Dexter Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 We had/have no business in Iraq, but the U.N.? The UN is the way to apply a standard which the entire planet trusts to enforce BORDERS. The UN accepts and defines borders, and then the countries behind the UN act to enforce those borders. That way, it isn't "the US kicking Saddam out of Kuwait," it is "the US and 119 countries under a UN flag." That is BETTER FOR US. Indeed, the goodwill post Desert Storm for the US was unprecedented. However, there was still one country outside its UN defined border post Desert Storm, and that country is the source of all of the US' problems with the Middle East. A BORDER is easy to understand. It can be drawn up on a map, copied, and circulated to everyone. Everyone knows where everyone else' border is, and that helps to keep the "peace" in an effective manner. Those who hate the UN here are all about making one country above that "UN border law," because all they care about is the one country on the planet outside its UN defined border, and they are all about EXPANDING IT further with our arms and our troops...
Rob's House Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 (edited) The UN is the way to apply a standard which the entire planet trusts to enforce BORDERS. The UN accepts and defines borders, and then the countries behind the UN act to enforce those borders. That way, it isn't "the US kicking Saddam out of Kuwait," it is "the US and 119 countries under a UN flag." That is BETTER FOR US. Indeed, the goodwill post Desert Storm for the US was unprecedented. However, there was still one country outside its UN defined border post Desert Storm, and that country is the source of all of the US' problems with the Middle East. A BORDER is easy to understand. It can be drawn up on a map, copied, and circulated to everyone. Everyone knows where everyone else' border is, and that helps to keep the "peace" in an effective manner. Those who hate the UN here are all about making one country above that "UN border law," because all they care about is the one country on the planet outside its UN defined border, and they are all about EXPANDING IT further with our arms and our troops... I'm noticing a common theme to your posts. You state an opinion as though it is an absolute truth, then without supporting that statement go off on a tangent that relies upon your unsupported assertion to have any validity. I'm not sure if you're an effective troll, an ineffective debater, or just a !@#$ing douche bag. Edited March 25, 2011 by Rob's House
DC Tom Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 I'm not sure if you're an effective troll, an ineffective debater, or just a !@#$ing douche bag. Well, that's awfully stupid, shallow, and closed-minded of you. He could easily be all three.
Dexter Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 To actually engage in debate, one must be specific. You claim I don't "support" the truth I post. Yet you are unable to specify any specific example of this, likely because you can't, but rather just hate the truth I do post because it is truth that conflicts with your ideology, where America doesn't matter at all except to serve something other than America...
DC Tom Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 To actually engage in debate, one must be specific. You claim I don't "support" the truth I post. Yet you are unable to specify any specific example of this, likely because you can't, but rather just hate the truth I do post because it is truth that conflicts with your ideology, where America doesn't matter at all except to serve something other than America... But how much wood could a woodchuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
Dexter Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 As the W/pro-Israel side was 100% for keeping Mubarak in Egypt, they apparently are not happy that the UN is stopping Kadaffi from slaughtering his own people. Perhaps they really like Kadaffi, never mind Pan Am 103, must not have been any Israelis on that one... Once again, they blur UN and US. In Iraq, the UN became the US, because the "US media" wanted the US and just the US to flip off 119 Gulf War allies and invade Iraq alone as Israel wanted. Hence, Bush 41, not the UN, was accused of "not finishing the (Israeli, not our) job in Iraq" by Israelies in our "US media" who were 100% for Bill Clinton's idea to do just that. We are participating in a UN no fly issue in Libya, no different than doing it in Iraq 1992-2003... Some UN no fly missions are just a bit more "chosen" than others...
DC Tom Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 As the W/pro-Israel side was 100% for keeping Mubarak in Egypt, they apparently are not happy that the UN is stopping Kadaffi from slaughtering his own people. Perhaps they really like Kadaffi, never mind Pan Am 103, must not have been any Israelis on that one... Once again, they blur UN and US. In Iraq, the UN became the US, because the "US media" wanted the US and just the US to flip off 119 Gulf War allies and invade Iraq alone as Israel wanted. Hence, Bush 41, not the UN, was accused of "not finishing the (Israeli, not our) job in Iraq" by Israelies in our "US media" who were 100% for Bill Clinton's idea to do just that. We are participating in a UN no fly issue in Libya, no different than doing it in Iraq 1992-2003... Some UN no fly missions are just a bit more "chosen" than others... If I play this backwards, is there a hidden Satanic message in it?
....lybob Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 To me this whole thing has less to do with any Israeli lobby pressure and more with that the people in charge are totally content with violating the Constitution, International law, and any consistent moral standard. The rule of law has become a total joke and everything is dependent simply on power and whether you are favored or disfavored by that power. If this was a just world Obama would be impeached as Bush should have been before him and the U.N. Security Council's 5 permanent member feature abolished.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 If this was a just world the U.N. would be abolished. Fixed that whole post for ya.
Gene Frenkle Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 He'd better be gay too for spewing this homophobic venom. He should know the archangels of the Left haunt these parts. The Log Cabin Republicans might take issue with your generalization.
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