Gene Frenkle Posted April 11, 2011 Posted April 11, 2011 (edited) Do what you want with yourself - I guess...you're still a burden to the rest of us. When your neglecting your kids someone needs to step in, be it the government or otherwise. !@#$ing unfit clueless parents... All this talk about Motherment and "personal responsibility". WTF do you do when someone clearly can't be responsible for themselves and their dependents? Edited April 11, 2011 by Gene Frenkle
/dev/null Posted April 11, 2011 Posted April 11, 2011 Bingo. More brown bagging = Fewer school lunches served = Less free gubmint money that goes to the food vendor Not all school districts are geographically blessed
Rob's House Posted April 11, 2011 Posted April 11, 2011 Do what you want with yourself - I guess...you're still a burden to the rest of us. When your neglecting your kids someone needs to step in, be it the government or otherwise. !@#$ing unfit clueless parents... All this talk about Motherment and "personal responsibility". WTF do you do when someone clearly can't be responsible for themselves and their dependents? Hence the argument against socialized health care and welfare. At least people with health problems die early and therefore take less social security.
Chef Jim Posted April 11, 2011 Posted April 11, 2011 Do what you want with yourself - I guess...you're still a burden to the rest of us. When your neglecting your kids someone needs to step in, be it the government or otherwise. !@#$ing unfit clueless parents... All this talk about Motherment and "personal responsibility". WTF do you do when someone clearly can't be responsible for themselves and their dependents? How is this a situation where kids are being neglected? We're talking about brown bagging a lunch for God's sake.
Gene Frenkle Posted April 11, 2011 Posted April 11, 2011 How is this a situation where kids are being neglected? We're talking about brown bagging a lunch for God's sake. My contention is that having obese kids is akin to child abuse, or at least severe neglect. Sounds like the little fatties are brown bagging doughnuts and chili cheese dogs!
DC Tom Posted April 11, 2011 Posted April 11, 2011 Do what you want with yourself - I guess...you're still a burden to the rest of us. When your neglecting your kids someone needs to step in, be it the government or otherwise. !@#$ing unfit clueless parents... All this talk about Motherment and "personal responsibility". WTF do you do when someone clearly can't be responsible for themselves and their dependents? Define "clearly".
Gene Frenkle Posted April 11, 2011 Posted April 11, 2011 Define "clearly". When you have kids who are obese, by a reasonable standard like body fat percentage.
DC Tom Posted April 11, 2011 Posted April 11, 2011 When you have kids who are obese, by a reasonable standard like body fat percentage. So "clearly", by the reasonable standard of body fat percentage, any kid who's hypothyroidic and Type 1 diabetic has irresponsible parents.
DrFishfinder Posted April 12, 2011 Posted April 12, 2011 How is this a situation where kids are being neglected? We're talking about brown bagging a lunch for God's sake. Shouldn't the GAS (Great Almighty School) be teaching the kids what healthy food is so that the kids can educate their parents on what to make them for lunch? "MooOOooOooom.....I don't want the peanut butter and jelly sandwich....I want ...... wait for it........ it's killing you, isn't it....... oooOOooOOohhhgodooogodooogod..... 3........2..........1............... LENTILS!!!!!!!"
Gene Frenkle Posted April 12, 2011 Posted April 12, 2011 So "clearly", by the reasonable standard of body fat percentage, any kid who's hypothyroidic and Type 1 diabetic has irresponsible parents. I think you're being unreasonable here. Of course there would be exceptions for kids who are fat because of a medical condition. I don't think I really need to spell out the entire law to make a valid point.
Chef Jim Posted April 12, 2011 Posted April 12, 2011 (edited) I think you're being unreasonable here. Of course there would be exceptions for kids who are fat because of a medical condition. I don't think I really need to spell out the entire law to make a valid point. So the government will be testing or requiring proof as to why the child is overweight? You can stop now. With regard to the bolded part. Are you really suggesting we create a law making it illegal for parents to raise fat kids. And you're saying Tom is being unreasonable. Edited April 12, 2011 by Chef Jim
3rdnlng Posted April 12, 2011 Author Posted April 12, 2011 So the government will be testing or requiring proof as to why the child is overweight? You can stop now. With regard to the bolded part. Are you really suggesting we create a law making it illegal for parents to raise fat kids. And you're saying Tom is being unreasonable. I have come to believe that Frenkle is a Left-wing Fascist who somehow thinks that because of his atheism he is superior to those of us that aren't. In his mind he has all of the right answers and would like to impose his solutions on the rest of us.
DC Tom Posted April 12, 2011 Posted April 12, 2011 I think you're being unreasonable here. Of course there would be exceptions for kids who are fat because of a medical condition. I don't think I really need to spell out the entire law to make a valid point. You're the one making blanket generalizations. Now you've managed to extrapolate from that and one school's policy an entire law that requires each individual child be tested by a public organization for dietary requirements, in order to make up for "clearly" "bad" parenting. In the interests of saving money, no less.
Gene Frenkle Posted April 12, 2011 Posted April 12, 2011 You're the one making blanket generalizations. Now you've managed to extrapolate from that and one school's policy an entire law that requires each individual child be tested by a public organization for dietary requirements, in order to make up for "clearly" "bad" parenting. In the interests of saving money, no less. My assertion is that raising fat kids is akin to neglect or even child abuse. If a child has a thyroid condition or Type I Diabetes it will be documented. All children are not required to be publicly tested for neglect or abuse. There are (thankfully) laws as well as government organizations which deal with individual cases as necessary. I have come to believe that Frenkle is a Left-wing Fascist who somehow thinks that because of his atheism he is superior to those of us that aren't. In his mind he has all of the right answers and would like to impose his solutions on the rest of us. Did you read that on humanevents? You've got me all figured out...
3rdnlng Posted April 12, 2011 Author Posted April 12, 2011 My assertion is that raising fat kids is akin to neglect or even child abuse. If a child has a thyroid condition or Type I Diabetes it will be documented. All children are not required to be publicly tested for neglect or abuse. There are (thankfully) laws as well as government organizations which deal with individual cases as necessary. Did you read that on humanevents? You've got me all figured out... Did it all by myself. It's nice to know I got it right.
Gene Frenkle Posted April 12, 2011 Posted April 12, 2011 Did it all by myself. It's nice to know I got it right. Now who is it who, in his own mind, thinks he has all the right answers??? Hmmmm...
3rdnlng Posted April 12, 2011 Author Posted April 12, 2011 Now who is it who, in his own mind, thinks he has all the right answers??? Hmmmm... I said I got it right. I don't claim to have all the answers and even I did, I wouldn't try to impose them on you. That is where we differ.
Gene Frenkle Posted April 12, 2011 Posted April 12, 2011 I said I got it right. I don't claim to have all the answers and even I did, I wouldn't try to impose them on you. That is where we differ. What am I trying to impose on you exactly? Should action not be taken if a parent is starving their child?
3rdnlng Posted April 12, 2011 Author Posted April 12, 2011 What am I trying to impose on you exactly? Should action not be taken if a parent is starving their child? So, what is the ideal body fat percentage that you would like to legislate?
Gene Frenkle Posted April 12, 2011 Posted April 12, 2011 So, what is the ideal body fat percentage that you would like to legislate? Like I'm pulling all of this out of my ass or introducing some new radical idea by linking body fat percentage to obesity... For the sake of argument, let's say >35% for females and >30% for males. Maybe a bit higher, maybe not. If you meet that criteria, you are definitely a fat-ass. If your kid meets that criteria, you are not being a responsible parent. http://exercise.about.com/cs/weightloss/a/bodyfat.htm At what body fat percentage would you consider that a parent is starving his or her child?
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