Keukasmallies Posted April 18, 2011 Posted April 18, 2011 A. Determine the total number of jobs to be created by the high speed rail initiative. B. Determine the total INITIAL amount of money dedicated to the high speed rail initiative. C. Divide B by A. D. Give each person identified in A an amount of money equal to the result of C over a twenty year period. Results: Long term jobs created with no labor strife; no cost over runs, no environmental impact, probably no impact on rail ridership, politicians can trumpet the creation of high paid jobs, and maybe, just maybe, Rep. Weezy Slaughter will STFU!
KD in CA Posted April 18, 2011 Posted April 18, 2011 Don't forget to factor in the part where the government has to bail out the airline union pensions because the airlines will blame high speed rail for a loss in business. Go government.
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted April 20, 2011 Posted April 20, 2011 maybe, just maybe, Rep. Weezy Slaughter will STFU! Wanna bet? http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20110416/OPINION02/104160312 "It's not just a more robust economy at stake. It's our national security as well."
Nanker Posted April 20, 2011 Posted April 20, 2011 If you build it, they will... pay, and pay, and pay, and pay.
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted October 23, 2011 Posted October 23, 2011 http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-bullet-train-20111023,0,2248881.story
....lybob Posted October 23, 2011 Posted October 23, 2011 (edited) We can't build high speed rail, that's for advanced countries in Europe,or Japan and China. Those nuts in China plan to invest $451 to $602 billion in its high-speed rail network between 2011 to 2015, don't those fools know money like that should only be spent for wars. I'm sure the hundreds of billions we spent in Iraq and Afghanistan will provide a much better payback than a stupid high speed rail system. Edited October 23, 2011 by ....lybob
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted October 23, 2011 Posted October 23, 2011 Those nuts in China plan to invest $451 to $602 billion in its high-speed rail network between 2011 to 2015, don't those fools know money like that should only be spent for wars. http://boards.fool.com/halt-in-chinese-rail-projects-29615805.aspx 'In the latest sign of trouble for China's multibillion-dollar rail ambitions, builders are being forced to suspend work on construction of more than 6,000 miles of railway as funds have dried up in a tight monetary environment and after a deadly July train crash, a senior railway company executive said. Railway builders are now facing a "serious problem" paying for work and materials needed to implement projects.'
DC Tom Posted October 23, 2011 Posted October 23, 2011 I hear those things are awfully loud Yeah, but if we're lucky the sound of the trains will drown them out.
....lybob Posted October 23, 2011 Posted October 23, 2011 http://boards.fool.com/halt-in-chinese-rail-projects-29615805.aspx 'In the latest sign of trouble for China's multibillion-dollar rail ambitions, builders are being forced to suspend work on construction of more than 6,000 miles of railway as funds have dried up in a tight monetary environment and after a deadly July train crash, a senior railway company executive said. Railway builders are now facing a "serious problem" paying for work and materials needed to implement projects.' Don't worry too much because BEIJING: China divested USD 36.5 billion or 3.1 per cent of its holding in the US treasuries in August, its biggest sell-off of dollar assets since 2000. China, Washington's biggest creditor, holds USD 1.137 trillion of US treasury debt. A recently released data by People's Bank of China showed that China holds about USD 3.2 trillion in total foreign exchange reserves, the largest in the world. because China has plenty of assets to draw on.
Alaska Darin Posted October 23, 2011 Posted October 23, 2011 High speed rail isn't for "advanced" countries. It's for TINY countries. The places where it's successful are generally the size of individual U.S. states with a very dense population. Germany's land mass is about the size of Montana, with a population density that is about triple that of California. Imagine shoehorning the populations of New York state, Texas, and California into Montana. That's Germany. Yeah, it's all about "advanced". Countries like Germany have virtually no choice on things like high speed rail, because they simply can't build an automotive infrastructure that would be cost effective. They already have intricate mass transit in each major metropolitan area, which makes arterial connections between those places even more feasible.** **This means when you take a high speed train between large European cities, you still have good transportation options available. In America, you're still pretty much stuck renting a car or taking taxis. Now factor in the exorbitant cost of train travel, coupled with the hassle of TSA, and voila, you have virtually no reason to ever get on a train. It's easy to sit back and pretend that "High Speed" rail would work in America because it works other places but there are VERY limited applications in this country where it may work. It's silly to waste the time or money on it, given what Amtrak has already taught us.
Magox Posted October 23, 2011 Posted October 23, 2011 Don't worry too much because because China has plenty of assets to draw on. So that's your response? Btw for you idiots... Alaskadarin hit the nail right on the head...it has to do with landmass, cost and economic feasibility...but please carry on with your strawman
KD in CA Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 So just curious, which of you left wing retards would be taking the "high speed rail" to work every day?
3rdnlng Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 So just curious, which of you left wing retards would be taking the "high speed rail" to work every day? lyrbob doesn't understand the question. He says, "what is this work you are talking about"?
Jim in Anchorage Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 So just curious, which of you left wing retards would be taking the "high speed rail" to work every day? Mass transit is a feel good thing for liberals. Look at me, I renounce the the individuality of a private car to join the masses on approved public transportion. Of course it fits in with their "Goverment knows best" mindset.
Wacka Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 The first part they want to build is from some ghost town to Corcoran, where Manson is locked up. The cost (without andy construction yet ) has shot up from 3.2 B to about 4.5 B.
Alaska Darin Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 We can't build high speed rail, that's for advanced countries in Europe,or Japan and China. Those nuts in China plan to invest $451 to $602 billion in its high-speed rail network between 2011 to 2015, don't those fools know money like that should only be spent for wars. I'm sure the hundreds of billions we spent in Iraq and Afghanistan will provide a much better payback than a stupid high speed rail system. So your solution to the government spending money on stupid things is to have them spend money on things that are, at best, only slightly less stupid? Brilliant.
Gary M Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 So your solution to the government spending money on stupid things is to have them spend money on things that are, at best, only slightly less stupid? Brilliant. At least the wars will eventually end, we will be paying for these trains indefinitely.
Pete Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 The ICE trains in Germany are faster then any train in the USA. 226 MPH is pretty damn fast in my book
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