ExiledInIllinois Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 right, and drive home 163633[/snapback] Did you ever hear of the rapist/muderer/thief high on weed?... They thought about committing the autrocites yet, somehow settled for "kicking back" and scoring some "muchies." Not to muddy the water here but, the whole villification of weed goes back to the Jazz Age and rings with racial undertones. Just food for thought... Not meant to lead to any heated debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mary Jane's Mom Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 Did you ever hear of the rapist/muderer/thief high on weed?... They thought about committing the autrocites yet, somehow settled for "kicking back" and scoring some "muchies." Not to muddy the water here but, the whole villification of weed goes back to the Jazz Age and rings with racial undertones. Just food for thought... Not meant to lead to any heated debate. 163640[/snapback] oh, totally The old propaganda movies like "Reefer Maddness" that shows people "hopped up" on weed acting all hyper. they could not have gone farther from the truth. One of the best observations ever was by a Swedish Physicist whom i was sharing a train car with while i was living in Florence. We were on our way to amsterdam, his home town, my vacation town, and he was talking about when the world cup had been through there a few years before. Every match in that years world cup had some sort of riot, EXCEPT, the matches in Amsterdam. The crowd sat nicely and cheered and everyone got along. see what happens when you 1. remove alchohol 2. add trees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 oh, totally The old propaganda movies like "Reefer Maddness" that shows people "hopped up" on weed acting all hyper. they could not have gone farther from the truth. One of the best observations ever was by a Swedish Physicist whom i was sharing a train car with while i was living in Florence. We were on our way to amsterdam, his home town, my vacation town, and he was talking about when the world cup had been through there a few years before. Every match in that years world cup had some sort of riot, EXCEPT, the matches in Amsterdam. The crowd sat nicely and cheered and everyone got along. see what happens when you 1. remove alchohol 2. add trees 163642[/snapback] 3. Overweight Americans sit nicely on their couch while other places get ripped apart... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarthur31 Posted December 17, 2004 Author Share Posted December 17, 2004 So instead...he retired. And in retiring, everyone found out that he smoked marijuana... 163603[/snapback] Exactly!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 Exactly!!! 163667[/snapback] I think you guys missed the point... Even though in screwed up Wicky's little head head there was a urge not to disappoint (even though he totally FUBARED that too). That is why I add the comment about the rigid NFL system and that he is free from it... It is not as cut and dry as it appears... He knows it is wrong and within the NFL system, there is no latitude given... Now that he is out, he could care less who knows. Am I making sense? Or should I take a hit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarthur31 Posted December 17, 2004 Author Share Posted December 17, 2004 exactly (alothough your username is uncalled for). The NFFL would have no problem with him pumping himself full of Xanax, a drug which can have withdrawl side effects like a mini-heroine withdrawl. T-minus 5 minutes before someone who has never smoked weed comes in here to tell me how wrong this is. 163621[/snapback] Steve, I used to smoke it as a teenager and really like it. But as I grew up emotionally, I left it behind because I realized there are people who depend on me to provide for them. My selfish, petty desires were outweighed by the need of many. He needs to grow up. The weed is making him more of a schitzoid than he was w/o it! Sorry but he has deeper issues to deal with other than what he's spoken of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarthur31 Posted December 17, 2004 Author Share Posted December 17, 2004 I think you guys missed the point... Even though in screwed up Wicky's little head head there was a urge not to disappoint (even though he totally FUBARED that too). That is why I add the comment about the rigid NFL system and that he is free from it... It is not as cut and dry as it appears... He knows it is wrong and within the NFL system, there is no latitude given... Now that he is out, he could care less who knows. Am I making sense? Or should I take a hit? 163675[/snapback] B. Real is that you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 B. Real is that you? 163684[/snapback] ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 Steve, I used to smoke it as a teenager and really like it. But as I grew up emotionally, I left it behind because I realized there are people who depend on me to provide for them. My selfish, petty desires were outweighed by the need of many. He needs to grow up. The weed is making him more of a schitzoid than he was w/o it! Sorry but he has deeper issues to deal with other than what he's spoken of. 163676[/snapback] That might be true to the outside observer... It is the legality barrier that wrecks havoc... He is under no financial strain and can easily support his dependency along with his family... It is not leading to other addictions. I don't condone it... Yet, if it works for him? He does seem to be using it medicinally. Not sure or am I an expert, how he is using it appears no more harmful than alcohol, tobacco, or what not. He has escaped the financial end... It is the leagl end that will entwine him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 I left it behind because I realized there are people who depend on me to provide for them. My selfish, petty desires were outweighed by the need of many.He needs to grow up. That's all well and good for you, but there are plenty of people who are perfectly capable of leading productive lives and supporting their families while still enjoying a pipe every once in a while. The same way there are plenty of people who are perfectly capable of leading productive lives and supporting their families while still enjoying a few beers every once in a while. Except puffing a pipe isn't addictive, doesn't cause cirrhosis and doesn't give you a hangover either. I've, ahem, "kicked back" with doctors, cops, business owners, firemen, teachers and even a priest. Every single one of them was/is a well-regarded, succesful, highly respected professional and often a great parent. Just because it didn't work for you doesn't mean it can't work for anybody else. If it helps his head, I hope Ricky keeps rolling them up 'til the day he dies. Cya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 Why do people smoke tobacco? Does it not calm, soothe, and relax? Wicky just needs a little more umph? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 wow, im actaully suprised at how "cool" this board is (if ya know what i mean *wink*) although the resident narcs havent made an appearance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 That's all well and good for you, but there are plenty of people who are perfectly capable of leading productive lives and supporting their families while still enjoying a pipe every once in a while. The same way there are plenty of people who are perfectly capable of leading productive lives and supporting their families while still enjoying a few beers every once in a while. Except puffing a pipe isn't addictive, doesn't cause cirrhosis and doesn't give you a hangover either.I've, ahem, "kicked back" with doctors, cops, business owners, firemen, teachers and even a priest. Every single one of them was/is a well-regarded, succesful, highly respected professional and often a great parent. Just because it didn't work for you doesn't mean it can't work for anybody else. If it helps his head, I hope Ricky keeps rolling them up 'til the day he dies. Cya 163702[/snapback] That is what I have been trying to say. It is always hard to change mores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarthur31 Posted December 17, 2004 Author Share Posted December 17, 2004 ???? 163689[/snapback] Lead singer/rapper of Cyprus Hill. A pro-weed activist. He doesn't have cataracts, btw. I'm sure Woody Harrelson would've loved to add his 2 cents worth if asked on this topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 That's all well and good for you, but there are plenty of people who are perfectly capable of leading productive lives and supporting their families while still enjoying a pipe every once in a while. The same way there are plenty of people who are perfectly capable of leading productive lives and supporting their families while still enjoying a few beers every once in a while. Except puffing a pipe isn't addictive, doesn't cause cirrhosis and doesn't give you a hangover either.I've, ahem, "kicked back" with doctors, cops, business owners, firemen, teachers and even a priest. Every single one of them was/is a well-regarded, succesful, highly respected professional and often a great parent. Just because it didn't work for you doesn't mean it can't work for anybody else. If it helps his head, I hope Ricky keeps rolling them up 'til the day he dies. Cya 163702[/snapback] I agree 100%, good post Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 smoke dope in large amounts! I used to smoke alot but only on occasion now. I am always around some quality stuff. My friends are all huge heads. If it feels good do it. Lifes too short not to enjoy what you enjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RabidBillsFanVT Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 I used to, and the funny part is, most people who will judge is those that will drink a 12 pack or half a bottle of wine with no problem, but think weed is "evil". 163632[/snapback] Drinking beer lasts for only a short while... Smoking weed lasts a lifetime. Abuse is wrong period, but not abusing weed can really mess up your life because it degrades THE most important thing you have- your brain. It what makes you the most advanced animal on the Earth. Not abusing alcohol doesn't even come close to that. Why do you think they made it illegal in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 Drinking beer lasts for only a short while...Smoking weed lasts a lifetime. Abuse is wrong period, but not abusing weed can really mess up your life because it degrades THE most important thing you have- your brain. It what makes you the most advanced animal on the Earth. Not abusing alcohol doesn't even come close to that. A Johns Hopkins study published in May 1999, examined marijuana's effects on cognition on 1,318 participants over a 15 year period. Researchers reported "no significant differences in cognitive decline between heavy users, light users, and nonusers of cannabis." They concluded that "These results ... seem to provide strong evidence of the absence of a long-term residual effect of cannabis use on cognition." Alchohol is far more damaging to your brain and mental processes than marijuana Why do you think they made it illegal in the first place? The reason it's illegal is that it's legality would mean billllllllions in dollars of lost profits for textile companies, alchohol companies, timber companies, pharmaceutical companies, chemical companies, energy companies, etc. The US government is a corporate shill, don't buy what they're selling. Do some research instead of just believing what you're told by groups of people who have a financial interest at stake. Cya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezmid Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 That's all well and good for you, but there are plenty of people who are perfectly capable of leading productive lives and supporting their families while still enjoying a pipe every once in a while. The same way there are plenty of people who are perfectly capable of leading productive lives and supporting their families while still enjoying a few beers every once in a while. Except puffing a pipe isn't addictive, doesn't cause cirrhosis and doesn't give you a hangover either.I've, ahem, "kicked back" with doctors, cops, business owners, firemen, teachers and even a priest. Every single one of them was/is a well-regarded, succesful, highly respected professional and often a great parent. Just because it didn't work for you doesn't mean it can't work for anybody else. If it helps his head, I hope Ricky keeps rolling them up 'til the day he dies. Cya 163702[/snapback] The simple fact of the matter is, Ricky Williams is an addict. The comparisons to "drinking beer every now and then" don't even enter into it. He's letting the weed control his life, his job, etc, and that's the definition of addiction. The NFL's drug policy is actually pretty lenient, yet he was so consumed by the drug that he couldn't stay off of it for a few months or years so instead quit his job? Again, that's the definition of an addict. I'm not saying whether it's right or wrong to smoke it, as that's not what the topic is about. However, even the clients where my wife works (drug rehabilitiation clinic) realized that Ricky was a complete drug addict. Along those same lines, you'd be surprised how many people start with weed and then go onto the harder drugs. I hear the stories everyday from her. CW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 Drinking beer lasts for only a short while... Smoking weed lasts a lifetime. 163788[/snapback] And finally, someone came in with a completly non-factual blanket statement about marijuana (and comparing it to alcohol - you have to be kidding!) Drinking beer only lasts a short while? Wow. Go to an AA meeting and say that aloud. Anyway, Fez, again, he has said on several occasions that Marijuana is the best treatment for his anxiety. Until you've walked a mile in his shoes (at least about that) you really can't judge him for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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