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When I met Steve Johnson in training camp his rookie year with his colored dreds, I thought he was a really down to earth guy. Now, the more I see of him and the jerk wad thugs that he assocates himself with, he is destined eventually for some sort of suspension after several fines. It is a shame, he has a load of talent and potential, but he isn't yet as good as he thinks he is. He needs to dip his hands in some glue so he doesn't drop as many passes (he led the AFC tied with Brandon Marshall and one or two others), but his head is getting so big, they might not be able to find a helmet big enough for him. He had one exceptionally great game against the Bengals and his head got so big doing talk shows, interviews, etc., that he forgot how to catch the ball the following week against the Steelers which costs his teammates and the fans a victory. As far as that video, you would have to be at least a few weeks past your own funeral to be able to sit through the whole thing.

According to the video, it's his cousin that's doing the rapping. So, he appears in a video with family and that makes him a gangster or something? And as far as rap video's go, that was pretty clean. No drugs or alcohol seen in the video. And they were in a parking lot or something, not in a night club or at a party. Plus SJ was only in a few shots, so probably didn't even put much time into the making of it.

 

And as far as the drop, it was probably the best thing that could have happened to the Bills. They would have dropped several draft picks if not for the drop. Plus, maybe SJ's head was getting a little too big. A drop like that would humble anyone, so we'll see how he bounces back next season. And big big props for leading with the drop, most players would probably never want to see that again.

 

All I am saying is, let's just give the kid the benefit of the doubt here before we make character judgements.

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While the subject matter is pretty much repetitive, there's no way that the rhythm has stayed the same. If you don't notice that, then you're probably just tone deaf. Or you're just super old.

 

Super old.

 

That's the way you hear it, but you obviously don't listen to a lot of it. That's ok, but the best producers are doing all sorts of amazing and creative programming to create swing and polyrhythms. As has been the case with all black music, that rhythmic complexity is an undervalued asset in white musical culture. That's why it takes an Elvis to show most white people what the greats were already doing.

 

Now I'm not going to call Stevie's work here great, but to dismiss rap music due to taste is one (completely valid) thing. To dismiss its musicality without really critically listening is another, less valid enterprise.

 

My big problem with rap, btw, is the incessant demeaning of women and thematically crass and commercialist lyrics (in mainstream hip hop), and the public's taste for that brand of hip hop. Come up with something new there... There are plenty of underground artists doing just that.

 

Anyway, go stevie and go Bills!

 

Correct - I don't listen to a lot of it. You can't help but hear it if you are alive, but I'm not going out of my way to listen to something I can't stand.

 

It's been 30 years, and I still haven't seen the greatness that you speak of. I was just listening to Wade in the Water by the Ramsey Lewis Trio. It's so awesome, just like most black music was until this genre took over.

 

And, the lyrics that you brought up - that really puts in over the top. My secretary has a rap song on her ringtone all the time - a different one all time........So, it was ringing for a couple of minutes a few weeks ago, and I'm like are they saying what I think they're saying........So, I shazamed it - and the song is Wet by Snoop Dogg. How she can have a ringtone like that while having small kids is beyond me.

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I see absolutely nothing wrong with this at all...In fact I thought it would turn me off but ya know what its just stevie his cousin and his boys havin a good time...I think stevie is a good guy and a good family man and i think he really has a passion for the game and for the buffalo bills which is all that i care about...there was blatant promotion of the bills which was great to see...

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I see absolutely nothing wrong with this at all...In fact I thought it would turn me off but ya know what its just stevie his cousin and his boys havin a good time...I think stevie is a good guy and a good family man and i think he really has a passion for the game and for the buffalo bills which is all that i care about...there was blatant promotion of the bills which was great to see...

 

I agree with all that.

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According to the video, it's his cousin that's doing the rapping. So, he appears in a video with family and that makes him a gangster or something? And as far as rap video's go, that was pretty clean. No drugs or alcohol seen in the video. And they were in a parking lot or something, not in a night club or at a party. Plus SJ was only in a few shots, so probably didn't even put much time into the making of it.

 

And as far as the drop, it was probably the best thing that could have happened to the Bills. They would have dropped several draft picks if not for the drop. Plus, maybe SJ's head was getting a little too big. A drop like that would humble anyone, so we'll see how he bounces back next season. And big big props for leading with the drop, most players would probably never want to see that again.

 

All I am saying is, let's just give the kid the benefit of the doubt here before we make character judgements.

That theory is pretty moronic, in that dropping a game winning catch when the team is on some sort of a winning streak after starting 0-8, is a good thing? That catch would have kept building on the momentum and confidence this young team has, and after that drop (easily the worst drop in the NFL this past season), pretty much all of the momentum they were building disappeared. So if that is the best thing, then I guess when he caught those touchdowns and they came back against the Bengals-that was the worst thing that happened to them. Or was it beating the Lions, or the Dolphins? I guess the missed field goal against the Chiefs and the overtime fumble against the Ravens would have to be right up there in your season highlights too? At any level from Pee Wees to the NFL, dropping a game winning touchdown can never be a good thing, no matter what. I can say one thing I like about your post though-your avatar is pretty smoking.

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I'm pretty happy about the drop right now. I was also happy as a 6 year old when Ed Rutkowski fumbled on the one, so that we could draft OJ. Would you rather have had OJ or some meaningless late season win?

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I'm pretty happy about the drop right now. I was also happy as a 6 year old when Ed Rutkowski fumbled on the one, so that we could draft OJ. Would you rather have had OJ or some meaningless late season win?

With the way this franchise has drafted for the past dozen seasons, that late season win is looking pretty good right about now. So we could have beaten the team that represented the AFC in the Super Bowl in overtime or had another Aaron Maybin? All depends on how you look at it I guess.

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Wow, I'm embarrassed for anyone that had any part in that video, including SJ. I think people are hyping him up a little too much. The guy had a decent season, mainly because the Bills were always playing behind and Lee Evans drew most of the coverage. He's good at finding open spaces on the field, but has sub-average hands at best.

 

Having said all that, I like the guy. He has a good attitude and doesn't take it too far when joking around. Even in that horrible video, he mentioned it wasn't all about him, but his teammates. He does seem to like being a Bill, it's hard to find players you can say that about...

 

I'm pretty happy about the drop right now. I was also happy as a 6 year old when Ed Rutkowski fumbled on the one, so that we could draft OJ. Would you rather have had OJ or some meaningless late season win?

 

You make a good point, I cared less about winning that game. At the time I was thinking about the possibility of Luck. Although his hands are scary bad. It seems like he can find ways to get open, then drops half of the passes.

 

As far as OJ goes, the dude killed people and proved to be utterly retarded. Honestly I don't care, the man was a beast on the field, and played in the naked gun movies.

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That theory is pretty moronic, in that dropping a game winning catch when the team is on some sort of a winning streak after starting 0-8, is a good thing? That catch would have kept building on the momentum and confidence this young team has, and after that drop (easily the worst drop in the NFL this past season), pretty much all of the momentum they were building disappeared. So if that is the best thing, then I guess when he caught those touchdowns and they came back against the Bengals-that was the worst thing that happened to them. Or was it beating the Lions, or the Dolphins? I guess the missed field goal against the Chiefs and the overtime fumble against the Ravens would have to be right up there in your season highlights too? At any level from Pee Wees to the NFL, dropping a game winning touchdown can never be a good thing, no matter what. I can say one thing I like about your post though-your avatar is pretty smoking.

Well it's my point of view, moronic or not. I was torn when he dropped it, but getting the #3 is better than having another win. I was just glad I sold my tickets for twice value for that game, had I been there, I would have been pissed. And yes the missed FG was big as well. When you start 0-8, the best you can hope for is a high draft pick, not momentum going into next season, that's moronic...

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I really hope that this was in jest and somewhat of a joke. I think it was but you never know. I also hope that this kid doesn't get too big of a head he had one very good season on a 4-12 team (Yeah the team wasn't 4-12 because of him but still keep it in perspective). I hope he has the hunger to help take this team over the top.

 

All in all I love the hug life shirt and I love Stevie Johnson.

As a matter of fact, we were 4-12 because of him. I can think of one catch that he could've made which would have added a win.

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Well it's my point of view, moronic or not. I was torn when he dropped it, but getting the #3 is better than having another win. I was just glad I sold my tickets for twice value for that game, had I been there, I would have been pissed. And yes the missed FG was big as well. When you start 0-8, the best you can hope for is a high draft pick, not momentum going into next season, that's moronic...

 

Another moron here. I was there and I was pissed - for about 5 minutes. Then, after it was all over, I figured it's for the best and it is.........And, it was a really fun game.

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