CosmicBills Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 You have no idea how frustrating watching this stuff happen is for anyone that isn't a Sox/Yankees fan. The Sox are JUST AS BAD now. 163423[/snapback] I understand. Even though I am a Yankee fan, I am still for a salary cap in baseball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF_in_Indiana Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 I understand. Even though I am a Yankee fan, I am still for a salary cap in baseball. 163429[/snapback] The Cardinals payroll is like 85 million and it feels like we are outmatched 20 times over. It would be like the Bills having to trade every top star they have to the Cowboys and the Cowboys having an all star team every year filled with stars from the poor teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gantrules Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 I'm not and I love the game. Salary cap has made football boring. Look at the NFC and tell me any of those teams deserve to go besides Philly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCM Posted December 17, 2004 Author Share Posted December 17, 2004 The Cardinals payroll is like 85 million and it feels like we are outmatched 20 times over. It would be like the Bills having to trade every top star they have to the Cowboys and the Cowboys having an all star team every year filled with stars from the poor teams. 163433[/snapback] Just join the DARKSIDE.....the EVIL EMPIRE....and every off-season will be a joyous time of year!!! "So what if we lost in the ALCS...wait till December, We'll show them friggin' Sox and that snot-nosed kid....." Let's see....in about 1 years' time, the Yanks have added Alex Rodriguez, Gary Sheffield, Javier Vasquez, Kevin Brown, Carl Pavano, Jaret Wright, and coming soon to a stadium near you....Carlos Beltran and Randy Johnson..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF_in_Indiana Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 I'm not and I love the game. Salary cap has made football boring. Look at the NFC and tell me any of those teams deserve to go besides Philly. 163434[/snapback] So you enjoyed it in the 1980's when about 3 teams had a legit shot to win it all every year then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF_in_Indiana Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 Just join the DARKSIDE.....the EVIL EMPIRE....and every off-season will be a joyous time of year!!! "So what if we lost in the ALCS...wait till December, We'll show them friggin' Sox and that snot-nosed kid....." Let's see....in about 1 years' time, the Yanks have added Alex Rodriguez, Gary Sheffield, Javier Vasquez, Kevin Brown, Carl Pavano, Jaret Wright, and coming soon to a stadium near you....Carlos Beltran and Randy Johnson..... 163441[/snapback] Must make you real proud. Easiest time being a fan you will ever find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigdaddyinOrlando Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 As much as I like RJ, I think Javy will have an awesome year and continue for several more. I would love too see Vasquez, Pavano and Wright together for a couple of years. Might actually buy some time in order too develope some young talent in the system. But unfortunately I think George doesn't really care for some homegrown talent in the future! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 Must make you real proud. Easiest time being a fan you will ever find. 163445[/snapback] Well, at least we have to endure the legacy of one of the biggest collapses in sports history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njsue Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 Think about this....Johnson Mussina Pavano Wright Brown that is a formidable staff. 163383[/snapback] Kevin Brown has to go. He screwed the yankees with his stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCM Posted December 17, 2004 Author Share Posted December 17, 2004 So you enjoyed it in the 1980's when about 3 teams had a legit shot to win it all every year then? 163442[/snapback] BF.....If someone had put out an AMBER ALERT for the Cards in the World Series maybe they would have shown up.....what a disapointment that was..... Derek Lowe is available.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF_in_Indiana Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 Well, at least we have to endure the legacy of one of the biggest collapses in sports history 163448[/snapback] You always have those 26 titles to fall back on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF_in_Indiana Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 BF.....If someone had put out an AMBER ALERT for the Cards in the World Series maybe they would have shown up.....what a disapointment that was..... Derek Lowe is available.... 163450[/snapback] I don't disagree, St. Louis choked, that still doesn't mean the monetary rules of baseball are fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCM Posted December 17, 2004 Author Share Posted December 17, 2004 Just think of it.....a chilly Sunday night in April....at the Bronx.....opening night.....Schilling(gimping)...Randy Johnson (in pinstripes)on the mound.....Beltran in center....Sheffield , Matsui, A-Rod, Giambi, Jeter, Posada, Womack, ....$250 million.... the look on Francona's face........priceless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gantrules Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 So you enjoyed it in the 1980's when about 3 teams had a legit shot to win it all every year then? 163442[/snapback] And the last five years who has won the WS???? 2000 Yanks 2000 Ravens 2001 Dbacks 2001 Pats 2002 Angels 2002 Bucs 2003 Marlins 2003 Pats 2004 Boston but at the same time we 've had repeat winners in the NFL and they have an 12-1 record right now. I don't see the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 And the last five years who has won the WS???? 2000 Yanks 2000 Ravens 2001 Dbacks 2001 Pats 2002 Angels 2002 Bucs 2003 Marlins 2003 Pats 2004 Boston but at the same time we 've had repeat winners in the NFL and they have an 11-1 record right now. I don't see the difference. 163457[/snapback] Don't let little things like facts get in the way of an emotional argument. Thank God the BILLS didn't face the cap in the early 1990s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 And the last five years who has won the WS???? 2000 Yanks 2000 Ravens 2001 Dbacks 2001 Pats 2002 Angels 2002 Bucs 2003 Marlins 2003 Pats 2004 Boston but at the same time we 've had repeat winners in the NFL and they have an 12-1 record right now. I don't see the difference. 163457[/snapback] What was that, three WildCards out of 5 in the WS? To boot we are on a 3 year streak... Oops BF! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwovince Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 Red Sox have to spend in order to compete with the Evil Empire period. Im also wishing for a salary cap because Spankees/Chokees dont have the front office to compete with the Red sox. I hope they get RJ because Javier is going to be a damn good pitcher. Varitek will resign and im not worried about the pitching at all. They will sign Clement,Millwood or Perez or trade for either AJ Burnett or Sheets. And didnt Schiling say he wasnt going to be able to pitch in playoffs after his first start in ALCS? Im not worried and neither is any red sox fan. Chokees will not beat out the red sox in the long run period!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmac17 Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 JohnsonMussina Pavano Wright Brown that is a formidable staff. Yeah, I wouldn't want to face Kevin Brown in a big game. And Wright, he's a hell of a pitcher these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 Red Sox have to spend in order to compete with the Evil Empire period. Im also wishing for a salary cap because Spankees/Chokees dont have the front office to compete with the Red sox. I hope they get RJ because Javier is going to be a damn good pitcher. Varitek will resign and im not worried about the pitching at all. They will sign Clement,Millwood or Perez or trade for either AJ Burnett or Sheets. And didnt Schiling say he wasnt going to be able to pitch in playoffs after his first start in ALCS? Im not worried and neither is any red sox fan. Chokees will not beat out the red sox in the long run period!! 163496[/snapback] Over the course of say 100 years... You are entitled to choke once? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF_in_Indiana Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 Don't let little things like facts get in the way of an emotional argument. Thank God the BILLS didn't face the cap in the early 1990s. 163469[/snapback] I don't think I have ever disagreed that titles are won on the field, however the unfair advantage created is not right. Look at the LCS Teams since 1998. 1998- NY Yankees, Cleveland, Atlanta, San Diego 1999- NY Yankees, Boston, Atlanta, NY Mets 2000- NY Yankees, Seattle, St. Louis, NY Mets 2001- NY Yankees, Seattle, Arizona, Atlanta 2002- Anaheim, Minnesota, SF Giants, St. Louis 2003- NY Yankees, Boston, Chicago, Florida 2004- NY Yankees, Boston, St. Louis, Houston NY Yankees- 6 times Boston- 3 times St. Louis- 3 times Atlanta- 3 times NY Mets- 2 times Seattle 2 times What do EVERY ONE of those teams have in common? High payrolls. St. Louis has a high payroll for the N.L. Atlanta had a huge payroll durring their run, as did the Mets. The highest payroll doesn't always win, but it almost ensures you get there and have a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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