NewEra Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 (edited) Listen up Buddy and company!! Heres the trade that will turn this franchise around. I know we'd actually giving up too much here according to the numbers, but it just might work out in our favor. Trade our 1st pick this year to the packers, for ALL of their picks the next 2 years. Our pick is worth 2200 POINTS, and all of the packers' are only worth 1067 this year and possibly the same next, if they win the super bowl. Imagine how good the packers would be if they got their hands on one of the guys available to them at 3 coming off a championship? Choose one of the following: Fairley, Miller (but they wouldn't take him cuz he's too small), Peterson, Green, Jordan or maybe even Dareus if he's there. They'd most likely be better than last year, hence keeping their total draft pick "value" at 1067. A grand total of 2134. We may be able to get them to throw in their 4th 6th and 7th pick from 2013 in as well to make it even. I don't see why the packers wouldn't do it, it's an even trade. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/news/story?id=2410670 Bills 1st pick- #3 overall- 2200 points. Packers picks- 1st (32)-590 points 2nd (64)-270 3rd (96)-116 4th (128) -44 5th (160)-28.4 6th (192)-15.6 3 7th (224)-1067 In summary, the NFL draft pick "values" aren't balanced. The top 3 picks are overvalued IMO. If there were a Peyton Manning, Ndamakung Suh AND Bruce Smith in every draft we could talk about this being balance, but thats not the case. Edited April 13, 2011 by NewEra
Justice Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 Sorry, dude, but you're insane to even suggest such a thing can happen.
NewEra Posted April 13, 2011 Author Posted April 13, 2011 (edited) Sorry, dude, but you're insane to even suggest such a thing can happen. Ya think? The values add up. Look at the chart. Edited April 13, 2011 by NewEra
Ghost of Rob Johnson Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 Sorry, dude, but you're insane to even suggest such a thing can happen. I think that's the point.
Mr. ChumChums Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 Ya think? The values add up. Look at the chart. Isn't that what the Saints did to draft Ricky Williams?
NewEra Posted April 13, 2011 Author Posted April 13, 2011 The saints only traded one years draft. We could get TWO entire drafts!!! For ONE pick!!
Mr. ChumChums Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 The saints only traded one years draft. We could get TWO entire drafts!!! For ONE pick!! The Saints also traded away the 1st and 3rd round picks of the FOLLOWING year also. Granted, that was for the #5 pick - we could totally get more
It's in My Blood Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 Listen up Buddy and company!! Heres the trade that will turn this franchise around. I know we'd actually giving up too much here according to the numbers, but it just might work out in our favor. Trade our 1st pick this year to the packers, for ALL of their picks the next 2 years. Our pick is worth 2200 POINTS, and all of the packers' are only worth 1067 this year and possibly the same next, if they win the super bowl. Imagine how good the packers would be if they got their hands on one of the guys available to them at 3 coming off a championship? Choose one of the following: Fairley, Miller (but they wouldn't take him cuz he's too small), Peterson, Green, Jordan or maybe even Dareus if he's there. They'd most likely be better than last year, hence keeping their total draft pick "value" at 1067. A grand total of 2134. We may be able to get them to throw in their 4th 6th and 7th pick from 2013 in as well to make it even. I don't see why the packers wouldn't do it, it's an even trade. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/news/story?id=2410670 Bills 1st pick- #3 overall- 2200 points. Packers picks- 1st (32)-590 points 2nd (64)-270 3rd (96)-116 4th (128) -44 5th (160)-28.4 6th (192)-15.6 3 7th (224)-1067 In summary, the NFL draft pick "values" aren't balanced. The top 3 picks are overvalued IMO. If there were a Peyton Manning, Ndamakung Suh AND Bruce Smith in every draft we could talk about this being balance, but thats not the case. I hope your joking. Delete this thread Mods.
NewEra Posted April 13, 2011 Author Posted April 13, 2011 I hope your joking. Delete this thread Mods. Did you not read the bottom of the post?
snamsnoops Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 Crack kills, also can a team have 15 or more picks in a draft?
NewEra Posted April 13, 2011 Author Posted April 13, 2011 Crack kills, also can a team have 15 or more picks in a draft? It doesn't matter if they can or not. It'll never ever ever happen. But according to the chart, there's no reason it shouldn't happen. It's even.
artmalibu Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 whats the point of this thread? Have the Pac even hinted that they would be interested in doing this.
NewEra Posted April 13, 2011 Author Posted April 13, 2011 whats the point of this thread? Have the Pac even hinted that they would be interested in doing this. "in summary....."
EastRochBillsfan Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 It doesn't matter if they can or not. It'll never ever ever happen. But according to the chart, there's no reason it shouldn't happen. It's even. Where's Mike Ditka when you need him?!
NewEra Posted April 13, 2011 Author Posted April 13, 2011 Wow. Ok i'll spell it out for those that only read part of the post, or read the whole thing, yet still can't comprehend. I think the NFL draft pick value chart is whack. I think it's whack because the trade I proposed is supposedly an "even" trade according to the chart. In another thread, I read some posters that think the chart is used by NFL Front Offices to help them gauge a potential trade. With regard to the top few picks, I have always felt that the asking price in a trade is a bit outrageous. I keep hearing that we should trade down 5 spots and get a 1st 2nd 3rd and a 5th for our 3rd overall pick. While I would LOVE for that to happen, I dont see it as realistic. I know if I was picking 8th, I sure as he'll wouldn't want to trade up to 3 and give up 4 picks in the process. In SOME rare cases, it may be worth it, but thats the exception, rather than the rule. This thread was made to illustrate that point. Whether or not you think my method of illustrating my point is irrelevant or not, It does make sense.
Malazan Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 Sorry, dude, but you're insane to even suggest such a thing can happen. Hey, not according to DreReed83, UticaBill, and Zulu Cthulhu. It is obvious to them that this is what all NFL teams use to make draft decisions.
AReed Deep For 7 Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 Did you not read the bottom of the post? Nope... lol but he did a good job making his point and making myself and everyone else feel stupid who didnt read the bottom
Tommy Posted April 14, 2011 Posted April 14, 2011 I definitely agree with you that the top picks are overvalued on the trade chart, but if anyone in the NFL does use that chart on draft day, I can see how it could be useful for trades that involve mid and late round picks. Like you said, no team is really going to move up like 3 or 4 spots up to #3 overall and mortgage their entire rest of the draft for it (except on the rarest of occasions)...so when it comes to the very top of the draft, the chart should go out the window and people should just use their common sense. On another note, I read the entire original post and I thought it was funny that everyone started flipping out..haha. Even without the bottom sentence, your post seemed to be poking fun at how ridiculous the value chart is near the top. Now watch it happen this year and make us all look silly
Johnny Hammersticks Posted April 14, 2011 Posted April 14, 2011 I think you wasted a lot of time and energy creating this thread. You are illustrating a point that should be obvious to anyone who is not a complete retard. Obviously the NFL draft pick value chart is just a tool used by teams to ESTIMATE the equity of a given trade involving a draft pick. The figures are not absolute, and of course the Packers are not going to trade all their draft picks for the next two years for the #3 this year. Your whole example is completely ridiculous. God, I can't wait for the draft!!
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