DC Tom Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 I agree with you, although I don't know how long they could have kept it under wraps. But apparently one high-level Al Qaida has already surrendered in Sauda Arabia: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110504/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_saudi_al_qaida. Hopefully more arrests/take-downs to follow. I heard a throw-away comment on the news yesterday from a talking head that everyone in the interview seemed to have missed: a whole bunch of al Qaeda gomers in Pakistan went on the run after the raid...and were scooped up at the Afghanistan border. Haven't seen it confirmed anywhere else...but if it's true, that's huge. That's would be a MUCH bigger coup than merely killing bin Laden.
whateverdude Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 I think that was announced last week... interesting coincidence They don't like Penetta over at the CIA. The take on him is that he's a very loyal lapdog of Obama's who will not so much as fart without first consulting with Obama. Petraeus is a different story, he's his own man and Obama does not trust him as much.
Gene Frenkle Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 They don't like Penetta over at the CIA. The take on him is that he's a very loyal lapdog of Obama's who will not so much as fart without first consulting with Obama. Petraeus is a different story, he's his own man and Obama does not trust him as much. Must be tough to be a partisan shill during weeks like this one. One really has to stretch one's mind to find things to B word about.
PromoTheRobot Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 I'm usually not a conspiracy monger but I'll dip my toe in that pool just once... Would Osama bin Laden be more useful alive? At least long enough to extract more information about al Qaida? And wouldn't it be easier to work on him in some secret location if everyone in the world believed he was dead? Just throwing that out there. PTR
Chef Jim Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 I'm usually not a conspiracy monger but I'll dip my toe in that pool just once... Would Osama bin Laden be more useful alive? At least long enough to extract more information about al Qaida? And wouldn't it be easier to work on him in some secret location if everyone in the world believed he was dead? Just throwing that out there. PTR I don't know. All we'd probably get out of him would be "Derka, derka...."
whateverdude Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 Must be tough to be a partisan shill during weeks like this one. One really has to stretch one's mind to find things to B word about. You are free to believe whatever you want even if it is pre-packaged and served with a bow on top.
erynthered Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 I'm usually not a conspiracy monger but I'll dip my toe in that pool just once... Would Osama bin Laden be more useful alive? At least long enough to extract more information about al Qaida? And wouldn't it be easier to work on him in some secret location if everyone in the world believed he was dead? Just throwing that out there. PTR Can we use the same things on him as we did on another terrorist that led to OBL camp? Just throwing it out there...........
DC Tom Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 I'm usually not a conspiracy monger but I'll dip my toe in that pool just once... Would Osama bin Laden be more useful alive? At least long enough to extract more information about al Qaida? And wouldn't it be easier to work on him in some secret location if everyone in the world believed he was dead? Just throwing that out there. PTR Conversely, would it be more useful to say "he's alive and cooperating" rather than say he's dead? Even if not believed, imagine what that would do to his organization...
KD in CA Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 I'm usually not a conspiracy monger but I'll dip my toe in that pool just once... Would Osama bin Laden be more useful alive? At least long enough to extract more information about al Qaida? And wouldn't it be easier to work on him in some secret location if everyone in the world believed he was dead? Just throwing that out there. PTR Well since we don't torture terrorists for information anymore I don't see how he could have been useful alive. I don't see OBL volunteering much info. If they were able to get a bunch of intel from the house plus any others they scooped up, than it's probably better off going the way it did.
Chef Jim Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 Well since we don't torture terrorists for information anymore I don't see how he could have been useful alive. I don't see OBL volunteering much info. If they were able to get a bunch of intel from the house plus any others they scooped up, than it's probably better off going the way it did. And by denouncing "enhanced" interrogation (what is that anyway, an upgrade to first class interrogation with comfy pillows?) this administration really screwed the pooch on that one.
erynthered Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 And by denouncing "enhanced" interrogation (what is that anyway, an upgrade to first class interrogation with comfy pillows?) this administration really screwed the pooch on that one. Geez, catch up, will ya? On the menu is the option of, Tap water or bottled water for their enhanced interrogation.
Gene Frenkle Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 You are free to believe whatever you want even if it is pre-packaged and served with a bow on top. And by denouncing "enhanced" interrogation (what is that anyway, an upgrade to first class interrogation with comfy pillows?) this administration really screwed the pooch on that one. Spin, spin, spin...and there it is! For all those who doubted for five minutes, Obama sucks again!
Chef Jim Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 Spin, spin, spin...and there it is! For all those who doubted for five minutes, Obama sucks again! Again? When did he stop sucking? And it's not Obama, it's this whole administration. Seeing how hard they came out against waterboarding they pretty much can't use in anymore can they? And from everything that I've heard it apprently worked. So yeah, they screwed the pooch.
Gene Frenkle Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 Again? When did he stop sucking? And it's not Obama, it's this whole administration. Seeing how hard they came out against waterboarding they pretty much can't use in anymore can they? And from everything that I've heard it apprently worked. So yeah, they screwed the pooch. You are obviously not part of the subset that I was referring to. You are also certainly entitled to your opinion on the merits of waterboarding.
DC Tom Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 You are obviously not part of the subset that I was referring to. You are also certainly entitled to your opinion on the merits of waterboarding. What with the likes of Hedd, pBills, and Jtsp posting here, I personally consider waterboarding a relaxation technique.
DaveinElma Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 You are obviously not part of the subset that I was referring to. You are also certainly entitled to your opinion on the merits of waterboarding. Are you really going to argue that OBL death hasn't vindicated waterboarding as a very effective interrogation method?
Jim in Anchorage Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 Who said anything about waterboarding? All I have read is the information came from CIA run prisions in unnamed East European country's, not Gitmo. The rack and thumb screws may have been just a warm up for all anyone knows.
Nanker Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 Spin, spin, spin...and there it is! For all those who doubted for five minutes, Obama sucks again! Well, the latest is that he was offed right after President BO took office and they put him on ice till he'd come in handy. They staged this now because BO's polls were sagging. - The Lunar Landing in New Mexico Foundation
PromoTheRobot Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 (edited) http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/4b3afc5c2f/president-bush-reacts-to-osama-bin-laden-s-death-with-will-ferrell?rel=player PTR Edited May 4, 2011 by PromoTheRobot
Chef Jim Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 You are obviously not part of the subset that I was referring to. You are also certainly entitled to your opinion on the merits of waterboarding. I think I was seeing that post was in response to my post. And to tell you the truth I'm ok with that.
Recommended Posts