Nanker Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 Actually making things is so third world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 Actually making things is so third world. I know comrade. The advanced societies let the government pay everybody to perform their role in society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 I love this board. The usual people complaining about workers, the middle-class and others. The only group of people that is hard working and deserves anything is the wealthy right? HAHA!! Here's something for you all to bash and say how wrong it is: http://www.stanford.edu/group/scspi/cgi-bin/facts.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 I love this board. The usual people complaining about workers, the middle-class and others. The only group of people that is hard working and deserves anything is the wealthy right? HAHA!! Here's something for you all to bash and say how wrong it is: http://www.stanford.edu/group/scspi/cgi-bin/facts.php Then we have the quasi-marxists such as yourself who dismiss any kind of scientific approach to economics and politics in favor of blind adherence to a philosophy you adopted long before you had the knowledge to make an informed assesment of the situation. Funny how your party of the people has controlled Congress for the last 4 yrs and the WH for the last 2, and economic conditions continue to worsen for the bulk of Americans, yet the richest among us continue to prosper at an increasing rate. But hey, let's rush to defend our team anyway, while simultaneously ripping those who oppose for having a team mentality. HAHA!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 I love this board. The usual people complaining about workers, the middle-class and others. The only group of people that is hard working and deserves anything is the wealthy right? HAHA!! Here's something for you all to bash and say how wrong it is: http://www.stanford....i-bin/facts.php And this post has exactly what to do with the size of the government? Care to comment on that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 And this post has exactly what to do with the size of the government? Care to comment on that? But the link has "facts" in the URL. Come on dude, how can you argue with "facts" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 Then we have the quasi-marxists such as yourself who dismiss any kind of scientific approach to economics and politics in favor of blind adherence to a philosophy you adopted long before you had the knowledge to make an informed assesment of the situation. Funny how your party of the people has controlled Congress for the last 4 yrs and the WH for the last 2, and economic conditions continue to worsen for the bulk of Americans, yet the richest among us continue to prosper at an increasing rate. But hey, let's rush to defend our team anyway, while simultaneously ripping those who oppose for having a team mentality. HAHA!! I will agree that democrats have screwed up. No doubt. But this attack on the middle-class and union (usually democratic voters) is ridiculous. So I decide not to defend Democrats... I go with team Republican. That means I am ONLY pro CEO and Corporations, not workers, I am against women's rights and I am against the majority of social programs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 I will agree that democrats have screwed up. No doubt. But this attack on the middle-class and union (usually democratic voters) is ridiculous. So I decide not to defend Democrats... I go with team Republican. That means I am ONLY pro CEO and Corporations, not workers, I am against women's rights and I am against the majority of social programs. I'm glad you've finally seen the light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 I'm glad you've finally seen the light yeah, it comes from that black hole people call a heart. The one thing I will never do is fall into that F everyone except themselves mindset that many Republicans have. Of course they will say that decisions/opinions are being formed to make the country stronger. I wonder who they are making the country stronger for? Obviously not everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 yeah, it comes from that black hole people call a heart. The one thing I will never do is fall into that F everyone except themselves mindset that many Republicans have. Of course they will say that decisions/opinions are being formed to make the country stronger. I wonder who they are making the country stronger for? Obviously not everyone. Ah yes, the old pBills 'my argument has no logic or reason so I'll try the old 'have a heart' trick' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 Ah yes, the old pBills 'my argument has no logic or reason so I'll try the old 'have a heart' trick' It's like the fella says, if you're not a lib at 20 you have no heart. If you're still a lib at 40 you have no brain. I wonder how old p is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 It's like the fella says, if you're not a lib at 20 you have no heart. If you're still a lib at 40 you have no brain. I wonder how old p is. I dunno, but I'm pretty sure he has neither since he equates having a 'heart' with not having money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 So, you would propose laws that would make it more difficult for a private enterprise to move its manufacturing wherever it best suits them? Wouldn't it be much better for the government to make changes in its tax structure and regulations so that companies want to be here? How about making it so foreign companies want to locate here? Seems to me they're relocating for cheap labor, so yes - I would propose laws that would make it more difficult for a private enterprise to move its manufacturing outside of the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 I love this board. The usual people complaining about workers, the middle-class and others. The only group of people that is hard working and deserves anything is the wealthy right? HAHA!! Here's something for you all to bash and say how wrong it is: http://www.stanford.edu/group/scspi/cgi-bin/facts.php Not the best source for economic facts, but the Stanford Center for the Study of Poverty and Inequality is one of the single biggest generators of irony on the planet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 Seems to me they're relocating for cheap labor, so yes - I would propose laws that would make it more difficult for a private enterprise to move its manufacturing outside of the US. That sounds too restrictive, and as a result a company can relocate its business elsewhere and these sort of "laws" that would make it more difficult to produce elsewhere would be all for not. What would work better is creating incentives for companies to produce over here. Incentives are much more motivational than punishing measures. Incentives Incentives Incentives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 That sounds too restrictive, and as a result a company can relocate its business elsewhere and these sort of "laws" that would make it more difficult to produce elsewhere would be all for not. What would work better is creating incentives for companies to produce over here. Incentives are much more motivational than punishing measures. Incentives Incentives Incentives I'm aware that I don't know as much about this stuff as you, but it seems to me that really cheap labor is a pretty good incentive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 That sounds too restrictive, and as a result a company can relocate its business elsewhere and these sort of "laws" that would make it more difficult to produce elsewhere would be all for not. What would work better is creating incentives for companies to produce over here. Incentives are much more motivational than punishing measures. Incentives Incentives Incentives 75+% American work force or the company is treated as a foreign entity in regards to participating in the American political process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 75+% American work force or the company is treated as a foreign entity in regards to participating in the American political process. I'm not talking about that. I'm aware that I don't know as much about this stuff as you, but it seems to me that really cheap labor is a pretty good incentive. It's tough to overcome the cheap labor obstacle, which is why that there is an even greater need to provide additional incentives for companies to invest here, rather than place additional restrictive measures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 It's tough to overcome the cheap labor obstacle, which is why that there is an even greater need to provide additional incentives for companies to invest here, rather than place additional restrictive measures. So provide incentives to manufacturing here and selling here as opposed to providing disincentives to manufacturing elsewhere and selling here. Seems like either could provide the same result, but that's picking nits (maybe). So what incentives would you propose that would actually make a difference? If the goal is to avoid mandating disincentives... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 So provide incentives to manufacturing here and selling here as opposed to providing disincentives to manufacturing elsewhere and selling here. Seems like either could provide the same result, but that's picking nits (maybe). So what incentives would you propose that would actually make a difference? If the goal is to avoid mandating disincentives... http://www.idaireland.com/why-ireland/tax/ Maybe go to the top of that list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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