Clippers of Nfl Posted April 5, 2011 Posted April 5, 2011 So baseball is boring, but you enjoy a bunch of grown men (who can't keep time) run around for a couple of hours and score 1 time every 3 games, while they flop and whine like giant crybabies if someone comes within 3 feet of them? At least baseball requires skill. Soccer is for those too uncoordinated to use their hands in real sports. what the?? football doesnt require skill? i think the whole sport requires skill, thought, and execution. yes even the fat asses up front play a delicate balance of skill and kick ass. lol. how about throwing a football to someone in stride? kickers needs skill too. how about cbs who are skilled at intercepting. timing and jumping in front of the ball at the right moment. no skill there? as far as your soccer comment.... you need to check you tube and look up lionel messi or ronaldinho to see the kind of "uncoordinated" and super crazy things they do with their feet. plus have you ever played it? it takes stamina to last even 10 freaking minutes.
Ramius Posted April 5, 2011 Posted April 5, 2011 what the?? football doesnt require skill? i think the whole sport requires skill, thought, and execution. yes even the fat asses up front play a delicate balance of skill and kick ass. lol. how about throwing a football to someone in stride? kickers needs skill too. how about cbs who are skilled at intercepting. timing and jumping in front of the ball at the right moment. no skill there? as far as your soccer comment.... you need to check you tube and look up lionel messi or ronaldinho to see the kind of "uncoordinated" and super crazy things they do with their feet. plus have you ever played it? it takes stamina to last even 10 freaking minutes. I was talking about baseball versus soccer. Saying baseball is boring but soccer is awesome is about as laughable as it gets. If Rohnaldinho or Messi had real skills and coordination, they'd play real sports like football or hockey, and not kickball. Soccer is the only sport where the game is exactly the same if you're watching 5 year olds play it or watching the top leagues play it. A bunch of people chasing a ball around a giant field, lots of falling, and sometimes the ball goes into the net.
bbb Posted April 5, 2011 Posted April 5, 2011 Not very often. How anybody can think soccer is more watchable than baseball is beyond me.
Pete Posted April 5, 2011 Posted April 5, 2011 Anyone in FIFA has big time skills. I would love to see a soccer hater try and hit a one timer 40 yard rocket with their left foot. Or place a ball directly on a running players foot 50 yards down the field in stride. Or take a pass over your head and bicycle kick it for a goal. Or bend it like Roberto Carlos. Or try and play midfield for a half. Anyone who thinks soccer players don't have skill is ignorant
Chef Jim Posted April 5, 2011 Posted April 5, 2011 Anyone in FIFA has big time skills. I would love to see a soccer hater try and hit a one timer 40 yard rocket with their left foot. Or place a ball directly on a running players foot 50 yards down the field in stride. Or take a pass over your head and bicycle kick it for a goal. Or bend it like Roberto Carlos. Or try and play midfield for a half. Anyone who thinks soccer players don't have skill is ignorant How often does that happen versus a shortstop diving to the hole to barely snag a speeding grounder get up and just getting the runner at first. Both sports require mean skills but in soccer they're just not demostrated very often. In baseball you can get several plays like that in one inning.
Clippers of Nfl Posted April 5, 2011 Posted April 5, 2011 I was talking about baseball versus soccer. Saying baseball is boring but soccer is awesome is about as laughable as it gets. If Rohnaldinho or Messi had real skills and coordination, they'd play real sports like football or hockey, and not kickball. Soccer is the only sport where the game is exactly the same if you're watching 5 year olds play it or watching the top leagues play it. A bunch of people chasing a ball around a giant field, lots of falling, and sometimes the ball goes into the net. nice try. but no. Anyone in FIFA has big time skills. I would love to see a soccer hater try and hit a one timer 40 yard rocket with their left foot. Or place a ball directly on a running players foot 50 yards down the field in stride. Or take a pass over your head and bicycle kick it for a goal. Or bend it like Roberto Carlos. Or try and play midfield for a half. Anyone who thinks soccer players don't have skill is ignorant very ignorant. just on stamina alone, they're done. How often does that happen versus a shortstop diving to the hole to barely snag a speeding grounder get up and just getting the runner at first. Both sports require mean skills but in soccer they're just not demostrated very often. In baseball you can get several plays like that in one inning. we are still talking about the nasty fat ass pigs, slobs, losers, and spitting diks that have no eating manners right? in baseball if you have a fast arm, that's it. you have the right to be a pig. f that!
HopsGuy Posted April 6, 2011 Posted April 6, 2011 nice try. but no. very ignorant. just on stamina alone, they're done. we are still talking about the nasty fat ass pigs, slobs, losers, and spitting diks that have no eating manners right? in baseball if you have a fast arm, that's it. you have the right to be a pig. f that! The best athletes go to the sports popular in their culture. I'm sure there were a few dudes flying down the Alps in Switzerland that might have made decent middle-infielders... it just didn't work out for them. You like soccer, good for you. Me? I like America. Sports invented here include Baseball, Football (our style) & Basketball. (Whatchoo got?) Much of the rest of the world has adopted these sports. Also born in America: The light bulb, the phonograph, moving pictures (thanks Tom), AC current (which allows us to enjoy these things, thanks George, Nickola). Radio, TV (thanks Philo), the Internet (thanks a bunch of people including Paul Baran, who died last week) that's how we follow our sports. Tons of other stuff, too (thanks Steve Jobs). Baseball is entirely different than every other sport. Think about it. The defense holds the ball. There's no clock, the game is timed in outs. Way more games than any other sport and we're fine with it. Different doesn't mean better or worse - just different. Disclaimer: Soccer ain't so bad. The rules provide for flopping, so that's what they do. The NBA has the same problem.
Chef Jim Posted April 6, 2011 Posted April 6, 2011 nice try. but no. very ignorant. just on stamina alone, they're done. we are still talking about the nasty fat ass pigs, slobs, losers, and spitting diks that have no eating manners right? in baseball if you have a fast arm, that's it. you have the right to be a pig. f that! Eating manners?? Don't tell me you wait tables next to Yankee stadium don't you. !@#$ing waiters.
Gordio Posted April 6, 2011 Posted April 6, 2011 nice try. but no. very ignorant. just on stamina alone, they're done. we are still talking about the nasty fat ass pigs, slobs, losers, and spitting diks that have no eating manners right? in baseball if you have a fast arm, that's it. you have the right to be a pig. f that! That is a pretty ignorant statement also. I have heard many times that hitting a 98 mph fastball is the toughest thing to do in all of sports. I tend to agree with that statement.
dib Posted April 6, 2011 Posted April 6, 2011 How anybody can think soccer is more watchable than baseball is beyond me. To me, any sport that goes on for 3 hours and ends up 1-0 is boring.
dayman Posted April 6, 2011 Posted April 6, 2011 Soccer is not something I watch all the time, but come World Cup time it's WILDLY entertaining. How you Buffalonians who love Hockey can bash soccer the way you have is beyond me. Hitting professional pitching is long considered the toughest thing in sports...but that's a niche skill. Making plays in the infield or diving the outfield is NOTHING compared to what the world class soccer players do. The best athletes in the world play in the NBA, beyond that they play world class soccer. PERIOD. Football has unbelievable athletes too but there are a lot of guys in football that are overly specialized like baseball (football is still full of far better athletes than baseball...as is hockey). Bottom line in terms of athletes to me it goes: NBA > Top Soccer > Football > Hockey > Baseball That's the team sports rankings. Like it or not, baseball players are in no way superior athletes to soccer players (as only a few have said here) and to me soccer is more entertaining. I have no interest really in a baseball or soccer team...to me a neutral observer...soccer is better.
bbb Posted April 6, 2011 Posted April 6, 2011 How anybody can think soccer is more watchable than baseball is beyond me. To me, any sport that goes on for 3 hours and ends up 1-0 is boring. It's not just that it's 1-0. A hockey game can end up 1-0 and still have a million scoring opportunities and non-stop meaningful action............When a soccer game ends up 1-0 (and when doesn't a soccer game end up 1-0), there were probably 4-5 times to get excited that there might be a score, at the most.
dayman Posted April 6, 2011 Posted April 6, 2011 It's not just that it's 1-0. A hockey game can end up 1-0 and still have a million scoring opportunities and non-stop meaningful action............When a soccer game ends up 1-0 (and when doesn't a soccer game end up 1-0), there were probably 4-5 times to get excited that there might be a score, at the most. It's not just scoring opportunities. It's opportunities to generate scoring opportunities ect...c'mon now football games can be end 14-10 and have been a great game with amazing defense, strategic field position strategy and so on...in terms of entertainment scoring is over-rated. Think about how big a deal a world cup goal can be? If you miss a shot or mishit a pass to a streaking striker then that's a huge deal b/c of how big a deal the goal itself would have been. If a defender makes a great play destroying an opportunity that's a huge deal. Soccer has drama, 1-0 or not...more than baseball.
Chef Jim Posted April 6, 2011 Posted April 6, 2011 It's not just scoring opportunities. It's opportunities to generate scoring opportunities ect...c'mon now football games can be end 14-10 and have been a great game with amazing defense, strategic field position strategy and so on...in terms of entertainment scoring is over-rated. Think about how big a deal a world cup goal can be? If you miss a shot or mishit a pass to a streaking striker then that's a huge deal b/c of how big a deal the goal itself would have been. If a defender makes a great play destroying an opportunity that's a huge deal. Soccer has drama, 1-0 or not...more than baseball. Chicks dig drama. 'Nuff said.
bbb Posted April 6, 2011 Posted April 6, 2011 It's not just scoring opportunities. It's opportunities to generate scoring opportunities ect...c'mon now football games can be end 14-10 and have been a great game with amazing defense, strategic field position strategy and so on...in terms of entertainment scoring is over-rated. Think about how big a deal a world cup goal can be? If you miss a shot or mishit a pass to a streaking striker then that's a huge deal b/c of how big a deal the goal itself would have been. If a defender makes a great play destroying an opportunity that's a huge deal. Soccer has drama, 1-0 or not...more than baseball. Baseball has the most drama of any sport........And, yeah, the scoring is overrated, but the opportunities are not. There are very few in soccer. It's ridiculous to play that long and have that one goal be that big of a deal, like you say.........And, then the scorer runs into a corner at full speed while the rest of the team follows him, and they jump all over each other for about three minutes, while the clock is still running. Ridiculous........Then, a 1-0 lead is like a 24-0 lead in football. It's pretty over. In baseball, it's never over. You HAVE to get every out to end the game. And, runs can be scored up to 4 at a time, not one at a time.
dayman Posted April 6, 2011 Posted April 6, 2011 Baseball has the most drama of any sport........And, yeah, the scoring is overrated, but the opportunities are not. There are very few in soccer. It's ridiculous to play that long and have that one goal be that big of a deal, like you say.........And, then the scorer runs into a corner at full speed while the rest of the team follows him, and they jump all over each other for about three minutes, while the clock is still running. Ridiculous........Then, a 1-0 lead is like a 24-0 lead in football. It's pretty over. In baseball, it's never over. You HAVE to get every out to end the game. And, runs can be scored up to 4 at a time, not one at a time. As you know (I hope) the refs hit their timer and add extra time for the amount of celebration, injury, and otherwise wasted game time running off the clock. In many ways it is better than stopping the clock all the time...helps keep the game moving. Soccer is about the only sport that cares about that anymore. As for baseball, yeah if you have the bases loaded in a the bottom of the 9th in a playoff game then there's some drama. But that's rare. If you have penalty kicks in the World Cup final that's also drama. Not as rare.
Chef Jim Posted April 6, 2011 Posted April 6, 2011 As you know (I hope) the refs hit their timer and add extra time for the amount of celebration, injury, and otherwise wasted game time running off the clock. In many ways it is better than stopping the clock all the time...helps keep the game moving. Soccer is about the only sport that cares about that anymore. As for baseball, yeah if you have the bases loaded in a the bottom of the 9th in a playoff game then there's some drama. But that's rare. If you have penalty kicks in the World Cup final that's also drama. Not as rare. A penalty kick in soccer would be the equivalent of a baseball game being decided by taking all the players off the field except the pitcher catcher and batter. Now that would be silly wouldn't it?
The Poojer Posted April 6, 2011 Posted April 6, 2011 I think baseball is an incredible sport to watch...much like many other sports, the game as a whole may not be the most exciting thing, but there are so many games within the game that are so much fun to watch. Last night for instance, the yankee/twins game, guy on second 1 out(i think), ball gets hit on a rope to right field, nick swisher catches it, does his crow hop and fires the ball to 3rd base. The runner never intended on going to 3rd(as it turns out), but ARod caught the ball in the perfect spot had the runner tagged and slid into the base. It was far more interesting to watch that 'non-play' than it is to watch most at bats. If you want to get a good grasp of the games little nuances, read george wills 'men at play', its a great baseball book, and not too difficult to read despite george wills verbosity
bbb Posted April 6, 2011 Posted April 6, 2011 As you know (I hope) the refs hit their timer and add extra time for the amount of celebration, injury, and otherwise wasted game time running off the clock. In many ways it is better than stopping the clock all the time...helps keep the game moving. Soccer is about the only sport that cares about that anymore. Yeah, they do the timer thing, but it seemed to me every WC I watched last year always had injury time set at three minutes, so it really didn't matter what time was actually wasted.....And, then the part where nobody knows how much time is left but the ref. That is ridiculous. The thing about keeping the clock moving, I also disagree with. I've been to a ton of my niece's games, and it's so much a part of the game to waste that clock in non-playing situations when you're milking a lead. Subbing for the player furthest from the field, etc. They waste so much time where they don't have to actually be playing and "it's all part of the game." You can't get away with that in hockey or baseball for two examples. You have to actually play the game to end it. I do think hockey is the best at keeping the game going. Just one timeout - hoops is ridiculous - and the action is non-stop. Real time is very close to game time. A penalty kick in soccer would be the equivalent of a baseball game being decided by taking all the players off the field except the pitcher catcher and batter. Now that would be silly wouldn't it? And, the pitcher dives to one side of the mound right after he pitches it, hoping that they ball comes that way and he snags it.
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