Obama signs Patriot Act Extension

[Adam]

So you agree that Bush wasn't as bad as you made him out to be?

 

To be honest, after reading up about him, I felt like something that would be censored by this forum. No, he wasn't as bad as he was made out to be. I still disagree with some of his policies, but what you have to do in reality and who you would do in an ideal existence don't always mesh.

[Ramius]

Yeah that's great.

So what are your thoughts on the Patriot Act extension being signed into law by a machine, in the middle of the night, while the chief executive is out of the country?

Yes We Can or Oh No He Didn't!

 

This argument is as asinine as the morons who bashed Bush for dealing with foreign business while at the 2008 Olympics instead of flying back to DC to take the phone call there.

[OCinBuffalo]

I never got the knocks on the teleprompter thing... Even when it first surfaced with Bush II... Yes, he (Bush II) was the first Prez to really get knocked for relying on its use.

 

What is the big deal? Lincoln used a scarp of paper to deliver the Gettysburg Address and surely would have used a teleprompter if the tech was available... Isn't paper the same?

Boy...you still have carp on the brain...don't you? (It will never die as long as either crayonz or I am here)

This argument is as asinine as the morons who bashed Bush for dealing with foreign business while at the 2008 Olympics instead of flying back to DC to take the phone call there.

So, suffice it to say that you think the entire far left, especially Michael Moore, Daily Kos, Huffington Post, and a certain Senator from Minnesota...are all unmitigated morons.

 

 

 

As far as the thread goes:

It's not that Obama is a hypocrite...you actually have to take a position, show real belief in it, and then contradict yourself to be a hypocrite. Obama is either:

a. an idiot, because he didn't understand the position he was taking against the Patriot Act, GITMO, war in general, the Office of POTUS, etc....until the cold, hard reality of actually being the President slapped him in the face.

b. a lemming, because he was just going along with everybody else in his party, and didn't want to make waves....until the cold, hard reality of actually being the President slapped him in the face.

c. a naive intellectual, who actually believed in the wishful thinking so much...that it displaced all fact and became reality for him....until the cold, hard reality of actually being the President slapped him in the face.

d. a person whose brain has been so addled by the retardation that is socialism...that he thinks there's nothing wrong with saying one thing and doing another...since he is part of the intellectual elite, state-ruling class...and therefore always right and accountable to no one.

e. a cynical turd, because he didn't really care what he was saying, as long as it got him votes. And, now he still doesn't care what he says or what he does, as long as it gets him votes.

 

In all cases, it's beyond doubt that President Obama and "reasoned position based on solid, time-tested, guiding principles" have never met. In fact, but for a few flashes...we have Senator Obama serving as Acting President. It remains to be seen if Obama can stop being a-e...and start actually acting like a real leader overseeing a real government that gets real results. So far, in general, he has acted like a real candyass, overseeing a weak government that only gets results for a few ideologues...and even those results are fleeting. Unfortunately, it appears we aren't going to see anything new from him now...as the campaign has already started. But, you never know.

[DC Tom]

So, suffice it to say that you think the entire far left, especially Michael Moore, Daily Kos, Huffington Post, and a certain Senator from Minnesota...are all unmitigated morons.

 

I don't think Ramius is disagreeing with that statement.

 

As far as the thread goes:

It's not that Obama is a hypocrite...you actually have to take a position, show real belief in it, and then contradict yourself to be a hypocrite. Obama is either:

a. an idiot, because he didn't understand the position he was taking against the Patriot Act, GITMO, war in general, the Office of POTUS, etc....until the cold, hard reality of actually being the President slapped him in the face.

b. a lemming, because he was just going along with everybody else in his party, and didn't want to make waves....until the cold, hard reality of actually being the President slapped him in the face.

c. a naive intellectual, who actually believed in the wishful thinking so much...that it displaced all fact and became reality for him....until the cold, hard reality of actually being the President slapped him in the face.

d. a person whose brain has been so addled by the retardation that is socialism...that he thinks there's nothing wrong with saying one thing and doing another...since he is part of the intellectual elite, state-ruling class...and therefore always right and accountable to no one.

e. a cynical turd, because he didn't really care what he was saying, as long as it got him votes. And, now he still doesn't care what he says or what he does, as long as it gets him votes.

 

In all cases, it's beyond doubt that President Obama and "reasoned position based on solid, time-tested, guiding principles" have never met. In fact, but for a few flashes...we have Senator Obama serving as Acting President. It remains to be seen if Obama can stop being a-e...and start actually acting like a real leader overseeing a real government that gets real results. So far, in general, he has acted like a real candyass, overseeing a weak government that only gets results for a few ideologues...and even those results are fleeting. Unfortunately, it appears we aren't going to see anything new from him now...as the campaign has already started. But, you never know.

 

I'll go with [c]. As a working theory it best fits the objective and demonstrable facts, falsifiable (as opposed to, say, [d], disproof of which would rapidly devlove into "But he's a socialist!"), and provides the most accurate predictions of future behavior.

[Ramius]

So, suffice it to say that you think the entire far left, especially Michael Moore, Daily Kos, Huffington Post, and a certain Senator from Minnesota...are all unmitigated morons.

 

Calling Michael Moore an unmitigated moron is an understatement. I don't read Daily Kos or Huffington Post, and i don't know what senator from Minnesota you're talking about. If they all said that, then yes they are unmitigated morons.

 

The only thing currently in this country that is completely bi-partisan is stupidity.

Edited June 1, 2011 by Ramius

[Wacka]

Calling Michael Moore an unmitigated moron is an understatement. I don't read Daily Kos or Huffington Post, and i don't know what senator from Minnesota you're talking about. If they all said that, then yes they are unmitigated morons.

 

The only thing currently in this country that is completely bi-partisan is stupidity.

 

 

The one who's best work was as a retarded railroad baggage handler in Trading Places.

Edited June 1, 2011 by Wacka

[Adam]

Calling Michael Moore an unmitigated moron is an understatement. I don't read Daily Kos or Huffington Post, and i don't know what senator from Minnesota you're talking about. If they all said that, then yes they are unmitigated morons.

 

The only thing currently in this country that is completely bi-partisan is stupidity.

Actually, he is a genius, an evil genius, but still a genius. Like Rush Limbaugh, he makes millions off the lowest common denominator

[IDBillzFan]

Actually, he is a genius, an evil genius, but still a genius. Like Rush Limbaugh, he makes millions off the lowest common denominator

He's more genius than Limbaugh because he actually makes his millions by creating movies demonizing people who make millions and pulling his millions from the very people he thinks he's trying to protect.

 

In fact, I'd go so far as to suggest it's even more genius than a gay person raising awareness of the mistreatment of gay people by convincing people to replace the word "gay" with his last name while simultaneously selling products to bring awareness to the mistreatment of gay people by changing what they call themselves in the first place.