Bob in STL Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 It can't get any worse...right? Well, I suppose this is one way to generate excitement for a perenially last-place team. Not that I'm against it... That is what I thought when the Sabres went back to blue and gold ... and we got the SLUG.
buffaloaggie Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 see, i always figured it was the players in the uniform, not the uniforms themselves. call me ol' fashioned. jw Obviously it is the players, but if you can generate enthusiasm in your team through a uniform change, then why not do it. For Ralph, it's more money in merchandise sales. Chalk one up for the marketing group. It worked for the Sabres.
NickelCity Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 see, i always figured it was the players in the uniform, not the uniforms themselves. call me ol' fashioned. jw I think it goes without saying that any Bills fan would undoubtedly prefer a better Bills football team than a new uniform. However, as they're not mutually exclusive, changing from our current/awful uniforms is reason to be excited/interested in my book.
Delete This Account Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 Obviously it is the players, but if you can generate enthusiasm in your team through a uniform change, then why not do it. For Ralph, it's more money in merchandise sales. Chalk one up for the marketing group. It worked for the Sabres. really, Sabres? everyone hated the flying slug logo, and yet everyone in town was wearing the jerseys, t-shirts, hats, socks whatever because the team was actually -- how do you call it? -- winning, by getting to the Eastern Conference finals twice. i thought winning generated enthusiasm. jw
CosmicBills Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 (edited) really, Sabres? everyone hated the flying slug logo, and yet everyone in town was wearing the jerseys, t-shirts, hats, socks whatever because the team was actually -- how do you call it? -- winning, by getting to the Eastern Conference finals twice. i thought winning generated enthusiasm. jw Winning trumps all. But when the team is in as poor of shape as this franchise is (and let's be honest, this is a bad football team), anything to get the fans excited is viewed as a plus. Would I rather have an influx of talent (on the field and in the front office) over jerseys? Absolutely. But I'll take what I can get right now. Edited February 9, 2011 by tgreg99
NickelCity Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 i thought winning generated enthusiasm. jw It certainly does, and I don't think anyone is disagreeing with that. Again, as on the field production and new uniforms aren't mutually exclusive, why isn't changing to a new (hopefully more classic) uniform reason for excitement?
Peter Posted February 9, 2011 Author Posted February 9, 2011 It certanly is in terms of performance. Nevertheless, there is no reason why the uniforms cannot look good at the same time. We had great uniforms, and the Bills blundered by switching to the ones they have had since 2002. It just so happens that the Bills have been bad for as long as they have worn the unis they are finally getting rid of. see, i always figured it was the players in the uniform, not the uniforms themselves. call me ol' fashioned. jw
Delete This Account Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 Winning trumps all. But when the team is in as poor of shape as this franchise is (and let's be honest, this is a bad football team), anything to get the fans excited is viewed as a plus. i'm not trying to be difficult here, though it might seem that way. but i hadn't realized the deep rut of futility in which the bills have sunk over the 11 years and counting can so quickly be overcome by ... a uniform change. i mean, i can see people buying into the hope of the Bills signing T.O. or drafting C.J. Spiller, or cutting Trent Edwards or firing Dick Jauron. that's actual change, though even in those cases it didn't change much in the end. what escapes me is how a team going from a dark blue to a lighter blue, or adding a stripe or patch is actually considered a valuable plus. if they wore pink and won the Super Bowl, would that be acceptable? just wondering. ... jw
Realist Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 i'm not trying to be difficult here, though it might seem that way. but i hadn't realized the deep rut of futility in which the bills have sunk over the 11 years and counting can so quickly be overcome by ... a uniform change. i mean, i can see people buying into the hope of the Bills signing T.O. or drafting C.J. Spiller, or cutting Trent Edwards or firing Dick Jauron. that's actual change, though even in those cases it didn't change much in the end. what escapes me is how a team going from a dark blue to a lighter blue, or adding a stripe or patch is actually considered a valuable plus. if they wore pink and won the Super Bowl, would that be acceptable? just wondering. ... jw Obviously winning is the most important thing, but why not win and have good uniforms? Its not like an either/or thing. It's not "we either put out a good football team or we get better looking uniforms". Why couldn't we be excited about both? I don't know one person that liked those unis when they came out in '02, so this is a good change.
nucci Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 see, i always figured it was the players in the uniform, not the uniforms themselves. call me ol' fashioned. jw Why can't we have both? Why do some get upset because some are excited about new uniforms? Of course I want a better team but why can't they look good too?
CosmicBills Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 i'm not trying to be difficult here, though it might seem that way. but i hadn't realized the deep rut of futility in which the bills have sunk over the 11 years and counting can so quickly be overcome by ... a uniform change. i mean, i can see people buying into the hope of the Bills signing T.O. or drafting C.J. Spiller, or cutting Trent Edwards or firing Dick Jauron. that's actual change, though even in those cases it didn't change much in the end. what escapes me is how a team going from a dark blue to a lighter blue, or adding a stripe or patch is actually considered a valuable plus. if they wore pink and won the Super Bowl, would that be acceptable? just wondering. ... jw No, you're 100% right. It's not a substitute for real, quantitative change within the organization. Or the actual product that takes the field on Sundays. But it's something to talk about, debate, discuss until the draft.
NickelCity Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 if they wore pink and won the Super Bowl, would that be acceptable? just wondering. ... jw I don't care what they're wearing if they win the Super Bowl. Given the choice, I'd prefer a classic Bills uniform in this hypothetical scenario in which where the Bills win the Super Bowl. Not given this choice, I'd still die a happy man as the Bills, in electric pink duds, will have won the Super Bowl. I fail to see how being excited that our beloved Bills are changing uniforms from the current ones that are disliked almost unanimously is not understandable.
Heitz Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 Just got off a flight to this great news. I'm hoping for the white helmet w charging buffalo look - 90's red, white and blue with that helmet... Finally, an excuse to buy more new Bills gear!
cwater10 Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 i'm not trying to be difficult here, though it might seem that way. but i hadn't realized the deep rut of futility in which the bills have sunk over the 11 years and counting can so quickly be overcome by ... a uniform change. i mean, i can see people buying into the hope of the Bills signing T.O. or drafting C.J. Spiller, or cutting Trent Edwards or firing Dick Jauron. that's actual change, though even in those cases it didn't change much in the end. what escapes me is how a team going from a dark blue to a lighter blue, or adding a stripe or patch is actually considered a valuable plus. jw You are missing the point jw... Do you remember the movie, Major League? Do you remember when Charlie Sheen's character changed his look and lost his effectiveness? Do you remember the fans in the movie going nuts when "Wild Thing" came out of the bull pen rocking the look from the days when he was dominant? They sensed the return of good days. We are those fans... and we are ecstatic over anything that even hints at recapturing a bit of those glory days. That... and the reality that the current uniforms are horrific. It is difficult to root for a team that looks like a troup of clowns... Apparently, we won't have to any longer.
Captain Hindsight Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 i'm not trying to be difficult here, though it might seem that way. but i hadn't realized the deep rut of futility in which the bills have sunk over the 11 years and counting can so quickly be overcome by ... a uniform change. i mean, i can see people buying into the hope of the Bills signing T.O. or drafting C.J. Spiller, or cutting Trent Edwards or firing Dick Jauron. that's actual change, though even in those cases it didn't change much in the end. what escapes me is how a team going from a dark blue to a lighter blue, or adding a stripe or patch is actually considered a valuable plus. if they wore pink and won the Super Bowl, would that be acceptable? just wondering. ... jw No it doesnt matter what they wear your right. But how many threads a week have we seen that the current unis suck? The FO is listening and is trying to improve their product. They hired some football people in Gailey, Nix and Whaley last year and this year we are going to change our look. I dont see it as a bad thing at all and its something to get excited about. Maybe they will play inspired to open the season against the Pats* and blow them out of the water and brake Brady's pinky toe and have him out for the year. If that happens i will thank the uniforms
bills1960 Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 Just thinking, the appreciation event has to be before the draft right?
NickelCity Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 I would have to imagine it should be before the draft. Per Fred Jackson the date has been set but he doesn't know if he is authorized to release it.
karl malones other son Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 see, i always figured it was the players in the uniform, not the uniforms themselves. call me ol' fashioned. jw yeah, youre better than us who care about uniform changes.
bills1960 Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 I would have to imagine it should be before the draft. Per Fred Jackson the date has been set but he doesn't know if he is authorized to release it. Ok. And where do you think it would be? The field house?
karl malones other son Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 Just thinking, the appreciation event has to be before the draft right? trying to remember when they announced the throwbacks at a similar event. jp losman jumping around….i want to say it was at SJF training camp.
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