pBills Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 fixed And who cares what her situation is right? So what if the women is pregnant because she was raped? Are they going to force her or guilt her into caring a baby that was created out of that evil act? Ultimately, for some it comes down the woman having no say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booster4324 Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Now you're just trying to change the discussion based on speculation because you realize your original premise is flawed. Anyone even remotely concerned with "slippery slopes" would never also think Obamacare is a good idea. So if you oppose the Healthcare Bill because of the mandate, one would think you would be against this, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 So if you oppose the Healthcare Bill because of the mandate, one would think you would be against this, right? please, don't attempt to inject logic into this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 the new health care bill is entirely consistent with liberal beliefs. Hence stupid and hypocritical. Still waiting for your condemnation of all the waivers handed out to Obama's labor union buddies and Nancy's big $ supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Hence stupid and hypocritical. Still waiting for your condemnation of all the waivers handed out to Obama's labor union buddies and Nancy's big $ supporters. Yes, all Democratic ideas are bad. The Republican Party holds all of the answers. HAHAHAHA!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Hence stupid and hypocritical. Still waiting for your condemnation of all the waivers handed out to Obama's labor union buddies and Nancy's big $ supporters. it's far from perfect...i wanted and still want single payer. i offer no excuses for the waivers. they're wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 (edited) So if you oppose the Healthcare Bill because of the mandate, one would think you would be against this, right? Alternately, one would think that if you oppose this bill in Texas, you would also be against Obamacare, right? Which was my point. Thanks for helping me make it. Edited May 26, 2011 by LABillzFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Alternately, one would think that if you oppose this bill in Texas, you would also be against Obamacare, right? Which was my point. Thanks for helping me make it. Is the State of Texas paying for the sonograms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Is the State of Texas paying for the sonograms? Is the federal government paying for Obamacare? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booster4324 Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Alternately, one would think that if you oppose this bill in Texas, you would also be against Obamacare, right? Which was my point. Thanks for helping me make it. So you are against this bill, correct? Scoring a point on pBills is like winning a race against someone on crutches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 (edited) And who cares what her situation is right? So what if the women is pregnant because she was raped? Are they going to force her or guilt her into caring a baby that was created out of that evil act? Ultimately, for some it comes down the woman having no say. I would like to know how many women who ask for abortions are raped. This is the first thing that southpaws go to when discussing abortion. The next thing they go to is the "religious kook" angle. For the record I don't believe in god but I do believe that there is right and wrong. Abortion would fall on the negative side. pBills, all you have to do is realize that it could have easily been you aborted if the conditions made it a convenience. When I think of this issue thats the perspective I take. Edited May 26, 2011 by Dante Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Alternately, one would think that if you oppose this bill in Texas, you would also be against Obamacare, right? Which was my point. Thanks for helping me make it. it is not necessary to be against this bill if you are for big govt, in a logical sense. it is necessary to be against it if you are against big govt. just because something is true, that doesn't imply that the converse is also true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booster4324 Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 I would like to know how many women who ask for abortions are raped. This is the first thing that southpaws go to when discussing abortion. The next thing they go to is the "religious kook" angle. For the record I don't believe in god but I do believe that there is right and wrong. Abortion would fall on the negative side. pBills, all you have to ask yourself is you could have easily been aborted if the conditions made it a convenience. When I think of this issue thats the perspective I take. Fairly sure he was... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 So you are against this bill, correct? Scoring a point on pBills is like winning a race against someone on crutches. If I lived in Texas, I would be against the bill. It's a ridiculous bill created for all the wrong reasons. it is not necessary to be against this bill if you are for big govt, in a logical sense. it is necessary to be against it if you are against big govt. just because something is true, that doesn't imply that the converse is also true. But it IS necessary to be against Obamacare if your argument against the Texas law is that it begins a slide down a slippery slope. Try to keep up. Just because you keep telling yourself you think you understand the discussion doesn't mean that it's true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Fairly sure he was... that's wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 I would like to know how many women who ask for abortions are raped. This is the first thing that southpaws go to when discussing abortion. The next thing they go to is the "religious kook" angle. For the record I don't believe in god but I do believe that there is right and wrong. Abortion would fall on the negative side. pBills, all you have to do is realize that it could have easily been you aborted if the conditions made it a convenience. When I think of this issue thats the perspective I take. Dear lord. Let me ask you this... even if the number of women who were raped requesting an abortion is 1. Does that mean she should forced to carry that baby? Why is that decision not hers? For the record as well, I personally do not believe in abortion. However, I also believe these women have the right to choose... it's their body. That being said, I do not believe in late term abortions. There is a small window in the beginning of a pregnancy where it should be allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 But it IS necessary to be against Obamacare if your argument against the Texas law is that it begins a slide down a slippery slope. Try to keep up. Just because you keep telling yourself you think you understand the discussion doesn't mean that it's true. You're giving him too much credit. He's not even giving a slippery slope argument. His stance is the logical equivalent of saying if you oppose the welfare state you must also oppose the police force to maintain consistency. I gave up a while back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Nothing needed to be fixed. It is a right to choose. Depending on individual beliefs is when a "life" begins. You may think it's cowardice or whatever but you still don't have the right to tell someone else what to do with their body. I stated this years ago. The fetus is a unique living human being. The fertilized egg carries out the seven conditions needed to consider something living (in the front of any basic bio textbook). It has unique human DNA, a combination of half of the mother's and half of the father's genes. The only exception are identical twins , which result from the same fertilized egg. The slight differences between the identical twins are from the environment, in-utero and after birth. No religion involved in this definition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 (edited) Dear lord. Let me ask you this... even if the number of women who were raped requesting an abortion is 1. Does that mean she should forced to carry that baby? Why is that decision not hers? For the record as well, I personally do not believe in abortion. However, I also believe these women have the right to choose... it's their body. That being said, I do not believe in late term abortions. There is a small window in the beginning of a pregnancy where it should be allowed. No offense P, but if I was one who believed in using the ignore button, this post would definitely qualify. Edited May 26, 2011 by Rob's House Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 that's wrong I'm pretty sure he was voted most qualified for a retroactive one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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