1billsfan Posted April 10, 2011 Posted April 10, 2011 http://www.gbnreport.com/onsitevisits.html This is the most intriguing visit of them all. The Ravens are perhaps the best (along with the Steelers) at drafting. Best case scenario for the Ravens to trade up for Quinn is that he's still on the board at the Redskins #10 pick. How much would the price be for the Ravens to move up from #26 to #10? If they gave them their picks in all seven rounds (26th slot, not sure what additional picks they have) it still would not hit the 1300 points given to the #10th overall pick. But of course the Redskins would probably end up accepting picks in rounds 1-4 since they don't have many to begin with. A poll of Ravens fans had 54% of them wanting them to do it. Why do I bring this up? It tells me that the Ravens think that Quinn is potentially a special enough of player that he's worth mortgaging an entire draft for. Also, to my knowledge, the Ravens are rarely involved in trades. (A side note, the Patriots have much more ammo to make that kind of a move for Quinn and I've read a lot about Pats fans and media wanting them to do it. I think the Pats are laying in the weeds to cash in these chips they've collected if Quinn is there at #10 or even a couple spots sooner) If the Bills don't take Quinn, plan on seeing a major move up by either the Ravens or Patriots to take Quinn. I still think Quinn is going to be the much bigger impact player than Miller will be. I'm just providing some anecdotal evidence to this. The Ravens draft machine is no joke.
H2o Posted April 10, 2011 Posted April 10, 2011 http://www.gbnreport.com/onsitevisits.html This is the most intriguing visit of them all. The Ravens are perhaps the best (along with the Steelers) at drafting. Best case scenario for the Ravens to trade up for Quinn is that he's still on the board at the Redskins #10 pick. How much would the price be for the Ravens to move up from #26 to #10? If they gave them their picks in all seven rounds (26th slot, not sure what additional picks they have) it still would not hit the 1300 points given to the #10th overall pick. But of course the Redskins would probably end up accepting picks in rounds 1-4 since they don't have many to begin with. A poll of Ravens fans had 54% of them wanting them to do it. Why do I bring this up? It tells me that the Ravens think that Quinn is potentially a special enough of player that he's worth mortgaging an entire draft for. Also, to my knowledge, the Ravens are rarely involved in trades. (A side note, the Patriots have much more ammo to make that kind of a move for Quinn and I've read a lot about Pats fans and media wanting them to do it. I think the Pats are laying in the weeds to cash in these chips they've collected if Quinn is there at #10 or even a couple spots sooner) If the Bills don't take Quinn, plan on seeing a major move up by either the Ravens or Patriots to take Quinn. I still think Quinn is going to be the much bigger impact player than Miller will be. I'm just providing some anecdotal evidence to this. The Ravens draft machine is no joke. I too think that Quinn will end up being the best pass rusher from the DE spot or the OLB spot to come out of this draft.
Pete Posted April 10, 2011 Posted April 10, 2011 I predict that Quinn goes off board before Cam Newton
mrags Posted April 10, 2011 Posted April 10, 2011 Aaron Rodgers went very late in his draft. There's multiple examples of players falling late in the first round or even into the 2nd or 3rd rounds when they are projected to go in the first. I look at Quinn almost exactly like Willis McGahee actually. Would have been a top 3-5 pick if he didn't have his injury but we ended up getting him at 22. Quinn COULD fall late into the 1st and some team COULD get the steal of the draft if he does. The Ravens might not be looking to trade up at all. They just might think his brain issue along with his suspension issue drops him right into thier laps. Or he might be so damn good that they are looking to trade away every pick in this draft to get him. He might be that good. I think he's a monster personally.
Malazan Posted April 10, 2011 Posted April 10, 2011 I can't believe the Bills haven't already drafted him. Buddy asleep at the wheel again!
Thoner7 Posted April 10, 2011 Posted April 10, 2011 I wouldnt be suprised if Quinn fell all the way into the 20s, maybe even to 26. Not because he isnt good, but because he missed an entire year. So did Dez Bryant. Dez Bryant was a top 5 player on everyones board, and he fell into the 20s. Their suspensions where very similiar and not terrible charactor flaw/red flag type of suspensions (dez lying about chillen with Deon and Quinn accepting free airfare and lodging to train at some gym) Just with that its not hard to see Quinn fall in a similiar scenario. Quinn also had, and I believe still has, a benign brain tumor. That will likely take him off a few teams boards completely - which you hear about teams doing quite often.
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 10, 2011 Posted April 10, 2011 The Ravens are exactly the type of team that can draft Quinn. It is a risky pick but because of their stability, they won't killed for it. IMO, the Bills simply can't take a chance on a Player like Quinn.
1billsfan Posted April 10, 2011 Author Posted April 10, 2011 The Ravens are exactly the type of team that can draft Quinn. It is a risky pick but because of their stability, they won't killed for it. IMO, the Bills simply can't take a chance on a Player like Quinn. If the Ravens think he's that good, the Bills wouldn't exactly be "taking a chance". Also, if Miller is so good and is such a can't miss prospect, wouldn't teams to be trying to trade up to the Broncos pick to get ahead of the Bills who everyone has as the team taking Miller? If you don't see any rumors of such heading into the draft, that should tell you he's not this overwhelming can't miss guy that all the experts project.
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 10, 2011 Posted April 10, 2011 Billsfan, the Ravens have missed on high picks - Kindle, Clayton, & Boller. But they are such good drafters, that missing on a guy won't kill them. IMO, after the Maybin mess, spending a high pick on a guy who hasn't played in 2 years & only has one year of production would be extremely foolish.
1billsfan Posted April 10, 2011 Author Posted April 10, 2011 Billsfan, the Ravens have missed on high picks - Kindle, Clayton, & Boller. But they are such good drafters, that missing on a guy won't kill them. IMO, after the Maybin mess, spending a high pick on a guy who hasn't played in 2 years & only has one year of production would be extremely foolish. What would be extremely foolish would be to spend a high pick on an undersized one move rush OLB like Maybin. BTW, Quinn has only been away for one year not two. When a team like the Ravens contemplates mortgaging an entire draft, that tells you the risk of that player is minimal at best. There's nothing non-risky about doing something like that.
Tim Anderson's Lunch Pail Posted April 10, 2011 Posted April 10, 2011 I think the only that Quinn visiting the Ravens means is that they are doing their due diligence. You are probably reading a little too far into it.
Ghost of Rob Johnson Posted April 10, 2011 Posted April 10, 2011 (edited) What would be extremely foolish would be to spend a high pick on an undersized one move rush OLB like Maybin. BTW, Quinn has only been away for one year not two. When a team like the Ravens contemplates mortgaging an entire draft, that tells you the risk of that player is minimal at best. There's nothing non-risky about doing something like that. You're jumping to conclusions. Merely bringing him in for a visit does not tell us that they are contemplating anything. It means they wanted to meet with him. In fact, as some have said, it could tell you that they could consider him falling to pick 26. Also, I hate that almost all of Quinn's production his sophomore year came against inferior opponents. Edited April 10, 2011 by Ghost of Rob Johnson
1billsfan Posted April 10, 2011 Author Posted April 10, 2011 You're jumping to conclusions. Merely bringing him in for a visit does not tell us that they are contemplating anything. It means they wanted to meet with him. In fact, as some have said, it could tell you that they could consider him falling to pick 26. Also, I hate that almost all of Quinn's production his sophomore year came against inferior opponents. The Ravens are sitting at #26. It's not as if they are smoke screening so a team would draft Quinn ahead of them moving back the player they really want. The mere fact that they had him in tells us that they are contemplating it. If they weren't, then that would be a colossal waste of time. The Ravens shouldn't be striking you as a team that wastes time during draft season.
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 10, 2011 Posted April 10, 2011 (edited) http://www.gbnreport.com/onsitevisits.html This is the most intriguing visit of them all. The Ravens are perhaps the best (along with the Steelers) at drafting. Best case scenario for the Ravens to trade up for Quinn is that he's still on the board at the Redskins #10 pick. How much would the price be for the Ravens to move up from #26 to #10? If they gave them their picks in all seven rounds (26th slot, not sure what additional picks they have) it still would not hit the 1300 points given to the #10th overall pick. But of course the Redskins would probably end up accepting picks in rounds 1-4 since they don't have many to begin with. A poll of Ravens fans had 54% of them wanting them to do it. Why do I bring this up? It tells me that the Ravens think that Quinn is potentially a special enough of player that he's worth mortgaging an entire draft for. Also, to my knowledge, the Ravens are rarely involved in trades. (A side note, the Patriots have much more ammo to make that kind of a move for Quinn and I've read a lot about Pats fans and media wanting them to do it. I think the Pats are laying in the weeds to cash in these chips they've collected if Quinn is there at #10 or even a couple spots sooner) If the Bills don't take Quinn, plan on seeing a major move up by either the Ravens or Patriots to take Quinn. I still think Quinn is going to be the much bigger impact player than Miller will be. I'm just providing some anecdotal evidence to this. The Ravens draft machine is no joke. Why not I say. 1st - Robert Quinn 2nd - Christian Ballard/Martez Wilson Edited April 10, 2011 by TheTruthHurts
Ghost of Rob Johnson Posted April 10, 2011 Posted April 10, 2011 (edited) The Ravens are sitting at #26. It's not as if they are smoke screening so a team would draft Quinn ahead of them moving back the player they really want. The mere fact that they had him in tells us that they are contemplating it. If they weren't, then that would be a colossal waste of time. The Ravens shouldn't be striking you as a team that wastes time during draft season. They could meet with him for any number of reasons. Perhaps during their interview they'll ask questions regarding Marvin Austin or Bruce Carter. Perhaps they feel he's a player that could fall to pick 26. Edited April 10, 2011 by Ghost of Rob Johnson
NewEra Posted April 10, 2011 Posted April 10, 2011 What would be extremely foolish would be to spend a high pick on an undersized one move rush OLB like Maybin. BTW, Quinn has only been away for one year not two. When a team like the Ravens contemplates mortgaging an entire draft, that tells you the risk of that player is minimal at best. There's nothing non-risky about doing something like that. The ravens are bringing in Quinn for a visit. How does that mean that they are contemplating mortgaging their entire draft? And how does that mean that he's not a risky pick? He missed and entire year, in which the only thing he needed to do is train for the combine, in which is was somewhat disappointing to me, considering that he supposedly ran a sub 4.4 at one time. He had 1 more rep in the bench press than a supposed midget. He had 1 good Year of college football, in which he only played well against 1 good team, and had 80% of his production vs scrubs. I think he has the tools to be a great player, but he is most definitely risky. Now, because the raven brought him in for a visit, he's a low risk player that the ravens are considering mortgaging their entire draft on. The conclusions you jump too are astonishing. Wake up The Ravens are sitting at #26. It's not as if they are smoke screening so a team would draft Quinn ahead of them moving back the player they really want. The mere fact that they had him in tells us that they are contemplating it. If they weren't, then that would be a colossal waste of time. The Ravens shouldn't be striking you as a team that wastes time during draft season. Splash some cold water on your face man
Ramius Posted April 10, 2011 Posted April 10, 2011 Or, the most likely scenario is that the Ravens are doing their due diligence and believe he'll fall down into the 20s.
PDaDdy Posted April 10, 2011 Posted April 10, 2011 People talked a lot of smack about Brian Orakpo and the strength of his program, competition and conference. Unfair or not I can't help but look at this is 2011 version of Maybin vs Orakpo. Obviously it's not exactly the same but DAMN I would really hate to make the mistake of drafting the smaller pass rush specialist when our biggest problem is stopping the run. Orakpo and Maybin are 2 different people from 2 years ago but it seems like we have a chance to atone for a past sin. For all the talk about pass rushing specialists and quickness Orakpo was a phenomenal pass rusher as well as being good against the run.
danbaldo Posted April 10, 2011 Posted April 10, 2011 I predict that Quinn goes off board before Cam Newton That's a bold statement, but I love it. I too believe Quinn is a stud.
DreReed83 Posted April 15, 2011 Posted April 15, 2011 The more I think about it, if we don't take Gabbert and Dareus is gone, Quinn should be our guy.
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