

You worded this much better than I did. :thumbsup:

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I guess you could say any owner could have moved to any of those places also. But why would they? And why would Ralph? Big bucks in Indy? Cleveland? Baltimore?

 

Like almost all owners, you stay where you are because you're making money (lots of it). In Ralph's case, not with "vitually" no risk, but actually no risk. All the moves involved problems with stadiums or stadium revenue--none left for "better markets". Ralph threatened to move in 69-70 and the county built him a new stadium. Why would he move when he got what all those other owners wanted and couldn't.

 

Just because it made financial sense for each of those teams to relocate (or re-relocate), it never made financial sense for him to move, and he has always known this. His bottom line over the decades is all the proof of this you need.

 

I would also venture that Buffalo is the only of those cities where he could have sold so many tickets over so many years despite his mostly inept stewardship of his team.

 

Well said, but you're wasting your time trying to use facts to convince Doc.

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Almost every owner has received taxpayer contributions for his/her stadium, doc. I don't know why you (continue to) single Ralph out like he's the only one. The difference is The Ralph isn't new and didn't cost the taxpayers several hundreds of millions of dollars, followed by massive price hikes for tickets, parking, and concessions. And while he does fine in RWS, he could have done better elsewhere with a new stadium funded by significantly more money from the taxpayers with no risk on his part.

Exactly where would he have a "new stadium" at a cost of "hundreds of millions of doallrs" built for him? And at exactly what point would he have made the move? Would he have snuck into Indy the day before the Colts vans? Would he have hijacked the Houston's new owner's arrangements with that city?

 

Again, every team moved because they couldn't get a new stadium. If they had gotten one they would have stayed. Ralph got one (and a subsequet renovation)--therefore, no reson to move. Saying "he could have moved....etc" is meaningless.

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Exactly where would he have a "new stadium" at a cost of "hundreds of millions of doallrs" built for him? And at exactly what point would he have made the move? Would he have snuck into Indy the day before the Colts vans? Would he have hijacked the Houston's new owner's arrangements with that city?

 

Again, every team moved because they couldn't get a new stadium. If they had gotten one they would have stayed. Ralph got one (and a subsequet renovation)--therefore, no reson to move. Saying "he could have moved....etc" is meaningless.

Sure Ralph could have moved to any place that ended up getting an NFL team within the past few decades. Wawrow even intimated that Ralph had a chance to moving to Houston.

 

But you see, Ralph never demanded a new stadium be built for him. Just that improvements be made to the old one. Do you see the point?

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