Guest three3 Posted May 3, 2011 Posted May 3, 2011 who the hell cares where a presidential candidate is born? wtf does it even matter?
Chef Jim Posted May 3, 2011 Posted May 3, 2011 who the hell cares where a presidential candidate is born? wtf does it even matter? Well I'm not so sure I'd want a President that was born and raised in China.
BuffaloBill Posted May 3, 2011 Posted May 3, 2011 who the hell cares where a presidential candidate is born? wtf does it even matter? You might want to look at the US Constitution, Article II, Section 1 For some odd reason the law provides an answer to your question.
Guest three3 Posted May 3, 2011 Posted May 3, 2011 You might want to look at the US Constitution, Article II, Section 1 For some odd reason the law provides an answer to your question. the law is wrong, once again. newsflash: laws change over time. and this is one that will change. where someone is born is meaningless. did you know that john mccain was not born on US soil?
kegtapr Posted May 3, 2011 Posted May 3, 2011 the law is wrong, once again. newsflash: laws change over time. and this is one that will change. where someone is born is meaningless. did you know that john mccain was not born on US soil? Gearing up for the Schwarzenegger presidency I see.
BuffaloBill Posted May 3, 2011 Posted May 3, 2011 Gearing up for the Schwarzenegger presidency I see. Actually Three3 has a bit of a point. You may still be a natural born citizen under a couple of scenarios regardless of where you are born.
outsidethebox Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 I would have to say the liberals. Yep, really annoying.
DC Tom Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 You might want to look at the US Constitution, Article II, Section 1 For some odd reason the law provides an answer to your question. Yep, it says you have to be born a citizen. It says precisely nothing about location. Again: there's precisely two types of citizenship: born, or naturalized. There's no third "born a citizen, but it doesn't really count" option. Birthers are more annoying. Bin Laden was a murderous bastard, and I'm glad he's dead...but he made some very valid points about Western racism and oppression of Arabs and Islam. Birthers are just ignorant.
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 Yep, it says you have to be born a citizen. It says precisely nothing about location. Again: there's precisely two types of citizenship: born, or naturalized. There's no third "born a citizen, but it doesn't really count" option. Birthers are more annoying. Bin Laden was a murderous bastard, and I'm glad he's dead...but he made some very valid points about Western racism and oppression of Arabs and Islam. Birthers are just ignorant. Bingo!
RkFast Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 (edited) Yep, it says you have to be born a citizen. It says precisely nothing about location. Again: there's precisely two types of citizenship: born, or naturalized. There's no third "born a citizen, but it doesn't really count" option. Birthers are more annoying. Bin Laden was a murderous bastard, and I'm glad he's dead...but he made some very valid points about Western racism and oppression of Arabs and Islam. Birthers are just ignorant. Post em up or shut the !@#$ up. bin Laden had "valid points" Thats the same !@#$ mindset that brings us wonderous bull **** like "Hitler also did a lot of good for Germany." Edited May 4, 2011 by RkFast
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 the law is wrong, once again. newsflash: laws change over time. and this is one that will change. where someone is born is meaningless. did you know that john mccain was not born on US soil? pretty sure the law is the law on that and your wrong. who cares about Mccain and why does that matter? He was born on a US military base to US parents in the US panama canal zone under US governemnt authority at that time. but the Bin Laden sympathizers are far more annoying.
DC Tom Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 Post em up or shut the !@#$ up. bin Laden had "valid points" Thats the same !@#$ mindset that brings us wonderous bull **** like "Hitler also did a lot of good for Germany." Google his response to the Dubai Ports World bull ****. Not only were most of his observations dead-on, they were proven by the racist bigotry of the United States in that fiasco. There's several more, that I have neither the time nor the inclination to educate you on. But blindly insisting he never had an invalid point because you disagree with his chosen means ignores the very fundamental motivations behind Arab-Islamic violence, and is the prime reason the "war on terrorism" is completely unwinnable. So thanks for contributing to the problem, assmunch. pretty sure the law is the law on that and your wrong. Clearly you haven't read the law. who cares about Mccain and why does that matter? He was born on a US military base to US parents in the US panama canal zone under US governemnt authority at that time. The Canal Zone was leased from Panama, hence soverign Panamanian territory and not within US borders. Hence, if the "Obama's not natural-born because he was born outside US borders" argument is correct, then McCain is not natural born either. But they're both natural born citizens - the only requirement for being born a citizen is that you have one parent who's a US citizen that meets the residency requirements stated in the applicable law (INA 309, also 8 USC 1401), which, again, you clearly haven't read.
GG Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 Post em up or shut the !@#$ up. bin Laden had "valid points" Thats the same !@#$ mindset that brings us wonderous bull **** like "Hitler also did a lot of good for Germany." ... Ground Zero mosque ring any bells? .... The valid parallels between Hitler's & Osama's popularity is that both were able to parlay the plight of their people into a popular movements. Hitler wasn't wrong when he railed about Germany's standing in Europe following Versailles. How he went about fixing it and who was ultimately blamed, however ....
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