BillsVet Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 The Bills have invested heavy resources into their DL and need to improve elsewhere as well. Bowers was rumored to require microfracture surgery and while that's not concrete, there are other options available at 34 like...Kyle Rudolph who might finally give the offense a player who can run the seam.
EldaBillsFan Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 IF the pats pass on Bowers we shouldn't..he's just too good! .... NO ones blames us if he doesn't workout...this is a once in a life time oppurity for this organization.... If bowers is able ..we could end up with a pair a lineman that could change everything ...
NoSaint Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 Considering he can play end in a 4-3 or 3-4, how does he not fit in the Bills system? Nope. You do realize that'd be a "if he adds weight" or "if he drops weight" situation, not a switch back and forth play by play situation. We have our 34 ends, and I'd venture won't play enough 43 to be worth the pick.
Bangarang Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 We'll see. There's just a ton of talent left to be upset over not picking a specific player.
Cotton Fitzsimmons Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 IF the pats pass on Bowers we shouldn't..he's just too good! .... NO ones blames us if he doesn't workout...this is a once in a life time oppurity for this organization.... If bowers is able ..we could end up with a pair a lineman that could change everything ... I completely agree. We could end up with 3 star caliber players across the line with Bowers/Williams/Dareus, and yes that would change everything. I realize Bowers is a roll of the dice, but at 34 you take it. If he pans out, our d-line could go from a major weakness to an absolute ass kicking machine. If you can win in the trenches you can turn things around quickly.
Cotton Fitzsimmons Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 A different type of Da'Quan Bowers post... very impressive young man: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQwgGup2JS0 P.S. - YE OLE believes we NEED this guy at 34!
reddogblitz Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 NICE !! I'm all for it if we're 100% certain his knee or whatever is OK. If we're not, then pass.
billsfan89 Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 Bowers as a 4-3 DE and as a 3-4 OLB is intriguing to say the least.
Cotton Fitzsimmons Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 NICE !! I'm all for it if we're 100% certain his knee or whatever is OK. If we're not, then pass. Agreed. There's definitely some risk, but I think this kid's upside far outweighs it. Here's another interview they did with him a week or so ago, he comes across as a very genuine young man. I'm definitely rooting for him. I hope we end up with him as a Bill. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lip0BsrBxNg&feature=relmfu
DUFF Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 I have some questions about Bowers that im sure some of you on this board can answer: 1. Does anyone know the extent of his knee injury? I know that he may have a degenerative knee problem, but im not sure exactly what that means. Does it mean that 5 years from now his knee will be shot? if so is the second round a good value for a 5yr. player that was ranked in the top 5 of this draft class? 2. Does he fit our 3-4 scheme? (i know he was a 4-3 player) where would he play? I apologize if this was posted already...but this inquiring mind wants to know. also with the addition of Dareus what does our front line look like (kyle-?troup?-dareus)?
LabattBlue Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 Reportedly has a bone on bone condition in one knee. Not good.
Justice Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 A little over 20 years ago the Buffalo Bills took a chance on an injured running back in the second round of the draft that many considered an elite talent with health concerns. What's the man's name, you ask? Thurman Thomas! Take a chance Buffalo, we've squandered second round picks on guys with much less talent.
LabattBlue Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 A little over 20 years ago the Buffalo Bills took a chance on an injured running back in the second round of the draft that many considered an elite talent with health concerns. What's the man's name, you ask? Thurman Thomas! Take a chance Buffalo, we've squandered second round picks on guys with much less talent. No one knows how Bowers knee condition compares to Thurman's. Therefore, the comparison doesn't make much sense.
Mike in Syracuse Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 Unless our medical staff thinks his knee is trashed I say we have to take him if he's there. Without the injury the guy is a legitimate top 5 talent. If he comes back from that knee injury he's a complete steal at #34.
PromoTheRobot Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 If his cartilage is shot there is no coming back. It would be a wasted pick. You think no one else knows his skill level? PTR
Ghost of Rob Johnson Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 Could have been a pre-draft smokescreen, but: April 10, 2011 - 3:40 PM ET The Bills' team doctor reportedly cleared Clemson DE Da'Quan Bowers' surgically repaired knee last week. This report allays concerns that the knee is in much worse condition than the Bowers camp has let on. Bowers reportedly had a "great meeting" with the Bills, and sources tell Yahoo's Doug Farrar that Denver and Buffalo are still interested. Though Farrar cautioned to take his report with a grain of salt, he also noted the Titans made it clear to Bowers that they would grab him at No. 8 if he's still on the board. The results of Bowers' medical recheck Friday in Indianapolis have not yet been released. http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/42521803/ns/sports-player_news/
SouthernMan Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 (edited) If his cartilage is shot there is no coming back. It would be a wasted pick. You think no one else knows his skill level? PTR Exactly right Promo. If it's a tendon, muscle tear, or even a fracture, these conditions can all be resolved with good medical attention, rehab, and training. But worn out cartlidge - it only gets worse. There's no fix beyond transplant surgery. That's why there are knee and hip replacements. If it's a cartlidge or ongoing degenerative condition, you pass. Too much risk. Edited April 29, 2011 by DML2005
HelloNewman Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 I am taking a anatomy and physiology class this semester and the rule of thumb regarding cartilage.....once cartilage is gone it does not heal and regenerate like other tissues in the body due to the fact it is not vascularized (ie: blood can reach the affected tissue and repair). Once it is gone it is gone. If Bowers has a lack of cartilage in his knee joint that is causing bone on bone friction and degeneration and possible arthritis...you can pretty much call him damaged goods. His knee will never return to normal since it is the cartilage that protects and covers the bones in the knee joint.
dollars 2 donuts Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 I am taking a anatomy and physiology class this semester and the rule of thumb regarding cartilage.....once cartilage is gone it does not heal and regenerate like other tissues in the body due to the fact it is not vascularized (ie: blood can reach the affected tissue and repair). Once it is gone it is gone. If Bowers has a lack of cartilage in his knee joint that is causing bone on bone friction and degeneration and possible arthritis...you can pretty much call him damaged goods. His knee will never return to normal since it is the cartilage that protects and covers the bones in the knee joint. You mean to tell me that in this day and age ACME hasn't come up with something to take the place of cartilage and jam in there?
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