3rdnlng Posted April 26, 2011 Posted April 26, 2011 http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704123204576283283851626952.html
DC Tom Posted April 26, 2011 Posted April 26, 2011 http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704123204576283283851626952.html After the strong-arming of the financial industry, and the bullying of BP, the only thing that shocks me about this is that they wrapped it in the trappings of legality. I'd sure like to know why, though...I have a hard time believing that HHS wants to ban Forest Labs from all government contracts because they pled guilty to a marketing violation. Still...it's less slimy than RICO'ing Drexel was back in the 80's.
/dev/null Posted April 26, 2011 Posted April 26, 2011 Like I said the other day, I've been revisiting Atlas Shrugged recently. Amazing how many parallels one can draw between a 50+ year old book and today.
IDBillzFan Posted April 26, 2011 Posted April 26, 2011 Oh, big deal. It's not like the National Labor Relations Board is trying to keep Boeing from moving production from Washington state to a a right-to-work state like South Carolina. Oh, wait.
DC Tom Posted April 26, 2011 Posted April 26, 2011 Oh, big deal. It's not like the National Labor Relations Board is trying to keep Boeing from moving production from Washington state to a a right-to-work state like South Carolina. Oh, wait. I'm just waiting for some major company to say "!@#$ you" and shut down their US operations completely. Boeing could move Dreamliner production to China, for example...
RkFast Posted April 26, 2011 Posted April 26, 2011 Oh, big deal. It's not like the National Labor Relations Board is trying to keep Boeing from moving production from Washington state to a a right-to-work state like South Carolina. Oh, wait. "The Obama Administration: Taking down every successful US business......one at a time."
finknottle Posted April 26, 2011 Posted April 26, 2011 Like I said the other day, I've been revisiting Atlas Shrugged recently. Amazing how many parallels one can draw between a 50+ year old book and today. I started reading it a few weeks ago, and it really resonates (I got side-tracked and am only 400 pages in). I am most struck by how the dialog of today's left, on issues such as justness and fairness, could have come straight out of the book. Between this link and the Boeing ruling, I'm not sure I even need to finish it.
Dante Posted April 26, 2011 Posted April 26, 2011 I started reading it a few weeks ago, and it really resonates (I got side-tracked and am only 400 pages in). I am most struck by how the dialog of today's left, on issues such as justness and fairness, could have come straight out of the book. Between this link and the Boeing ruling, I'm not sure I even need to finish it. btw also reading this book. Only 120 pages in. A little slow because I'm reading it while on my elliptical. Anyway, there is absolutely nothing new about Obama and his comrades ideas. Don't know why people still buy into the socialist ideal. Kinda like cheering for the Bills and expecting a different result.
LeviF Posted April 26, 2011 Posted April 26, 2011 Going to see the movie this afternoon. I heard that it sucked (as movies made from great books are wont to do). It'd be nice to have some opinions from people on here, though. Enjoy!
/dev/null Posted April 27, 2011 Posted April 27, 2011 I started reading it a few weeks ago, and it really resonates (I got side-tracked and am only 400 pages in). I am most struck by how the dialog of today's left, on issues such as justness and fairness, could have come straight out of the book. Between this link and the Boeing ruling, I'm not sure I even need to finish it. That's not a very fair thing for you to say. Ayn Rand has sold plenty of books. There are countless authors that haven't sold as many books as Ayn Rand. Has Nancy Pelosi sold as many books as Rand? You should go read something written by Pelosi, she hasn't gotten the same fair shake as Rand.
DC Tom Posted April 27, 2011 Posted April 27, 2011 That's not a very fair thing for you to say. Ayn Rand has sold plenty of books. There are countless authors that haven't sold as many books as Ayn Rand. Has Nancy Pelosi sold as many books as Rand? You should go read something written by Pelosi, she hasn't gotten the same fair shake as Rand. I just know there's a "we have to vote for it before we know what's in it" joke there...but !@#$itall, I just can't find it...
finknottle Posted April 27, 2011 Posted April 27, 2011 I heard that it sucked (as movies made from great books are wont to do). It'd be nice to have some opinions from people on here, though. Enjoy! Speaking as someone who was partly into his first reading of the book when I saw the movie, and enjoying it very much: I thought the movie was somewhere between disappointing and sucky. I fear that it will tarnish the books reputation. The movie missed what is for me a very important nuance. BigGov advocates were portrayed in a very obvious and cartoonish manner, with everything they said patently absurd. It should have portrayed their philosophy of justice and fairness in a more compelling manner, and they should have appeared to more genuinely believe what they say. The viewer needs to infer for themselves that the philosophy of fairness is an enticing first step whose logical conclusion is the stifling of creativity. In other words, instead of saying "BigGov types start out as well-meaning fools who altruistically sow the seeds of their societies destruction," the movie simply says "BigGov types are greedy and corrupt" with an inadequate explanation of how things got that way. As a result, the movie came off to me a bit like a Micheal Moore film, preaching to the choir. And for that reason, I fear an open-minded person is likely to discount the philosophy and take a pass on reading the book. [Note - I have not finished the book, but I find it hard to believe that the message is going to be that looters are born venal and lazy rather than corrupted by the state.] A few random comments: I thought the sets were above-budget, and the visuals quite good. The individual actors were hit-and-miss, mostly well-casted. The dialog was awkward, owing to their decision to faithfully follow it from the book.
pBills Posted April 27, 2011 Posted April 27, 2011 Oh, big deal. It's not like the National Labor Relations Board is trying to keep Boeing from moving production from Washington state to a a right-to-work state like South Carolina. Oh, wait. Oh my lord. So now the Government is strong arming, unions are strong arming... yet companies when they say give us every subsidy or tax break available or we'll go some where else... that's not strong arming. Ok. So obviously with the Boeing story there are two sides... one Boeing was simply moving there plant to South Carolina for business reasons... the other Boeing was doing it so that they didn't have to deal with Collective Bargaining Rights. Who knows. Obviously statements like this "The N.L.R.B. asserted that on numerous occasions Boeing officials had communicated an unlawful motive for transferring the production line, including an interview with The Seattle Times in which a Boeing executive said, “The overriding factor was not the business climate. And it was not the wages we’re paying today. It was that we cannot afford to have a work stoppage, you know, every three years.” Don't help anyone, Union or Boeing.
KD in CA Posted April 27, 2011 Posted April 27, 2011 Oh, big deal. It's not like the National Labor Relations Board is trying to keep Boeing from moving production from Washington state to a a right-to-work state like South Carolina. Oh, wait. Land of the FREE, baby!! America, !@#$ YEAH!! "The Obama Administration: Taking down every successful US business......one at a time." Don't worry, there are always more government union jobs and plenty of money to pay for them! Yes, we can!
pBills Posted April 27, 2011 Posted April 27, 2011 Land of the FREE, baby!! America, !@#$ YEAH!! Don't worry, there are always more government union jobs and plenty of money to pay for them! Yes, we can! Let's hope that the GOP wins... they'll keep companies in the U.S.!! They have the plan for job creation and the future of America!!
Dante Posted April 27, 2011 Posted April 27, 2011 (edited) Let's hope that the GOP wins... they'll keep companies in the U.S.!! They have the plan for job creation and the future of America!! Well, if the gop person that wins is conservative, the plan is simple. Foster a business and investment friendly environment. This on its own will create more investment and more jobs. Also, letting all citizens keep more of the money they earned will also lead to more spending. More jobs created there as well. One more thing. Until there is a better solution. Drill the F out of everywhere for oil. Hopefully this will stabilize and lower fuel prices lowering the costs of all goods. People again are able to keep more cash to save or spend. Simple isn't it? Edited April 27, 2011 by Dante
pBills Posted April 27, 2011 Posted April 27, 2011 Well, if the gop person that wins is conservative, the plan is simple. Foster a business and investment friendly environment. This on its own will create more investment and more jobs. Also, letting all citizens keep more of the money they earned will also lead to more spending. More jobs created there as well. One more thing. Until there is a better solution. Drill the F out of everywhere for oil. Hopefully this will stabilize and lower fuel prices lowering the costs of all goods. People again are able to keep more cash to save or spend. Simple isn't it? Problem drilling the F out of everywhere for oil is that plan would still take years to actually come to life. Meanwhile prices are still way to high. Problem with the GOP is that just like the Democrats they are letting the far right lead their party.
Wacka Posted April 27, 2011 Posted April 27, 2011 If we would have started in ANWR, the oil would be flowing already. The ecofreaks have been stalling it for >10 years.
3rdnlng Posted April 27, 2011 Author Posted April 27, 2011 If we would have started in ANWR, the oil would be flowing already. The ecofreaks have been stalling it for >10 years. But, but 10 years ago they said we wouldn't be able to benefit for.............10 years!
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