eball Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 Disagree. Oh well. I gotta agree with transient on this one. Both of Buddy's comments place it solely on Donte's shoulders; i.e., he "doesn't want to be a Bill." He's sending the message loud and clear that if Donte wants to stay in Buffalo, he needs to "get real" with respect to salary demands. Amid the safety rankings that were released and posted on this board over the last several days, one thing stood out -- after Polamalu and Reed, you can toss the next ten guys in a bag and pick one out. Being ranked 3rd or 12th doesn't mean diddly poo. Somebody needs to make that clear to Donte.
truth on hold Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 I have no problem with the Jesus reference. Plenty of people draw allegorical analogies to their own life. His problem is early on he made it clear it was all about the benjamins and little old buffalo couldnt sign a huge star like him. Now that there's no CBa and no one outside of buffalo really talks about him anyway, I bet he's nervous and that explains the change in tone.
Kevin Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 I wish the lockout would end already so that crap threads like this that over analyze what a person posted on the Internet, about a subject that no one on this board has absolutely any control over would go away. Hallelujah! Praise the Lord! Where the Tylenol?
Canadian Bills Fan Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 I just get the feeling like Whitner sulks a lot. He always "retweets" and tweets that mention him leaving Buffalo or anything about when we brought in a safety at the end of the season and also during the draft when we drafted our new Safety. Just wish he would take the higher road and stay silent and let whatever happens happen
Mr. WEO Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 His problem is early on he made it clear it was all about the benjamins and little old buffalo couldnt sign a huge star like him. Now that there's no CBa and no one outside of buffalo really talks about him anyway Jesus?
mrags Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 Buddys comments about how Donte won't be a Bill if he doesn't want to be here sums it all up. He thinks Donte is not worth on the open market anywhere near what he is asking for. In the end, he won't be signed by any team. Buffalo will make him an offer much less than what he was making and less than what he was asking for and it will be up to Donte if he decides to take less money. I'm on the fence about him comming back. If we get him cheap that's great. We still ha e another Safety on the team to help gap the young Williams and Searcy in to starting roles and he's really not horrible, just not worth what he's asking. At the same time, I'm not sure I want his childish attitude, and bad decision making on the field to rub off on the young, newly drafted players. At the end of the day, if we get him at league minimum and he accepts the offer then It might be worth it.
trolls_r_us Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 well, Pluto was always whiny and begging for love and attention, so maybe that's a better mythological reference
Motel_Sandwich Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 You must be talking pre-crucifixtion? hilarious!
KOKBILLS Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 Why are we trying to run this guy out of town ? He a good young player. Get a pass rush, and don't put the D on the field for 75 plays a game. As for the cost of his contract, who cares. If he wants 6 mil a year give it to him. Instead of being 50 mil under the cap, well be 44 mil under the cap. 69 Games...5 INT's...19 Passes Defended combined while playing at both Safety Positions...For the one-millionth time Folks...And this goes for every Bills Fan who keeps saying it...Donte Whitner IS NOT A GOOD PLAYER...He may be average or a little better than average at SOME things...He may get better with a better D-Line...He may someday be a good Player...But up to this point in his career he has not been anywhere near consistent enough in all aspects of Safety play to be considered a good Player...There's no way...A good Player makes his Defense better purely by being on the field...The difference and the gap between Whitner and Troy Polamalu, Adrian Wilson, LaRon Landry, Chris Hope, and Dwan Landry is substantial...He's not as good as those Players period...End of story...But even SS's like Gerald Sensabaugh, Atari Bigby, and Paul Oliver have as much if not more impact on their Defenses than Whitner has had in Buffalo... The next problem IS the money, and it's a HUGE Problem...Whitner's Rookie Contract was for an average of almost $6 million per year...For what he gives the Defense he's going to have to agree to a MAJOR Pay Cut...And I doubt that is going to happen in Buffalo...There are plenty of UFA Safeties who will take less than $6 million per year...And if you want to spend $6 million per year at SS, which is stupid anyway unless you get a great Player, why not get a Player like Michael Huff who's play seems to be on the rise not the decline? The Bills can get similar play from George Wilson at SS, with better Cover and Ball skills for half of what Whitner is going to want...Re-signing Whitner creates a logjam...The Bills are not going to re-sign him and sit him...Meanwhile other Players can't get on the Field... I just don't think it's wise to even consider bringing Whitner back...It's a bad fit at this point and both sides need to part ways...Whitner is going to want more than he's worth from The Bills out of pride, and if The Bills make it clear they want him back it's hard to blame Whitner for wanting a raise...He's not worth anywhere close to $6 million per year...Just let him go...
John Cocktosten Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 Every time this guy opens his fingers, I like him less. He is now my least favorite member of the team and the one I most want out. Freeking classic!!!!!!!
Peter Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 Be fair...I followed the link and there is some fairly classy stuff there: @ajwilliams04 yo congrats on being drafted bro...now the work starts....hopefully I'm there in Buffalo to help u guys...imma follow DM me # @jairusbyrd thanks bro...u kno u belong here also!!! (in response to being rated a top-10 safety) I respect Mr. Buddy Nix tremendously but we all have to remember this is a business...I have no ill feelings..1 love Buff I think he is a stream of consciousness kinda guy and sometimes doesn't realize how he will get taken. It's really reader interpretation that "People hated Jesus" is a comparison of himself to Jesus and not a religion-theme, right? "but if only they knew the power he possessed" is an addition when someone else retweeted his comment, and shouldn't be hung up on Whitner at all. He also likes to get cute and yank people's chains - tweeting about stuff in a way he knows can (and is likely to) get taken differently "I'm gone!" "oh, how do you know it wasn't about a woman?" It probably was, no CBA and what team would be fool enough to negotiate outside the rules with a blab-mouth who will help build evidence to get them caught and charged with tampering? I'll put it out there: if Whitner is on board with wanting to play hard and train hard and improve, he's a good player and I want him back if he's willing to be signed at a reasonable price. I don't think we are so chock-full of good players that we can afford to toss out players who have never been in any kind of legal or league trouble and have played hard, just because we interpret their tweets a certain way and it offends us. To build a winning team, the only reason to toss out a good player is because you have a better player on-tap. So for example, if we want to toss out Whitner to make salary room for pursuing a good FA safety who suits us better (bigger, stronger, wraps and tackles instead of back-tackling), cool Because his tweeting annoys us? Don't read it....http://earplugstore.stores.yahoo.net/earmuffs.html For Donte's sake I wish someone would drop his Smartphone in a urinal......like that ad....."Seriously?" Good post.
billsfaninvgs Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 Aside from the fact that he didn't reiterate his previous statement verbatim, I'd say the meaning behind both of these statements is the same. That's exactly what i was thinking....
apuszczalowski Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 it doesn't matter what he does, he will always be run out of Buffalo for one simple reason, HE IS NOT HALOTI NGATA! He could volunteer to play for the league minimum, then intercept every pass that comes his way, single handidly stop every running attempt behind the line of scrimmage, and become the next franchise QB here, all while walking on water and finding the cure for Aids and Cancer, but fans will still find every excuse available not to like the guy and run him out of town because he was taken #8 instead of Ngata People here have a grudge against him for that reason from the second the Bills called his name and that won't ever change
Turbosrrgood Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 (edited) Whitner was never anything more than an average saftey in the box, with poor cover skills. He can't cover a TE to save his life. Yet he talks as if he's a 10 time pro bowler. Hey kind of reminds me of Keyshawn Johnson, high draft pick that was never anything more than mediocre at best. Of course he believed he was the greatest ever... Bryan Scott is flat out better then Whitner in all categories and should have started last year. The only reason he didn't was Whitner's high draft pick and self love... PS: He was another Bills reach to begin with, most draft "experts" had him going at the end of the 1st, early second. Edited May 5, 2011 by Turbosrrgood
KOKBILLS Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 it doesn't matter what he does, he will always be run out of Buffalo for one simple reason, HE IS NOT HALOTI NGATA! He could volunteer to play for the league minimum, then intercept every pass that comes his way, single handidly stop every running attempt behind the line of scrimmage, and become the next franchise QB here, all while walking on water and finding the cure for Aids and Cancer, but fans will still find every excuse available not to like the guy and run him out of town because he was taken #8 instead of Ngata People here have a grudge against him for that reason from the second the Bills called his name and that won't ever change If he was anywhere near a good Player he would be accepted no problem...You're over-exaggerating...We all know they made a massive mistake in not Drafting Ngata...But that's over and done with...No one expects Whitner to have that kind of impact...And if they do they're nuts...What is expected is that Donte have SOME kind of consistent positive impact...And sorry...19 Passes defended and 5 INT's in 69 Games is not going to cut it...It's no where near good enough...No one is making excuses...Turn on the tape...Look at the results...He's not good enough...period...
apuszczalowski Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 Whitner was never anything more than an average saftey in the box, with poor cover skills. He can't cover a TE to save his life. Yet he talks as if he's a 10 time pro bowler. Hey kind of reminds me of Keyshawn Johnson, high draft pick that was never anything more than mediocre at best. Of course he believed he was the greatest ever... Bryan Scott is flat out better then Whitner in all categories and should have started last year. The only reason he didn't was Whitner's high draft pick and self love... PS: He was another Bills reach to begin with, most draft "experts" had him going at the end of the 1st, early second. Why would this determine him being the starter? He was a draft pick of the former regime and the current one had no ties to taking him in the draft.
Turbosrrgood Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 Why would this determine him being the starter? He was a draft pick of the former regime and the current one had no ties to taking him in the draft. No argument here, it SHOULDN'T have any impact on him being a starter...But high draft picks always seem to get the benefit of the doubt. You could also use his higher salary as a reason...You know the ownership doesn't want to be seen with another overpaid high draft pick riding the bench...even though we all see through it anyway.
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