3rdnlng Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 http://www.teapartypatriots.org/mission.aspx Please read the link to the Tea Party mission statement and debate its merits. No need to try to confuse the issue with terms like "teabaggers" or make claims that it is racist or a bunch of fundamental whacko christians. Debate the mission statement only or be seen as the partisan hack you are.
Adam Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 A lot of them are good people that stand for what it says there. The problem is that in trying to do something good, sometimes people overextend themselves and screw up. Same with just about anything else.
Dante Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 "Core Values Fiscal Responsibility Constitutionally Limited Government Free Markets" Alarming the people in high power like Reid and others describe them as extremist. With goals like this? Gross overspending and government control are the only extremes I see going on.
3rdnlng Posted March 31, 2011 Author Posted March 31, 2011 A lot of them are good people that stand for what it says there. The problem is that in trying to do something good, sometimes people overextend themselves and screw up. Same with just about anything else. I see you have once again have taken a firm stand. Just exactly what are you saying? Are you insinuating that they have overextended themselves and screwed up? If so, how? Now, what did you think of the mission statement?
Buftex Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 (edited) http://www.teapartypatriots.org/mission.aspx Please read the link to the Tea Party mission statement and debate its merits. No need to try to confuse the issue with terms like "teabaggers" or make claims that it is racist or a bunch of fundamental whacko christians. Debate the mission statement only or be seen as the partisan hack you are. You set a great tone... Can we assume you identify with the Tea Party movement? Edited March 31, 2011 by Buftex
Adam Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 I see you have once again have taken a firm stand. Just exactly what are you saying? Are you insinuating that they have overextended themselves and screwed up? If so, how? Now, what did you think of the mission statement? The stuff in the mission statement are things that just about everyone is for. I listed to Michelle Bauckman's speech the other day, and it stunk of partisan BS and mocked President Hu from China. Ideals are great, but the people who carry out those ideals will always be flawed, because they are human.
Rob's House Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 http://www.teapartypatriots.org/mission.aspx Please read the link to the Tea Party mission statement and debate its merits. No need to try to confuse the issue with terms like "teabaggers" or make claims that it is racist or a bunch of fundamental whacko christians. Debate the mission statement only or be seen as the partisan hack you are. As a fellow tea bagger, I'm for it. I'm curious to see what the douche baggers have to say about it, though.
3rdnlng Posted March 31, 2011 Author Posted March 31, 2011 You set a great tone... Can we assume you identify with the Tea Party movement? I am 100% in favor of that mission statement. As a fellow tea bagger, I'm for it. I'm curious to see what the douche baggers have to say about it, though. That's why I posted it. Watch who refuses to post in this thread. It will be those posters that can't argue with the mission statement but are partisan hacks who won't admit that the mission statement is good. The other partisan hacks like Buffy above will try to obfuscate the issue.
Dante Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 The stuff in the mission statement are things that just about everyone is for. I listed to Michelle Bauckman's speech the other day, and it stunk of partisan BS and mocked President Hu from China. Ideals are great, but the people who carry out those ideals will always be flawed, because they are human. You think so? Because if thats true no one, at least in government and least of all democrats, act like it. And sure all people are flawed? So what? But some have good ideals(Tea Party) and some (Obama and his Ru Paul wife, democrats)have poor ones like socialism and liberalism. So the flawed human thing is a wash. I'm backing the one that has it right.
Adam Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 You think so? Because if thats true no one, at least in government and least of all democrats, act like it. And sure all people are flawed? So what? But some have good ideals(Tea Party) and some (Obama and his Ru Paul wife, democrats)have poor ones like socialism and liberalism. So the flawed human thing is a wash. I'm backing the one that has it right. Thats pretty much what I said. I have no love for the Democratic party. I also have no problem with socialism, liberalism, conservatism or any of it. They all have worked and all have failed. I think I am a bit right of center, but not by much, I have always believed you pick and choose what you like from each and use what is practical. People see what they want to see in life- the people who ripped Bush of Iraq and praising Obama over Libya and vice versa. I just observe and laugh at it all (not the tragedies, of course, just the hypocricy). They all miss the point- sure, there was a decision to be made in both cases, just none of the options were good ones. I see the people of America as wanting some sort of constitutional monarchy, where the King is not allowed to make the decisions, but is fully accountable for them.
KD in CA Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 Alarming the people in high power like Reid and others describe them as extremist. With goals like this? Gross overspending and government control are the only extremes I see going on. What is truly alarming is the ignorance and apathy of the American public. Of course Harry Reid and his ilk (which is just about everyone in Congress) are going to work with their pals in Big Media to discredit such ideas when those ideas seek to put an end to the corrupt gravy train that is American government. So they use Chuck Schumer's strategy of screaming 'extremist' at all attempts at government reform (see the recent example in WI) while distracting the public with tales about how it's all someone else's fault. And sadly, it works the vast majority of the time. Meanwhile, they line their pockets and set themselves up to get filthy rich after they leave office. Just look at the ignorance displayed on this board on a daily basis. 'Thoughtful posters' up in arms over how much GE paid in taxes but not the least bit concerned that elected officials 1) took millions from GE, 2) wrote the tax laws that benefited GE, and 3) will end up sitting on GE's Board and getting millions in stock options after they leave office.
Buftex Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 You think so? Because if thats true no one, at least in government and least of all democrats, act like it. And sure all people are flawed? So what? But some have good ideals(Tea Party) and some (Obama and his Ru Paul wife, democrats)have poor ones like socialism and liberalism. So the flawed human thing is a wash. I'm backing the one that has it right. And you wonder why the Tea Party is so easy to discredit.
Adam Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 And you wonder why the Tea Party is so easy to discredit. No easier than the democrats or republicans
Buftex Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 No easier than the democrats or republicans Exactly...so stop pretending that the Tea Party movement is somehow more noble than any other political philosophy. It is as weak as the people who adhere to it, and those who (it seems) serve as its' spokespeople.
Adam Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 Exactly...so stop pretending that the Tea Party movement is somehow more noble than any other political philosophy. It is as weak as the people who adhere to it, and those who (it seems) serve as its' spokespeople. You know- everyone is better than everyone else. There is a reason our future is so lugubrious.
Buftex Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 You know- everyone is better than everyone else. There is a reason our future is so lugubrious.
3rdnlng Posted March 31, 2011 Author Posted March 31, 2011 Exactly...so stop pretending that the Tea Party movement is somehow more noble than any other political philosophy. It is as weak as the people who adhere to it, and those who (it seems) serve as its' spokespeople. What do you think of the Tea Party's mission statement?
Rob's House Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 (edited) Exactly...so stop pretending that the Tea Party movement is somehow more noble than any other political philosophy. It is as weak as the people who adhere to it, and those who (it seems) serve as its' spokespeople. It's more noble because it keeps the political party that depends on its support in check, while the parties just try to retain power for power's sake. Edited March 31, 2011 by Rob's House
Adam Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 It's more noble because it keeps the political party that depends on its support in check, while the parties just try to retain power for power's sake. That presents both the opportunity to be noble or corrupt.
Buftex Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 It's more noble because it keeps the political party that depends on its support in check, while the parties just try to retain power for power's sake. But I guarantee you, nowhere in the Republican or Democratic mission statements does it say "we will try to retain power for power's sake". What the mission statement says isn't as important as what is actually done.
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